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Originally posted by dpmduran
reply to post by jbmitch
EXCELLENT response to what happens to be the way it is!
Originally posted by JFK4EVER
I've read Stanton Friedman's book TOP SECRET / MAJIC, and I am very impressed with his research. He conclusively believes that at least 4 of the MJ12 documents are genuine and that the program did exist at some point.
However, if you accept the premise that the U.S. government has a recovered alien craft in their possession
Originally posted by Springer
While I personally believe MJ12 is a total fabrication, I can't prove that it is. Normally, that wouldn't bother me as the burden of proof falls upon the teller of the tale...
In this strange case we are presented with 55 documents of which only a handful (that I am aware of) have been proven false.
I'll say it again, it is my belief that when one document in a set is proven a hoax the rest of them are most likely hoaxes too. Unfortunately that is only my belief and I can't prove it.
Does that mean the MJ12 documents are a forgery? I DON'T know and I challenge anyone who claims they do to show us the forensic evidence that proves it. I would also state that I have never seen any "REAL" forensic evidence they are real either...
Getting a Fellow of the American Academy of Forensic Science whose specialty is documents to thoroughly examine these documents would satisfy me completely one way or the other. I've just never been convinced it was worth the expense, yet...
In any case, this is the best (even handed, NOT biased or demanding acceptance) review of these documents I've seen, THANKS Gazrock!
[edit on 12-31-2009 by Springer]
In any case, this is the best (even handed, NOT biased or demanding acceptance) review of these documents I've seen,
Originally posted by SuperSlovak
reply to post by Gazrok
You think Harry Truman would just let a sensitive document like this go to the public? I don't think so. If it was real it would be guarded.
Originally posted by The Shrike
reply to post by Gazrok
Just one of the too-numerous-to-count nails in the Majestic 12 hoax. Plenty "Moore" (pun) where that came from. Nothing you nor any other believer could convince me of the reality of Majestic dozen. Same category as the Roswell "crash." Bah, humbug!
"Who Wrote the Majestic 12 Papers?
by Brian Dunning, Sep 10 2009
“Majestic 12” is one of the seminal hoaxes of UFO lore. It was supposedly the name of a group of Illuminati who were “in” on the “fact” that UFOs were alien spacecraft, well known to the United States government. A typed letter (established up, down, and sideways as a hoax) purportedly written by President Truman, created the Majestic 12 committee by secret Presidential order. Since then, many “classified” government documents have “appeared” acknowledging the government’s full knowledge of alien visitation. The story of Majestic 12 was broken to the world in 1987 by UFOlogist William Moore, which casts immediate suspicion upon him as the perpetrator; but there are other possible suspects as well.
The late Philip Klass, perhaps the best known of the skeptical UFO investigators, once tried to flush out the author. One of the papers, known as the Cutler/Twining Memo, was in a certain unusual typeface, and Klass reasoned that whoever wrote it probably had authentic government documents from the same period to use as a style guide. He offered a cash reward for any extant examples. Who sprang forward with handy documents to claim the prize? None other than Stanton Friedman. Klass paid him $1000 (probably considering it a bargain), and Friedman’s reputation was permanently stained as a result. Tip to paranormal hoaxers hoping to make a career out of it: Don’t take the bait if you don’t want to be hooked.
Do you have a theory on who was behind the Majestic 12 hoax? I welcome your nominations. Let’s hear it!"