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Originally posted by osc121
This is a video from 3 months ago of Mr Choudary calling for sharia in britain and that he would not stop until Britain is a muslim country.
now in my mind, to call for the abolition of the monarchy and the legally appointed democratic government is surely treason. Any takers on the legal position?
The Treason Act 1351 has since been amended several times, and currently provides for four categories of treasonable offences, namely:
* "when a man doth compass or imagine the death of our lord the King, or of our lady his Queen or of their eldest son and heir";
* "if a man do violate the King’s companion, or the King’s eldest daughter unmarried, or the wife of the King’s eldest son and heir";
* "if a man do levy war against our lord the King in his realm, or be adherent to the King’s enemies in his realm, giving to them aid and comfort in the realm, or elsewhere"; and
* "if a man slea the chancellor, treasurer, or the King’s justices of the one bench or the other, justices in eyre, or justices of assise, and all other justices assigned to hear and determine, being in their places, doing their offices".
Another Act, the Treason Act 1702 (1 Anne stat. 2 c. 21), provides for a fifth category of treason, namely:
* "if any person or persons ... shall endeavour to deprive or hinder any person who shall be the next in succession to the crown ... from succeeding after the decease of her Majesty (whom God long preserve) to the imperial crown of this realm and the dominions and territories thereunto belonging".
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Originally posted by Selahobed
reply to post by stumason
TreASON, YOU ARE RIGHT... But are you as an englishman going to enforce that as the pussies most of you have become or are you going to mann up??? I doubt it... it will probably make you guys ashamed by us... Coz you guys are lazy and good for nothing but crap.... Prove us wrong... But you wont.... Coz REAL men ony exist in our imaginations.... REAL women are waiting for you but wont hold our breath coz you are cowards to the core.....
Man up England.. or do you owe your manhoods cheap???? Your fathers were beter than you... Prove them wrong.....
[edit on 063131p://f04Tuesday by Selahobed]
Originally posted by woodwardjnr
Originally posted by TSOM87
I wonder what George Galloways views are on this?
These people should take this protest to Westminister. If the EDL turned up to some street to protest against Radical Muslims the BBC would be all over it.
as a listener to George Galloway, he said on saturday night that he believes this will bring nothing but more hatred on the muslim community and he dispises Choudry. I imgine you don't like Galloway, I happen to believe he is one of our finest MP's.
Originally posted by stumason
reply to post by Selahobed
I think (especially after you thread about "real men") you know I won't take this lying down.
Fortunately, my Uncle is a Wing Commander in the RAF and lives in WB, so I have a base of operations. I fully intend to go and face down this planned march, come what may....
Originally posted by smartie
I and some of my friends will be there too if it actually gets the go-ahead... it MUST be stopped at all costs. I fully intend to disrupt it as much as possible by whatever means.
Damn right! I have always maintained I would lay down life, body and soul to defend this country and those I love. There is no way in hell that I would sit back and allow these cretins free reign to spread their hate or, god forbid, try to Islamise the UK...
I and some of my friends will be there too if it actually gets the go-ahead... it MUST be stopped at all costs. I fully intend to disrupt it as much as possible by whatever means
check out this facebook site, 560,000 members and growing, I'm sure there are lots of like minded people amongst that lot. That is an awful lot of people if they all decided to protest on the same day....
5 Harassment, alarm or distress
(1) A person is guilty of an offence if he—
(a) uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or
(b) displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting,
within the hearing or sight of a person likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress thereby.
(2) An offence under this section may be committed in a public or a private place, except that no offence is committed where the words or behaviour are used, or the writing, sign or other visible representation is displayed, by a person inside a dwelling and the other person is also inside that or another dwelling.
(3) It is a defence for the accused to prove—
(a) that he had no reason to believe that there was any person within hearing or sight who was likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress, or
(b) that he was inside a dwelling and had no reason to believe that the words or behaviour used, or the writing, sign or other visible representation displayed, would be heard or seen by a person outside that or any other dwelling, or
(c) that his conduct was reasonable.
(4) A constable may arrest a person without warrant if—
(a) he engages in offensive conduct which [a] constable warns him to stop, and
(b) he engages in further offensive conduct immediately or shortly after the warning.
(5) In subsection (4) “offensive conduct” means conduct the constable reasonably suspects to constitute an offence under this section, and the conduct mentioned in paragraph (a) and the further conduct need not be of the same nature.
(6) A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale.
6 Mental element: miscellaneous
(1) A person is guilty of riot only if he intends to use violence or is aware that his conduct may be violent.
(2) A person is guilty of violent disorder or affray only if he intends to use or threaten violence or is aware that his conduct may be violent or threaten violence.
(3) A person is guilty of an offence under section 4 only if he intends his words or behaviour, or the writing, sign or other visible representation, to be threatening, abusive or insulting, or is aware that it may be threatening, abusive or insulting. (Bold text by me for highlighting)
(4) A person is guilty of an offence under section 5 only if he intends his words or behaviour, or the writing, sign or other visible representation, to be threatening, abusive or insulting, or is aware that it may be threatening, abusive or insulting or (as the case may be) he intends his behaviour to be or is aware that it may be disorderly.
Originally posted by Freeborn
reply to post by stumason
You will not be alone my friend, I assure you.
If the time comes, what needs to be done will be done!