reply to post by On the Edge
I have learned the hard way as well, with many things...and still learning. A part of the path for discernment, for me, is something in the
gospels....know what is of flesh is of flesh, know what is of spirit is of spirit.
I believe that the gospels give a description of what love is....something like love is not boastful, not prideful, not greedy, not jealous, and there
were some others, its late and just going on memory here. I dont believe that God, who is only good, who knows our hearts and thoughts, would be
jealous, prideful, nor boastful. I dont believe the Perfect One that Jesus taught of is the same nature of some of the claims in in the OT. Through
many studies, I dont believe Jesus was a sacrifice that had to be made required by God, but man who was mislead in thinking a final sacrifice was
needed. I have many thoughts on the different natures through out the Bible and Jesus was defiantly living for the Spirit, not the life of
flesh....this is what kept him righteous, even when they wanted him killed, he offered his life of flesh, knowing it was only righteous, it was only
perfect, in the Spirit.
Through experiences as well, throughout my family. That is a whole other long story
I could go on and on how I have found much truth through scriptures, and make quotes, but I have studied many other text that arent in the Bible, I
could go on and on about the things I have learned through just living, learning about the Universe, humans, Gods cycles and patterns throughout all
The nature of God, from experiences, is unconditional love for all life. What is of flesh, returns to Earth, what is of God, returns to God. One way
or the other.
I think Jesus got tied to a religion that he taught against to a degree. The discerning from carnal natures of man and the Spiritual nature of God, I
discern, what is a truth about God, that is written by men. I dont believe the Perfect Most High, who is only good, is the one that demanded
sacrifices, ever. I believe through the experiences, my journey involves telling others of this shortcoming of man, trying to take what is of flesh
into heaven. Our thoughts matter, very much so. God knows our intentions, Jesus showed us how to live more for Spirit, that the kingdom was within.
I still use the Bible very much in my studies, but I discern any and all writings. I look for the nature, of man...and of Spirit, what is
perfect...for this is what I felt I was shown and guided to do.
If God was wrathful, jealous, prideful, fast to anger, then why would humans be expected to work on these things and try to become 'perfect' ....I
think truth is right there in that book...for those that are truly seeing it through eyes of understanding. Man has mixed his own carnal natures into
the image of what God is, which has caused much misunderstanding of God. I feel Jesus felt that sadness, for they didnt recognize a righteous nature
when it stood before them. Then of course we have Rome, with their political agenda in all of this...tie the OT and this Jesus together, throw in our
Greek/pagan twist a bit, trying to satisfy the masses and at the same time gain control and power.
I take many things into consideration, I think I already said, I could go on and on.....
What is of flesh is of flesh, what is of spirit is of spirit, live for the life of spirit, offer the life of flesh back to the Earth.
Im talking my head off...sorry...Im sleepy and seem to do that...ramble on.
Peace to you