reply to post by infinite
There are a number of things that greatly confuse the average person on both sides of the pond regarding this issue and other similar things.
In Mel Gibson’s movie the Patriot about a South Carolinian’s family’s struggle in the Revolutionary War in one scene Mel Gibson’s character
met Lord Cornwallis inside his headquarters to negotiate a Prisoner Exchange between the opposing forces.
Lord Cornwallis complained to Gibson’s character in that scene that the American Rebel practice of targeting officers specifically at the beginning
of every skirmish and battle was improper and ungentlemanly. He went on to draw a distinction between officers as being ‘civilized’ and enlisted
men as being ‘rabble’. He explained without civilized officers to command, control and direct the enlisted men, that the enlisted men would turn
into nothing but an unruly armed mob, which would run counter to and defeat what civilization was all about.
While many people would argue being civilized is being ‘Christian’ or being ‘Educated’ or being ‘Mannered’ or even ‘Moneyed’ or a
combination or all of them none of these are correct.
The epitome of civilized and what makes civilizations work is the ability of the people at the top of the power structure of that civilization to keep
Agreements that between the rabble of the unwashed masses usually require just a verbal promise and a handshake but in actuality agreements that then
become ‘enforceable’ through written, signed, sealed and witnessed ‘contracts’, ‘treaties’ and ‘accords’.
Those are the instruments, the enforceable instruments that make our notions of civilization possible.
In ancient times nations went to war for one reason and one reason only, it was never about the ideology they are often couched in today, it was about
one thing, the ‘spoils’ of war. War was a money making enterprise and not through that commonly held fallacy amongst the unwashed masses of it’s
good for the economy because the State has to buy lots of swords and shields and sandals for the armies. Rather it was because the nation invaded
would be looted of its gold and silver and jewels and art and its conquered people sold into slavery.
When I was still a very young man and prone to temper tantrums still and the youthful indiscretions that are born of uncontrolled emotion a very wise
man said to me “If you want to hurt a person, really hurt a person, hurt a person in the way they will always fear and respect you, you don’t
attack them, you attack their wallet!”
Truer words are seldom ever spoken and while the ideologies and philosophies that are manipulated by Officers to get the enlisted rabble to fight one
another in controlled ways, and the unwashed masses to fund it with their labors and tax dollars and support it morally are real to the enlisted
combatants and the citizens in relation to their perspectives and world view and their emotions to this day wars are only fought for the spoils, for
Fought because the civilized men at top of the food chain are either desirous of the spoils that can be had through conquest or because a contract
between sovereign parties is no longer being honored.
This is why nations like Cuba, Iran, North Korea and others are isolated and trade restricted with them through sanctions, because they broke or
failed to honor their existing contracts through revolutions born of ideologies and philosophies and not the civilized process of ‘contract
While the unwashed masses and the enlisted warriors will still be told it is all about the philosophies and ideologies of dangerous and uncivilized
regimes it really is just about those contracts that have been broken and the never ending requirement to keep attempting to enforcing them, because
the system of civilization as we know it is all hinged on civilized responsible parties keeping their words. At the top of the food chain they believe
the moment they stop those never ending and incessant efforts to control and direct and command through contractual honored agreements the world or
much of it will disintegrate into an unruly armed unintelligently directed mob beyond their control.
What gets so hard for most people in America and England as well to believe that the United States lost the War of 1812 and the Revolutionary War is
the tactical battle field victories that led to the armistices being won by American Armies.
The unwashed masses and the enlisted rabble are governed through a might makes right concept and philosophy.
Yet in the case of the Revolutionary War when our plenipotentiaries reached the Court of Versailles a Holy Roman Empire Court, via the Court of
Madrid, and the Court of their High Mightiness of the Netherlands which were also Courts of the Holy Roman Empire to sit down and conclude the peace
won through their imagined tactical battle field victories they then came face to face with those ‘most civilized’ men at the top of the food
Those were of course the Bankers, Land Owners, and Creditors who armed with their contracts and their bills wanted to know exactly how the American
plenipotentiaries planned to pay them for the property they were in fact stealing through violence and the debts that they were trying to renege on in
Armed with enforceable contracts and far superior monetary wealth and controlling a vastly larger swath of the earth than the rebels had temporarily
seized from them these Royals, Land Owners, Bankers and Creditors had one simple and powerful message, submit to our control and guarantee our
repayment in a Treaty we shall write and through a Constitution for this new corporate entity we will tell you how to write that guarantees our
control and repayment or face non-stop war as we will raise new armies and can afford to do so, and face economic isolation as we will absolutely not
conduct trade and commerce with you.
Wars are not won or even fought on the battlefields those actions just lead to the leverage of getting the parties into the drawing room where the
bankers, landowners and other creditors who are the civilized people who actually run the world create the contracts and treaties and use the leverage
of money and wealth to decide the outcome.
America’s plenipotentiaries literally had no choice but to submit at this point as the reality is had they not, they would have faced non-stop war,
and the same kind of sanctions we employ today on Cuba and Iran and been destined not for posterity and greatness but poverty and a slow ruinous decay
that would have led eventually to their utter defeat and humiliation.
All the Creditors and Royals and Bankers and Landowners did was offered them a face saving way through contract to salvage their own reputations and
to parlay that into the civilized control of the unwashed masses and enlisted rabble of America to ensure that real winners would get paid!
Get paid and remain secretly but firmly in control.
If you actually know the English language which the majority of English Speakers do not in the very first paragraph of the Treaty of Paris the English
King who derives his real power as a prince of Rome and a prince elector of Rome and the Arch-Treasurer of Rome clearly incorporates the United
States, and clearly reserves the right to be it’s prince elector (choose it’s President) and it’s treasurer (controls it’s money)!
It states it plain as day.
When the Holy Roman Empire dissolved on paper in 1805 it led to the Americans believing they might be able to renege on the Contracts, that led to the
War of 1812 and the only goal of 1812 was to sack Washington and to secure the Original Copies of the Enforceable Contracts and carry them back to
England so it would never be possible for future American Revolutionaries to deny their existence and they could always be used as leverage.
What we are told by our Governments is only to appeal to our emotions of pride or inferiority, of destiny or fate for the sheer purpose of emotional
manipulation. Because we are the uneducated or undereducated unwashed masses it is not thought that we are capable of reading and comprehending what
are in fact public records that frame the agreements, the contractual agreements that bind civilization together.
The world is ruled not through force of arms but through money. Rome is actually the source of that wealth and controls the money cartels that enslave
us to debt and money.
This is what I have discovered through my own research, many people will say post a snippet for me to debunk, or deny or accept.
As Fox Maulder of the X-Files would say, the Truth is out there, and if knowing the truth is important enough to you, you will go looking for it just
as I did and you will find it if you look in the right places, many of which I have stated where those right places are.
Two thousand years of history and contracts all point to one inevitable conclusion when you take the time to search it all out and read it all, that
Rome never ever went out of business, never gave up it’s rights and ownership and rules almost the entire world now as a result.
[edit on 16/1/10 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]