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Ireland Bans Blasphemy

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posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 06:44 PM
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deported from northern Ireland as part of the British


Read what it is you said..

And if you have a problem reading what im saying then that is not my fault now is it?

you know like color and colour ?

yet the funny part is when americans and others bother to learn it they say "its ours"

when in fact its MINE.. its THE ENGLISH who created it not the AMERICANS.. we created the AMERICANS

its not called ENGLISH for NOTHING matey.. it came from HERE you know that place on the map called ENGLAND???

Jeez...

British = ENGLISH we govent BOTH scottland AND whales AND northen IRLAND and the QUEEN is the HEAD OF SATE OF 27 other nations INCLUDING austrialia AND canada..

dont like it? To bad.




posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 06:52 PM
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under the behest of the queen of england that is made LAW here in england..

That is why the QUEEN as i did state IS the head of state IN the AUS...

its a fact.. mate and she does not MAKE any laws in AUS just she dont here but she does HAVE the power

and that is a fact..

who wants civil war? i dont. and i dont think the queen does so be for you go round calling people muppets i suggest you ask someone who knows the LAW in ENGLAND first..

:@) cheeky chappy



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 07:29 PM
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posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 07:34 PM
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Originally posted by ignorant_ape
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please look up the correct definition of ` a majority `

all you have " prooved " is that roman catholicism is the largest single sect in NI - a fact i never disputed

it is NOT however ` most ` , or a majority

if you could actually understand your own statistics - you would SHOULD have figured that out for yourself

however you chose to pick a fight , better luck next time


Oh right - yeah gee whiz and bang ! What the HELL are you talking about ? Have you gone completely bonkers ?

The stats clearly state the the largest, as in the MOST, as in the MAJORITY (one can have a majority with %10 you idiot) - how on EARTH can you consider this to be any other way ?

Please do not confront me with absolutes when you have no idea what you are talking about - way to make a fool of yourself buddy.

The Majority between two parties 51% - however between three parties it is 31% - get it...wow.


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posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by count66
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I tell you what - can you prove my statement wrong without the insults?

Probably not - but the truth hurts - that statement I took straight from the UK Commonwealth laws - your constitution exists at the behest of the UK government and therefore is a colonial document and not a real constitution! - in other words common law!


Please which part of COLONIES escapes you ? Victoria, NSW, Tasmania, were COLONIES numb skull - these colonies went through a process called FEDERATION which disbanded the COLONIES - a created the FEDERATION of AUSTRALIA which is what we are today - we are looking to become a REPUBLIC which will remove the Queen from Head of STATE - abslutely mind numbingly regressive intellect on here today - incredible levels of stupidity.

There is no point in simply making up stupid, stupid theories and then trying vainly to back them up with even more moronic theories - the facts are the facts - attempting to portray Australia as an ongoing colonial situation is simply the height of profound unquestionable stupidity - nothing else can be said about it - it is pure drivel and should be called out for what it is without exception or deference to civility - it is utter garbage.

IN fact - I can not believe that the arguments being presented here, in favor of this backwards Irish legislation is that Australia is a colony - the relevance completely escapes me despite the fact it wrong - let alone stupid.



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posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 07:43 PM
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sigh - catholics consitute a plurality , not a majority . its quite simple

as is the fact that the first person i replied to claimed that ` most of northern ierland was catholic ` - your statts demonstrated he was wrong

and no 10% cannot consitute a majority - you are confusing a true majority with electoral issues wherin only a fraction of the polulation actually votes



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 07:54 PM
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ALL RELIGIONS ARE POLITICAL CULTS



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 07:56 PM
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Originally posted by ignorant_ape
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sigh - catholics consitute a plurality , not a majority . its quite simple

as is the fact that the first person i replied to claimed that ` most of northern ierland was catholic ` - your statts demonstrated he was wrong

and no 10% cannot consitute a majority - you are confusing a true majority with electoral issues wherin only a fraction of the polulation actually votes


Don't sigh me when you are blatantly WRONG - it is NOT an electoral position at all - it is fundamental logic - it is you who is confusing the ABSOLUTE MAJORITY. The PLURALITY you are referring to is a uniquely American bastardization of the English language brought about through sheer ignorance - along with all the other bastardizations th American love throwing around. It comes from the uniquely American view of democracy NOT being democratic if there is less than 51% approval as it considers 40% are living under a dictatorship - it comes from the American obsession with individuality trumping the collective will - hence the zealous hatred of anything socially beneficial -

Further even if we were going to take the erroneous American version which is rejected by the rest of the planet - then you are taking a semantic approach of galactic stupidity - the poster was clearing defining the dominant- bulk - largest section - greatest interest as his intentions - further if you were to indicating the plurality of the situation was your original disputation with the comment why not state that as it is such an insignificant nuance designed only as irrelevant semantic posturing - let me guess you were busy looking it up to back up your ridiculous assertions......how obvious you are.



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 08:25 PM
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sigh , it is not mere semantics - he claimied that most of northern ierland was catholic

i , and i expect most other reasonable people expect that to mean a level > 50.00 %

that is why i challenged the origional statement

as you are clearly unreasonable , there is little point continueing



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 08:30 PM
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a created the FEDERATION of AUSTRALIA which is what we are today - we are looking to become a REPUBLIC which will remove the Queen from Head of STATE


get a grip..you said it not me chap



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 08:36 PM
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So does this mean standup comedians can no longer have a go at the catholic church? I have seen catholic comedians having a go at their own religion. Although i see this law covers all religions but i wonder if it will be applied so readily to Islam.

It doesn't matter though because this is a trampling of free speech and i believe it is only the start. Here in the UK i can see laws coming into being to ban speech about islam, after that you won't be able to criticse or make a joke about Christians, nor creationism. Then finally all speech against religion or even just light hearted jokes will be gone.

I don't see why religion should be given a free pass or special treatment, an exemption from being criticised just because some people get worked up over it.

One of my favorite sayings "Either everything is up for debate and open to ridicule or nothing is"

[edit on 1-1-2010 by ImaginaryReality1984]



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 08:38 PM
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well in fact the majortiy of people who live in northen ireland are in fact prosidents...

The fact they fight has nothing to do with the english but the laws on what the law of the land govens..

I come from liverpool and we have more "irish" peopple here than most places as we are the closest port other than scotland.. FACT

and just so adus knows NI is not a conlely.. its BRITISH teritory and has now a devolved parliemet that GOVENS its self and the QUEEn is still the head of state just like AUS

untill you get rid of the queen you will ALWAYS be subject to ONE RULE

you will go to war when the english do FACT

as its a part of the COMMENWEALTH weather you like it or NOT..



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 08:40 PM
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in fact the vast a majority were Irish - deported from northern Ireland as part of the British pogrom to dilute the northern Irish with English and protestant blood


It was Scotish Crofters (Protestant) and loyal to the crown that were sent to Ulster and not the English due to this province being the hotbed of Irish rebellion against English rule while at the same time depopulating the area by sending your ancestors "down under".

Read about the history of Ireland, everything from 1200 AD - 2000 AD. If you are truly of Irish origin you would at least learn what was done to Ireland and it's people.

And before you start on personal attacks of which we have all seen you are pretty adept at, (but it's getting old - I hope my spelling and grammar is up to your elevated standards), I am English born but was raised in Ireland and have read both sides of this part of history.

This site is all about denying ignorance but you are showing a complete disregard of this.

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posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 08:41 PM
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POLITE MOD REQUEST

Hi People,

Can we please hold off on the personal attacks, on the name-calling, the snidey side-jabs and general personalised tit-for-tat embedded within some of these replies??

By all means discuss and debate with passion - but never with poison.


Cheers.


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posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 08:43 PM
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Thats funny really because I AM ENGLISH yet you harp on like the ENGLISH are some how retarded??

and you dont bash it as much as some americans? you just said you want to be a republic?

go for it..

but remember who in fact gave you that speach impediment you call english mayte

and in relation to the topic its pathetic about the law as i pointed out they have just unbanned MONTY PYTHON

it was banned ever since it was MADE they only just unbanned it..... they banned it because it took the micky out of GOD of all things

thats why ENGLISH people do not want to be TOLD what to do about GOD..

Thats why PROSIDENTS IN NI want to STAY under britsh rule because WE in england HAVE NO CRACK POT LAWS like "you cant say OH GOD EFF U" ect and get ABORTIONS

.. you do know people from irland use to come here to get one because it was AGAINST the law in IRELAND right? ..

this is more complex than just some person ranting about austriala..

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posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 08:47 PM
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I didnt name call a against anyone!!!

Just so you know
very true tho

i was called a muppet.. LOL!!



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 08:49 PM
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Originally posted by audas
Hello 1423 - gotta love progress.

Morons - every cliche about the Irish came true with that one headline - a great, well loved people are once again the laughing stock of the earth - stupid irish.


Have some respect. This kind of disrespect is basically racism. Anybody who can call the Irish or any other race or nation morons is most definitely a moron him or herself.

I am Irish and I can tell you that I am not stupid or moronic. I had no part to play in bringing about the blasphemy law. We may have a stupid government (like many countries do) but we are not a nation of morons.



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 08:58 PM
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Er, where are the mods on this thread? Sitting back eating popcorn watching all this petty bickering?

As an Irish citizen, I would like to say that this law is foolish and embarrassing. Unfortunately we have a Constitution that is overtly Catholic and does have a blasphemy law. However, I construed from the Irish Times article that it could not be brought to conviction as there was previously no definition of blasphemy - now there is, so religious groups will be able to harass journalists, artists etc. through the Irish court system. It is surely a sad day.

TBH I am surprised that this thread does not have pretty much everyone in agreement that this is a foolish law, and a constitutional referendum to get rid of the original (and apparently ineffectual) nonsense altogether would have been the better route. Sadly it seems to have derailed into 8 pages of nationalist posturing.



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 09:08 PM
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As an Irish citizen, I would like to say that this law is foolish and embarrassing. Unfortunately we have a Constitution that is overtly Catholic


Thank you my good man


its as basic as that..




posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 09:09 PM
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Originally posted by 13579
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deported from northern Ireland as part of the British


Read what it is you said..

And if you have a problem reading what im saying then that is not my fault now is it?

you know like color and colour ?

yet the funny part is when americans and others bother to learn it they say "its ours"

when in fact its MINE.. its THE ENGLISH who created it not the AMERICANS.. we created the AMERICANS

its not called ENGLISH for NOTHING matey.. it came from HERE you know that place on the map called ENGLAND???

Jeez...

British = ENGLISH we govent BOTH scottland AND whales AND northen IRLAND and the QUEEN is the HEAD OF SATE OF 27 other nations INCLUDING austrialia AND canada..

dont like it? To bad.


English is your language yes? And I take it you're from the UK yes? How come you can't spell the names of three UK countries? I'm Irish and due to the 800 years of opressive rule the British empire laid down upon Ireland, I have been gifted with better spelling than an Englishman!

I truly hope Australia one day manages to wipe that Union Jack from her flag.



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