Most new agers worship "energies" and I've heard some say "peace and light". Also, a lot of new age philosophy focuses on become enlightened to
the point of becoming God. But I don't think they are any worse than 99% of the rest of the idiots in the world.
"New-Agers",Freemasons:Please Read This, page 1
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Topic started on 31-12-2009 @ 05:31 PM by On the Edge
With respect to the amount of "New-Agers" here on this forum,I have to wonder if they have done their research into the coming "Age of Aquarius".
I wonder if you are willing to contemplate that the "enlightenment" you claim to be seeking is really darkness.
This article I am referring to is a good starting point,and I urge you to please take a couple minutes of your time to read it. If you disagree with what it says,I'd like you to give testimony as to why you believe otherwise.
From www.rense.com...
QUOTE:
"Lucifer Rising"
..."a condensed summary of evidence which will show that as it says in the Bible verse above, Lucifer is amongst us, and the mayhem and chaos we are now experiencing on an international scale in this the first decade of the 21st century, is due to the culmination of many millenia of plotting and planning by the eternal adversary as mentioned in the Holy Scriptures.
..."through each of the many interconnecting aspects of what the New Age terms `The Plan` and what Freemasonry calls `The Great Work Of Ages`. Call it what you will, by `essay's end` , it should become obvious that what we are dealing with is Lucifer's rebellion against God.
..."It should be apparent to the reader that a `nexus` has been formed, connecting the major players in the push towards the One World Dictatorship, with the United Nations, The New Age Movement, and the `Greens` all interlocking at the top, with the `hidden hand` of the Illuminati pulling the strings in the background as the driving force moving us all inexorably towards the New World Order.
..."As G. K. Chesterton once observed, "If man will not believe in God, the danger is not that he will believe in nothing, but that he will believe in anything."
..."The New Age and the One World Government conspiracy are intrinsic and inseparable.. Although all the various sects and cults which make up `Pantheism` may appear diverse and separate, all the basic elements are the same for the various gnostic hierarchical religions, they just have a different focus. They operate off the same principles and cooperate and function together.
..."Freemasonry is truly the worship of Lucifer. Once this is understood, it becomes clear as to why they have been so anxious all these centuries to keep the lid of secrecy tightly screwed down, for if people really understood that Masonry is a worship of Lucifer, no one would join, and the citizens of most communities would rise up as one to demand that the organization be completely outlawed."...
So,while many of you may be against the NWO,by following the New Age religions,you are indeed playing right into their hands!
The article I am hoping you will read should just be a launching pad to gaining further understanding of the roots of the New-Age movement. At some point,I believe we will be called to account for our beliefs,so one should do all they can to be able to say they were not deceived.
As you may recall from previous posts,I call myself a Christian,and a "fundamentalist" at that. I am confident that my faith is right for me,though many of you will call me deceived. (I'm not offended if you call me "delusional",or something like it!)
What I really wonder is if those who claim to be seeking "love and light" can be convinced that it is Lucifer,(Satan),that you are following,and that that is a bad thing!
I ask because someone I love dearly holds these same "new-age" beliefs,and I know how stubborn she is to maintain her philosophies. At this point,she wants nothing to do with this type of discussions.
Are there any of you who used to hold these beliefs and have since become a Christian? If so,what changed your mind?
If you don't have time to read this article now,maybe you can do it later and let me know if it brought any things to light that you hadn't thought about before.
There are plenty of other articles on this subject,but I liked the approach of the author as in the beginning being one of disbelief as well. It may sound far-fetched,but after "connecting-the-dots",I don't know how you could not start to wonder.
You may say,"There is no God",but then that would negate the existence of Satan also,wouldn't it? If these powerful leaders are worshipping Lucifer,don't you suppose they are also acknowledging God,by their very actions working against Him?
I don't want to ask any more at this point. I'd appreciate any thoughtful responses on the evidence presented or on why you think "Lucifer" is not behind the One-World Religion.
Thanks!
This article I am referring to is a good starting point,and I urge you to please take a couple minutes of your time to read it. If you disagree with what it says,I'd like you to give testimony as to why you believe otherwise.
From www.rense.com...
QUOTE:
"Lucifer Rising"
..."a condensed summary of evidence which will show that as it says in the Bible verse above, Lucifer is amongst us, and the mayhem and chaos we are now experiencing on an international scale in this the first decade of the 21st century, is due to the culmination of many millenia of plotting and planning by the eternal adversary as mentioned in the Holy Scriptures.
..."through each of the many interconnecting aspects of what the New Age terms `The Plan` and what Freemasonry calls `The Great Work Of Ages`. Call it what you will, by `essay's end` , it should become obvious that what we are dealing with is Lucifer's rebellion against God.
..."It should be apparent to the reader that a `nexus` has been formed, connecting the major players in the push towards the One World Dictatorship, with the United Nations, The New Age Movement, and the `Greens` all interlocking at the top, with the `hidden hand` of the Illuminati pulling the strings in the background as the driving force moving us all inexorably towards the New World Order.
..."As G. K. Chesterton once observed, "If man will not believe in God, the danger is not that he will believe in nothing, but that he will believe in anything."
..."The New Age and the One World Government conspiracy are intrinsic and inseparable.. Although all the various sects and cults which make up `Pantheism` may appear diverse and separate, all the basic elements are the same for the various gnostic hierarchical religions, they just have a different focus. They operate off the same principles and cooperate and function together.
..."Freemasonry is truly the worship of Lucifer. Once this is understood, it becomes clear as to why they have been so anxious all these centuries to keep the lid of secrecy tightly screwed down, for if people really understood that Masonry is a worship of Lucifer, no one would join, and the citizens of most communities would rise up as one to demand that the organization be completely outlawed."...
So,while many of you may be against the NWO,by following the New Age religions,you are indeed playing right into their hands!
The article I am hoping you will read should just be a launching pad to gaining further understanding of the roots of the New-Age movement. At some point,I believe we will be called to account for our beliefs,so one should do all they can to be able to say they were not deceived.
As you may recall from previous posts,I call myself a Christian,and a "fundamentalist" at that. I am confident that my faith is right for me,though many of you will call me deceived. (I'm not offended if you call me "delusional",or something like it!)
What I really wonder is if those who claim to be seeking "love and light" can be convinced that it is Lucifer,(Satan),that you are following,and that that is a bad thing!
I ask because someone I love dearly holds these same "new-age" beliefs,and I know how stubborn she is to maintain her philosophies. At this point,she wants nothing to do with this type of discussions.
Are there any of you who used to hold these beliefs and have since become a Christian? If so,what changed your mind?
If you don't have time to read this article now,maybe you can do it later and let me know if it brought any things to light that you hadn't thought about before.
There are plenty of other articles on this subject,but I liked the approach of the author as in the beginning being one of disbelief as well. It may sound far-fetched,but after "connecting-the-dots",I don't know how you could not start to wonder.
You may say,"There is no God",but then that would negate the existence of Satan also,wouldn't it? If these powerful leaders are worshipping Lucifer,don't you suppose they are also acknowledging God,by their very actions working against Him?
I don't want to ask any more at this point. I'd appreciate any thoughtful responses on the evidence presented or on why you think "Lucifer" is not behind the One-World Religion.
Thanks!
reply posted on 31-12-2009 @ 06:13 PM by On the Edge
reply to post by kyle43
I believe the author of the article is pointing out that people are following Luciferian principles,under the guise of "enlightenment",when in truth they are just doing exactly what Satan desires them to do,turn away from God.
I believe the author of the article is pointing out that people are following Luciferian principles,under the guise of "enlightenment",when in truth they are just doing exactly what Satan desires them to do,turn away from God.
reply posted on 31-12-2009 @ 06:30 PM by On the Edge
reply to post by Mason mike
I've done way more than enough research to believe what I post!
Don't think this one article convinced me! I'm just using it in hopes that others will find what it says intriguing enough to search further on their own!
Begin with this,if you like.
defenderpublishing.blogspot.com...
("Apollyon Rising 2012",by Tom Horn. The best research I have ever seen on the occult workings of our government!)
I've done way more than enough research to believe what I post!
Don't think this one article convinced me! I'm just using it in hopes that others will find what it says intriguing enough to search further on their own!
Begin with this,if you like.
defenderpublishing.blogspot.com...
("Apollyon Rising 2012",by Tom Horn. The best research I have ever seen on the occult workings of our government!)
reply posted on 31-12-2009 @ 07:03 PM by On the Edge
reply to post by On the Edge
(Actually meant for Mason Mike!)
From
www.newswithviews.com...
("Apollyon Rising")
QUOTE:
..."It may come as little surprise then that when George W. Bush in a speech the day before his second inaugural said the United States had "a calling from beyond the stars" (a disturbing statement taken directly from the satanic Necronomicon fiction concerning alien creator gods) that the Capital Building had been intentionally set in the head of a Masonic Owl Figure, which in turn stands atop the White House, located on the chin of the Pentagramic Goat of Mendes. The upside-down pentagram or "baphomet," clearly visible in the D.C. street layout, represents the goat’s head and is considered the most powerful symbol in Satanism, while the owl figure is a well-known representative of the Masonic, Illuminati, Bohemian owl of wisdom incarnation of Athene, Minerva, Lilith and Hecate....
...Occultists around the world understand the power of these D.C. symbols and rituals, and realize they are not only for conveying psychological concepts, but actually to coerce the mysterious and potent supernaturalism invited to take residence there. This belief is deeply preserved in all of the Babylonian, Egyptian, Greek, Roman and Kabalistic symbolism that is a part of Masonic history, and according to famous Freemason, Foster Bailey, these symbols intentionally hide "a secret… which veils mysterious forces. These energies when released can have a potent effect."[5] Scottish Philosopher Thomas Carlyle once famously added: "By symbols, accordingly, is man guided and commanded, made happy, made wretched." Masons as a result are under oath never to reveal the true meaning of their symbols, and when somehow they are compelled to offer explanation, they falsify the statement, even to lower degree Masons as explained by Sovereign Grand Commander Albert Pike in the Masonic handbook Morals and Dogma: "Masonry, like all the Religions, all the Mysteries, Hermetic, and Alchemy, conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be misled; to conceal the Truth, which it calls Light, from them, and to draw them away from it."...
[edit on 31-12-2009 by On the Edge]
(Actually meant for Mason Mike!)
From
www.newswithviews.com...
("Apollyon Rising")
QUOTE:
..."It may come as little surprise then that when George W. Bush in a speech the day before his second inaugural said the United States had "a calling from beyond the stars" (a disturbing statement taken directly from the satanic Necronomicon fiction concerning alien creator gods) that the Capital Building had been intentionally set in the head of a Masonic Owl Figure, which in turn stands atop the White House, located on the chin of the Pentagramic Goat of Mendes. The upside-down pentagram or "baphomet," clearly visible in the D.C. street layout, represents the goat’s head and is considered the most powerful symbol in Satanism, while the owl figure is a well-known representative of the Masonic, Illuminati, Bohemian owl of wisdom incarnation of Athene, Minerva, Lilith and Hecate....
...Occultists around the world understand the power of these D.C. symbols and rituals, and realize they are not only for conveying psychological concepts, but actually to coerce the mysterious and potent supernaturalism invited to take residence there. This belief is deeply preserved in all of the Babylonian, Egyptian, Greek, Roman and Kabalistic symbolism that is a part of Masonic history, and according to famous Freemason, Foster Bailey, these symbols intentionally hide "a secret… which veils mysterious forces. These energies when released can have a potent effect."[5] Scottish Philosopher Thomas Carlyle once famously added: "By symbols, accordingly, is man guided and commanded, made happy, made wretched." Masons as a result are under oath never to reveal the true meaning of their symbols, and when somehow they are compelled to offer explanation, they falsify the statement, even to lower degree Masons as explained by Sovereign Grand Commander Albert Pike in the Masonic handbook Morals and Dogma: "Masonry, like all the Religions, all the Mysteries, Hermetic, and Alchemy, conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be misled; to conceal the Truth, which it calls Light, from them, and to draw them away from it."...
[edit on 31-12-2009 by On the Edge]
reply posted on 31-12-2009 @ 07:08 PM by On the Edge
reply to post by badmedia
There's nothing wrong with wisdom!
I'm referring to the belief that men feel they are equal to God. And the knowledge of men as being preferable to the wisdom of God,which comes through prayer and humility,in my opinion.
(It's possible you took what I said out of context?)
There's nothing wrong with wisdom!
I'm referring to the belief that men feel they are equal to God. And the knowledge of men as being preferable to the wisdom of God,which comes through prayer and humility,in my opinion.
(It's possible you took what I said out of context?)
All I can say is "Free at last. Free at last. Thank God, almighty, we're free at last!!"reply posted on 31-12-2009 @ 07:18 PM by On the Edge
reply to post by SpeakerofTruth
You've always been free to believe whatever you choose.
God doesn't force anyone to come to Him.
Christians don't threaten to kill those who don't follow Jesus.
Muslims? No comment.
You've always been free to believe whatever you choose.
God doesn't force anyone to come to Him.
Christians don't threaten to kill those who don't follow Jesus.
Muslims? No comment.
reply posted on 31-12-2009 @ 07:28 PM by SpeakerofTruth
reply to post by On the Edge
"
Well, admittedly, edge. there are some "new age" beliefs that should be questioned. I am completely in accordance with you there.
Listen, Christians, at least a percentage, are good paople. Actually, I love Christians and to an extent, whther admitted or not, Christians love "new agers." If not, there wouldn't be concern. I'll grant you that.
Christianity, at least according to this "new ager," in principle, has the right idea. "Do unto others, as you would have them do unto you." If that is not the underlying principle of both the "new age" and Christianity, I'll kiss anyone's butt on the town square.
By the way, I am going to take your name off of my "foe's" list, cause I don't think you have the hatred I initially thought you had.
"
Well, admittedly, edge. there are some "new age" beliefs that should be questioned. I am completely in accordance with you there.
Listen, Christians, at least a percentage, are good paople. Actually, I love Christians and to an extent, whther admitted or not, Christians love "new agers." If not, there wouldn't be concern. I'll grant you that.
Christianity, at least according to this "new ager," in principle, has the right idea. "Do unto others, as you would have them do unto you." If that is not the underlying principle of both the "new age" and Christianity, I'll kiss anyone's butt on the town square.
By the way, I am going to take your name off of my "foe's" list, cause I don't think you have the hatred I initially thought you had.
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