The Illustrated History of MJ-12, page 4
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reply posted on 31-12-2009 @ 07:07 PM by Aliensun
reply to post by The Shrike


Rather than simply denying MJ-12 being real, without any great evidence other than opinion, I would like to see you offer a counter proposal--since you admit to accepting the legitimacy of UFOs--that can give us an idea of how they will eventually explain the government's coverup of at least half a century if not more.

One day, they will have to admit much of what they knew all along and be able to defend it with long lists of studies and long dead personnel. It can't be just allowed to be a big hole in the coming of the saucers. It won't fly for them to one day say, "Hey, you know, for decades we poo-pooed these UFO things and guess what! They exist! We are talking to some of them right now! How about that! Ain't that grand what we are doing for you?"

They gotta cover their asses. and slowly pulling out a bunch of legitimate papers, maybe mixed with faked papers, will allow them to show a paper trail that blames all of those other people in the past.

This is nothing but a building of a basically true case for their plausible denial of a precedent having been set from the beginning that they were forced to continue. There obviously has to be a paper trail, and if most of the principles are dead and virtually forgotten, why not dig them up and show them to be the ones involved? Are they all being framed and other dead guys are really the guilty ones? If so, why coverup for them? Who is being protected. The named figures are the key ones in our country at that time to be involved. Who else would you supposed could have been the ringleaders?

Now, if you have a better idea of how they will explain who did what over the last half century, I'm sure most of us would like to hear it. Basically, you are throwing the baby out with the bathwater as the old saying goes.

There is a trail to be revealed and why should they lie (too) much about it?


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reply posted on 31-12-2009 @ 09:58 PM by jkrog08
reply to post by Gazrok


Good to see you back posting in your subject matter my friend....VERY good info, presentation, and facts, S/F for sure...

I'll have to read though this more tomm. but GREAT JOB.



Shows why you were the FIRST UFO FSME...Great work as usual, and again great to see you back!


reply posted on 1-1-2010 @ 12:45 AM by freelance_zenarchist
New Revelations on MJ12

Also, in early 1982, Moore had approached former National Enquirer reporter Bob Pratt (who had first published a story on Roswell in the Enquirer in 1980). Moore asked Pratt to collaborate on a novel called MAJIK-12. As a result, Pratt always believed that the Majestic-12 papers were a hoax, either perpetrated personally by Moore or perhaps by AFOSI, with Doty using Moore as a willing target.


Does anyone know more about this book that Bill Moore wanted to write with Rick Doty and Bob Pratt?


reply posted on 1-1-2010 @ 12:11 PM by Advancedboy
All this UFo and Rosewell and reverse engineering unfortunately draws similarities to war in Iraq. The war is never meant to be won, it is always to be meant to be sustained in order to have the procurement. Remember, that all of us who don`t work for government have to sell our skills, products or services, and to do that we need a market for that. Coincidentally a covered up secret engineering programs attract huge budgets that don`t need to fight with competition. where three denominators meet- 1. Secrecy.2. Lack of competition3. Constatnt funding. is in itself a mixture to cause trouble. It is like running a meatpackers company inside a vegetarian shark fraternity. Besides those are people who work there, and they are interested to keep their jobs, and to secure a job you MUST create either a natural or artificial demand for it. I believe that UFOs really crashed, and not once( the same rule as for cheating, if once, why not more). The problem is that very likely unjustfiably big money went into it allowing the funders to get away with something, because of giving...something.It is very unlikely that an overpriced white world F-22 could raise eybrows over money issues, while expecting that a totally secret project on financially unmeasurable saucers would attract diligently calculated pennies. And behind those procurements stand not some mystical gizmo nerds, those are actually companies, like Lockheed Martin, Northrop, General- Dynamics, etc. revealing the secrets would actually reveal ,probably, a different necessity of procurement level with far less zeroes..... How do I know that? Well, US always gravitates towards money ,even if it is off the ground/.


reply posted on 1-1-2010 @ 12:24 PM by Eurisko2012
reply to post by Gazrok


Yes, i think that spacecraft in New Mexico had fiber optic cable,
microprocessors, LCDs, and other high technology equipment
that we all use today.
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