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2009: The year of the sceptic.

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posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 12:10 AM
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Right oh!

First off the bat I hope everyone has their hierarchy of needs covered and is happy.

The purpose of this thread is to call out those cranky stories of the UFOlogy world that furthered ignorance under the guise of being genuine.

This is not to pick on individuals or their beliefs - just to highlight some of the more fantastic claims that never came to fruition.

It has been a wonderful year full of amazing stories such as the Norway spiral, water being detected on the moon from us shooting at it and the possibility of life on Mars due to it's methane content. We've had a sky full of interesting phenomena that has both dazzled us and provided us with more insight into how this universe of ours works.

But what of those stories that were just too wacky? The constantly imminent disclosure, those aliens amongst us (or their alien souls...whatever they are), the deciphered crop circles, the photos of an alien world, the lucky Turkish camera man who got plenty of shots of a saucer/oilrig.

What have been your favourites?

As a sceptic we must endure ever changing variables and adjust our understanding accordingly. As a human this can lead to frustration and pent-up emotions which can hinder our reason and tolerance.

So in the festive spirit, with reflective practise and for fun: Post your favourite tall tales of 2009.

-m0r




posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 12:28 AM
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Nothing beats the claims by the deluded of alien anomalies/structures on the Moon and Mars. With their awfully over-pixelated or downright blurry photos, colorized and homogenized, they fell victims to the wonder of pareidolia. They hee and they haw and still prove nothing, nada!

Then there are the religius ones that think the alleged aliens are either angels or demons or Playboy bunnies out for a good abduction.

Then there are the... (anything goes here)



posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 12:29 AM
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I personally see 2013 as the year of the sceptic since we will be able to kick it off with one of the biggest non-event in the last 2000 years..



posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 01:18 AM
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How can you waste time starting this thread when there's them alien reptilian shapeshifters out to get ya!

Check out them eyes!



It was a late starter, but Charlie Sheen's wife the reptilian shapeshifter is at the top of my list!




posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 09:16 AM
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I think my favourite are all the brain trusts that ended their thread names with an exclamaition point! THe absolute proofers, and the geniuses that think they have the answers to everything. You know. the "notice me, I use large words, and think Im impressive. no names mentioned. I had one even threaten me in the u2u. gave me the adress of an apartment complex and challenged me to come to his home to call him an idiot to his face and all that. He forgot to give me the apartment number so I could knock on his door. I found this out the hard way. I dont think he realised I live in the same city. Two lessons learned that night. Dont take up internet challenges, and becareful when trying to make yourself out as some sort of tough guy.... the person you're bullying may just be your neighbour. I think the absolute BEST set of bullocks of 2009 has got to be the web bot thing that was predicting a majour life changing event taking place on the 15th of october or something like that. I dont think anything happened.



posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 09:20 AM
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Personally, my biggest one won't officially be "over" until 12:00 am....when its apparent no disclosure in 2009 will be forthcoming...



posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 09:36 AM
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I think its safe to say humankind is really just a world full of idiots.There are some smarter than others but none the less still idiots on the grand scale of things.Still dumb primates trying to evolve.

The fact that UFO's and Aliens have so easily been hidden from the public just reinstates what I said above.

People are ignorant.

The army releases to the press that they have recovered a disc in Roswell.Well that was quite dumb on the officers part.Then someone with a little more sense decides hey that stuff is supposed to be secret.

Next day its a balloon.So the army is telling us the people that they employ dont know the diffrence between alien bodies,or the diffrence between alien type materials or alumnium foil.

BS.But people are so stuipid they bought it line,hook and sinker.

Pilots,Astronauts,Presidents,Generals,Policemen the list goes on and on of people who claimed to have viewed UFO's.But according to stuipid people there all liars.

Countless videos and photo's yet everyone is a CGI specialist or a photo-shop pro.I fully admit I am stuipid.But it doesnt bother me because so is everyone else.There is even more stuipid people that believe UFO's dont exist and that makes me feel better about myself.At least I am not on the bottom rung on the ladder of stuipid people.



posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 09:40 AM
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Originally posted by KingX
BS.But people are so stuipid they bought it line,hook and sinker.

Pilots,Astronauts,Presidents,Generals,Policemen the list goes on and on of people who claimed to have viewed UFO's.But according to stuipid people there all liars.


My favorite moments are usually when really stooopid people call other people 'stupid' and misspell it. And demonstrate their microliteracy with using "there" for "they're".



posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by JimOberg

Originally posted by KingX
BS.But people are so stuipid they bought it line,hook and sinker.

Pilots,Astronauts,Presidents,Generals,Policemen the list goes on and on of people who claimed to have viewed UFO's.But according to stuipid people there all liars.


My favorite moments are usually when really stooopid people call other people 'stupid' and misspell it. And demonstrate their microliteracy with using "there" for "they're".


English is not my first language I do the best I can.

How many languages do you know?



posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 09:52 AM
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Anything by the website "marsanomalyresearch".

Why does marsanomalyresearch feel that they need to overcompress/oversample their images?...and why do they always shade them with a "sepia" color? Why not just use the much more hi-resolution source image rather than overcompressing the image until it is full of jpeg compression artifacts?

Here is an example. Marsanomalyreaseched claimed their picture below sowed strustures and straight-line roads on the Moon. All of these photos used the EXACT SAME RAW IMAGES from the Clementine space probe. The image on the bottom is from the Clemetine Lunar Map v2.0 (beta) is very clear and relatively hi-res. The image in the middle is the old Clementine imaging software that left "stich" lines. The top image is the overcompressed, oversampled, sepia-colorized image from marsanomalyresearch:




[edit on 12/31/2009 by Soylent Green Is People]



posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 10:34 AM
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because its easier to find airbrushing that way.



posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 10:43 AM
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Web Bot! Web Bot! Web Bot!

Totally and utterly that one!

I love how now we can predict the future (and natural disasters) using keywords on the internet.
Because obviously humanitys 'chat' can predict earthquakes (and the end of the world in 2012)
The October thing was good though. Seens how a massive nothing happened!

I also agree with the "2013 will be the ultimate year of the sceptic"comment by Xtrozero.

But yes,

Happy new year!




[edit on 31/12/2009 by Ayana]



posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 10:48 AM
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Those pics look like they've been made with a bad printer with guide rollers that were stuck.

Thanks for posting them though. Interesting.



posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 10:48 AM
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What about the select few who are enlightened and sent here by the federation to grace our websites with their supreme presence, presenting us with all the answers that we seek? Someone needs to group these people into one room, drop a grenade, and lock the door!


How damaged and insecure must someone be to create these delusions? It's like the Indigo fantasy on steroids. It just gets worse. It's amazing how many supreme light beings reside from behind a PC. Where are these people when I go out?

[edit on 31-12-2009 by spinalremain]



posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 10:55 AM
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Originally posted by stanlee
reply to post by Soylent Green Is People
 


because its easier to find airbrushing that way.

Well -- their over-compressing of that photo uncovered no visible airbrushing.

The only things that were "uncovered" by them over-compressing the image were the jpeg-compression artifacts that they claimed were structures and the straight lines "roads" that came from the way the old version 1.5 of the Clementine image browser displayed the images.

If they found no evidence of airbrushing in that photo, then why post it on their website?


[edit on 12/31/2009 by Soylent Green Is People]



posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 10:55 AM
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There was so much BS in 2009 but, and I may be wrong, most of it doesn't seem to have originated from the more sensible parts of the field oft described as UFOlogy (I don't like the term). I haven't seen anyone like MUFON fall for major hoaxes or endorse charlatans.

While I have seen certain non-mainstream websites that are generally 'new age' in scope intensify their invisible rays of BS by endorsing everything and anyone that helps sell their products or their advertisers products. Whether that's hardcore believers acting in response to increasing rationalism in mainstream UFOlogy or cynical profiteering is open to debate. There were parts of UFOlogy, and personalities, who have always endorsed anything, but 2009 seems to be the year of the New Age strike back (it'd be the middle of the first three Star Wars films
).

From my rather subjective observations there seems to be as bigger gap between sensible UFOlogy and the more, for want of a better term, belief based UFOlogy. Which is why I think groups like MUFON, and more sensible internet forums
, have come under attack from the more ET-religious/financially motivated parts of the UFO community. Which goes to show how open to debate hardcore believers and new age types really are. If you disagree you're a disinformation source.



posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 10:56 AM
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Originally posted by KingX
Pilots,Astronauts,Presidents,Generals,Policemen the list goes on and on of people who claimed to have viewed UFO's.But according to stuipid people there all liars.


Could you please point to one example where any of these people have been generalized as liars?



posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 11:01 AM
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Originally posted by jackphotohobby
There was so much BS in 2009 but, and I may be wrong, most of it doesn't seem to have originated from the more sensible parts of the field oft described as UFOlogy (I don't like the term)...

From my rather subjective observations there seems to be as bigger gap between sensible UFOlogy and the more, for want of a better term, belief based UFOlogy.


Great point, Jack. One of the good things about this year has been the growing division between serious UFO research and the Exopolitics movement. The Exopolitics movement marginalizes itself with it's antics. Unfortunately, Exopolitics is loud, seductive and cynical. Even at the margins, it is doing damage.



posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 11:02 AM
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Thank God for skeptics!

I have an open mind but I love it when people 'debunk' theories and whatnot. Isn't that why we are here?

So I hope that every year from now on is the year of the skeptic, it keeps us sane and on the level.

If there is something that they cannot fully explain then fair enough, I'll get involved.

But without skeptics this site would be a circus.

Keep on keepin' on



posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 11:03 AM
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I think MUFON is feeling the effects of the global recession and feels they need to appeal to more people to survive financially -- which means courting the more "radical" people among alien-visitation believers.

These radicals are people who believe every "alien" story reported because they already made up their minds about alien visitation and therefore have clouded judgment -- i.e., they fall into the logical fallacy of "I know aliens visitation is happening, therefore every report of alien visitation must be true."



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