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Say Goodbye to the Rothschilds & Rockefellers - Latest News from Asian Secret Societies

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posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 06:43 PM
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I agree, but I think if the entire rest of the world can get together, it can be done. Hopefully if they audit the Fed properly and route them out, its a good start. It needs to be closed down, and a new currency started really, then the proper governemt has a "small chance", but its a big "if".




posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 06:51 PM
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Yes, that's why we can expect first (nuclear) explosion in China in June 2011. followed by 2nd, 3rd.... and many others



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 07:42 PM
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Lol God B3 I hope not


I want a peaceful move, but if its possible no-one knows...



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 07:59 PM
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I agree with you and have known about Benjamin Fulford's China connection for some time. China said three years ago that if the World Bank played their Wall Street collapse game, there would be retaliation against the elite controlling families.

I was hoping they would be arrogant enough to do it, and it happened. I have been waiting to hear something about this from Fulford - but also, the game might have changed since then. You have to look at the fact that our war debt and financial support is being funded by China - they have the upper hand on the U.S. and the banks. But, only until the World Bank and the E.U. demand a world currency. Then it is game on!

We can all still hope that China will act and take out the major players in the Lucifer banking system - but only time will tell.

When I start seeing big names and big players winding up in the obituaries - then I will breath a little easier.

Triads anyone - they are already here and they love weapons and funding. It wouldn't be that hard to kill a few rich and slow - fat rolly polly bass turds.

Hope is change

[edit on 1-1-2010 by arizonascott]



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 08:10 PM
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Remember that old saying that in the end days - the Anti-Christ will be revealed?

I believe it is more a group than an individual

The Anti-Christ is a combination of evil men who work systematically to destroy Gods plan and man, they would be:

The Fed - EU - Trilateral Commission - World Bank - Rothschilds/Rockefeller/Kissenger and all the others who fall into that long list connected bloodline.

Compartmentalization keeps everyone quiet and the truth in the shadows.

But light of truth is shining brightly now thanks to the internet, sites like this one and the few people who are not afraid to speak out and fight back.

They have been revealed - now what!



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 08:34 PM
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I like you attitude arizonascott, you are exactly the type of person who will stand-up and be counted when the time comes. Like me, you are sick of the preverbial wool being pulled over the sheeple's eyes, and I think all we can do is sit and wait for these people to make their respective moves against the evils of the centuries.

I think there is a lot more truth to come out yet. I dont feel we have seen the most horrid parts of what these people/groups have done to our earth and our people so far, and when that is released (in time it will), we will see a drastic change, a puclic calling in the media and the governments of the world for the nightmare to end, and once the media turns on them, which they will once the power starts to shift and the money is pulled, the people will turn on them and then their game is up. From that point onward it will be a formality of taking them out and there should be no shortage of people/groups/organisations, secret or not, willing to do it.

Thanks for the comments



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 09:03 PM
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NibiruWarrior, great thread. It doesn’t particularly surprise me that the East is seizing power again from the Rothschilds and Rockefellers. The East has a long history of dominant societies, so it stands to reason that they’d work toward seizing that power again from the West.

I find the store shared by infolurker very interesting as well because it specifically states a focus of these eastern groups. They specifically detest population reduction and “truth seekers in the west”. With that said, one must then ask the question, “what is it that these Eastern Secret Societies want? What are their goals? We’ve seen China rise in power again, right along with Japan. We’ve seen the weakening of Europe, and the US. It makes me wonder what these societies want. What are they after. Every group like this has a mission - a goal. To stop the Illuminati is a fantastic goal, and I support it, but I really want a peak at the other side of the coin.

If removal of the western Illuminati power (and their endgame) is step one, what are steps two and three? What is the Eastern Secret Societies endgame?



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 09:12 PM
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Originally posted by NibiruWarrior
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I agree, but I think if the entire rest of the world can get together, it can be done. Hopefully if they audit the Fed properly and route them out, its a good start. It needs to be closed down, and a new currency started really, then the proper governemt has a "small chance", but its a big "if".



NibiruWarrior, I don't believe that we'll ever be able to audit the fed from the inside. The system is far too corrupt. Literally 99.5% of Congress is bought. We can't get something like that done honestly from the inside. Now, if China and Japan were to come forward (because they have spy agencies of their own) and provide the world with documents showing the outright fraud with the names of the people involved, that would be a game changer.

Buddhists save the day. That's one you don't hear all that often (yes I know there are other faiths too, the largest Buddhas in the world are over there). I can't help but think that this won't end well for the everyday people like us though.



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 09:50 PM
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Thanks for the comments!

I know, and I really have no idea what they might want as an end-game. My only hope is that they just want rid of the tyrants because of all the damaging things they are doing.

I read a few articles coming out of China and Japan about a year ago saying that their governments were unhappy about 9/11. Apparantly, the evidence they had suggested that not only did Al Qaeda not commit the attrocities, but that none of the evidence even pointed to the middle-east and laid strongly inside the US. I think this alone was the main contributing factor to them pulling out of financial harmony with the US and helping crash the dollar via a resource war. Couple that with the recent things that have gone on within the overview of these controlling families, and now there is genuine talk of mass depopulation and serious financial crises ahead, they have simply had enough. Can it not be enough that they just do not want this family in control of the World? Who knows and only time will tell.

I think at this point it's going to take a group with connections like that to remove them, and when it's all over it probably wont be good for people like you and I. Really though, what can they do. Take the money from the planet, it will only be temporarily. Remove key services from public domain (Gas, Electricity, Running Water), it will only be temporary. People will still pull the strings on these facilities until it gets back on its feet. One thing IS for sure, we will really have to come together as a people, to overcome the crisis.

Would I have it not happen though, and keep these humanity destroyers in power in order to keep the peace we have (or in fact dont have) now?

No, I'd see them gone in a heartbeat, and get back to living for love and the light as soon as I could. Getting rid of these people ourselves might even be our test, as a species, before ET's disclose themselves, who knows lol. I live in hope regardless.

Thanks and best, and Happy New Year!

NibiruWarrior



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 10:41 PM
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Is it impossible to conceive...

That with quadrillions at their disposal, the brightest minds in innumerable think tanks, and possibly TIME TRAVEL technology at their beck and call...

that when the 'rich men of the world' .. retreat during the 'desolation'....
into the 'caves' of mountains... ie: Deep Underground Military Bases / Cities ...

that there would need be a dramatic theatric to be projected into the minds of the peasants in order to explain away their immediate dissapearance?

Could not this whole supposed Chinese 'ninja-attack' on the top brass and leadership of the military-industrial complex and their legions of well-to-dos ...

Be used as an excuse to begin a war with the 'Army from the East' ?
simultaneously faking all these deaths.. as they retreat one by one or hundred by hundred into the caves?
if they're supposedly dead on the surface and in the media...
then it's easy to take off and desolate the public.

ie: Ken Lay anyone?

Fulford has TIES.
he got an interview with top man David Rockefeller with little to no effort.

you're all blind i think.... to the very real usefulness of this type of 'situation' that is being conjured here...
and to think that if it's real what Fulford is saying?
the MAGNITUDE of military / Intelligence attention that would be focused on this?
Somehow you suspect that what I've layed out here somehow HASN'T been devised/thought of?

perfect and entertaining escape-hatch story if you ask me!


Ninjas vs Illuminati .... freaking COOL.

my opinion? ... it's fascinating. I don't pick sides in this... as it's all too ignorant to 'believe' what is 'real' and what is 'theatrics'...
building size grains of salt people...
but if it DOES go down.... then consider what I've written before you buy into the story...
IF you want that is...

It's all part of the 'ride' .. the 'show' ... ingeniously performed.
after all.. what investment do I have in rich elites OR their supposed rival ninja assassins?

zero.

I like to post what i think about on here... it's fun to speculate.
but in normal every day life.. in conversation... play along with it...
play along with the grander vision being strategically enacted...
It's bigger than what you see.



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 10:49 PM
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Thanks very much. Thru the following site, while working on other things, I listened to nearly 4 hrs of interview with this fellow. Interviewer Rense soemtime after about the 2-hr-mark said about 3 times going into commerial breaks, that okay next, we're going to hear about the Illuminati plan to kill Christians...but the topic was never dicussed by the tim the show ended. At least I never heard it. Quite strange.

Edit to add site:
video.google.com...#

[edit on 1-1-2010 by pumpkinorange]



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 11:00 PM
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After having done some reading, I'm beginning to see the light around the edges regarding what's going on. I find it very interesting that these secret societies emanating out of China are not associated with the communist mindset, but rather something far more agreeable to freedom and liberty. Seeing that these societies are specifically warring against the western control societies, it sounds to me like they are ensuring the survivability of the asians and the specific mentions of SARS being a targeted hit are disturbing.

I only worry that when one society works to overthrow another society that controls slaves, those slaves often times are still slaves, just to a new master. I'm not sure how the asian societies feel about getting rid of the debt system we have now and replacing it with something better and more fair.

I can only hope that their intentions are honorable. If they genuinely are, the American people are to the point now where it'd only take a rather small lit match to set the whole thing ablaze. It's palpable. Perhaps the asian societies know that and are working to expose the Rothschilds and Rockefellers and let Americans take matters into their own hands. If these asian societies don't think Americans will be able to act on their own behalf, there has to be another plan to oust them from power without American society intervention. Whether that's a structured financial collapse where the Chinese and Japanese societies and swoop in and usher in order and a new system to replace the old, I'm not sure. Either way, there's the military industrial complex that'll have to be dealt with as well. Their only weak link is finance. If the western secret societies are going to be removed from power, a complete financial collapse with the forced replacement of an entirely different system will have to take place so that the western secret societies simply can't seize more power.

These asian societies aren't idiots. There's a lot of very smart and very calm people there who think very long term. Here's to hoping they are thinking of good things rather than making things worse for everyone. Either way, I feel the partial lunar eclipse during a blue moon on new years eve is a sign they'll use as a sign to start everything off. To me, that's a huge astrological sign, and not one to be taken lightly.

Interesting times immediately ahead my friends!



posted on Jan, 2 2010 @ 12:31 AM
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Can you give me a brief run down of Japan's involvement in the secret societies? I was not aware of this.



posted on Jan, 2 2010 @ 12:50 AM
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This has been already talked about in numerous threads already and Fulford is a proven hoaxer, get over it and move on your wasting your time reading anything about the claims of this joker.

PS: if yo just did a search for Benjamin Fulford you we see the topics already discussing this crap.



posted on Jan, 2 2010 @ 02:01 AM
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Originally posted by the_denv


In my home country, the Triads have infiltrated the underground drug scene. They manufacture hash (along with many other drugs), within the hash is thousands of chemicals that are alien to the marijuana plant. Boot polish, silicone, cow pat, horse manure, plastic and many more.



[edit on 30/12/2009 by the_denv]


this is a bunch of hogwash.

One of the most ridiculous assertions I have read all day. Obviously you have no idea what hash is.



posted on Jan, 2 2010 @ 05:27 AM
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I still don't understand how this Fulford guy has any credibility when he says the KGB is involved. Like I pointed out a few pages back, the KGB is a now defunct organization. If Fulford really knew what he was talking about, he would have said SVR instead of KGB.

I still want to know how this guy got an interview with David Rockefeller. Maybe because he's not really exposing him like Alex Jones would.

There is a really strange video interview on Youtube between Benjamin Fulford and David Rockefeller. It has a weird joke "dance" sequence made with video editing at the beginning. Very weird.



posted on Jan, 2 2010 @ 06:43 AM
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I still want to know how this guy got an interview with David Rockefeller. Maybe because he's not really exposing him like Alex Jones would.


Probably because Fulford was Forbes Magazine's Asian correspondent at one time.

The last thing I want to see is a Jones-Rockefeller interview. The man has an inferiority complex and he's simply unable to interview intellectuals of any kind.

Did you see the one with David de Rothschild, when Jones, loosing it as he usually does, screams out "I'm calling you out Red Shield! I've got you Red Shield!"??

Or with Chomsky, when he goes on a 10 minutes rant after Chomsky hung up (realizing he was dealing with a Neanderthal) about Noam being a New World Order shill.

A Rockefeller interview with Ali G would probably bare more fruit than either Fulford or Jones.

EDIT: I should point out that at least, Jones doesn't lie. This is certainly not the case for Mr. Fulford and Zegami, who I'm convinced are fully aware that they are lying. (come on, Fulford claims he was offered the post of Japanese Minister of Finance, how much more delusional can one get?)



[edit on 2/1/10 by ConspiracyNut23]



posted on Jan, 2 2010 @ 11:30 AM
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The Chinese, Japanese and Indians are no different in DNA to the Europeans and Americans. We are all the same one species. What set us apart are only cultural differences, of which account our civlisation developement.

The Europeans had the Greeks to thank for their political philosophies which are practised by the Romans, then to the Brits when Rome invaded Druidish England during the times of Caesar. And from the colonys of ancient Rome, greek philosophies were spread to the barbaric tribes in Europe as well.

In time, such philosophies were still adhered to even though rulership was transferred around, and was seeded into US by Mayflower's immigrants in both theological and secular form of governance.

For the chinese civilisatation developement, it came from learned sages - wise old men who spent time reflecting of mankind's behaviour in relation to leaders and masses. One of the greatest influences was by a sage with the name Confucious, whose teachings helped shaped China's evolution from cavemen developement.

Unlike the Greeks, the ancient Han chinese had never thought beyond monarchy rule for political forms. They know what is right and wrong, seek for a benevolent rule instead. They find comfort in working together and be led instead.

But the Confucian teachings failed, for morality is often beyond mankind's ability to grasp, and most of them prefer individualism to pursue wealth instead, at the expense of others.

The political means to structure society with pragmatical control was never there, the way moncratic Rome and then England had. Hypocrisy was a way of life and a weakness of Han China, which led to it being ruled by barbarians for centuries, even after desposing their own despotic rulers and taking over the throne - first the Mongols, then the Manchus.

The Triads of ancient past were largely Han chinese whom then were mostly educated noblemen who had seek to overthrow the foreigners. As these noblemen were a minority, they had to recruit largely from the uneducated masses.

The foreign rulers decapitated the leaders of the triads, and thus, it was led by the uneducated masses, which was easily used, manipulated and then left hung to dry when commie Mao came along.

In order to survive, these triads had to do what established govt will not do -vices. It was the simpliest activity to conduct.They amass huge profits from it, but they had never wavered from their dream- to install and regain the dragon throne for the Han Chinese and be ruled by a benevolent Han emperor.

Their sons were sent to the best schools around the world to be educated. Their funds invested into legitimate businesses and corporations. They emigrated into every country of the world. With their funds and knowledge, today, they intend to rightfully reclaim China, and manage corporations around the world - for profit and not for enlightenment.

The Chinese triads, are actually no different from the Rockerfellas. World domination is possible for the rich and powerful, and up for grabs now that a power vacuum is ocurring with the European Corporations in poverty.

It is good to kick out Corporations or dismantle their powers, but it better be for EVERYONE, not just the Europeans, or it will only be a case of jumping out of the boiling pot into the frying pan! The masses must rule!

( I am not familiar with the Japanese secret societies and could be wrong. They are - Yakuza, whom noblemen from the Shogan dynasty tried to revive feudalism in the 18th century of modern Japan, but ended up sidelined and ventured into vices, found great profit and like the Chinese, set up conglomerates around the world, seeking domination for profit and not for enlightenment.

Perhaps someone else can share on the Russian and Indian secret societies?)



posted on Jan, 2 2010 @ 02:55 PM
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Here's that video where he interviews David Rockefeller:



Weird, huh?



posted on Jan, 3 2010 @ 04:43 PM
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One thing bothers me about Fulford is that despite being a guy with all the crazy theories and nijias/gangsters talk, he managed to set up an interview with David Rockefeller himself. It's just very unexpected of him and strange. Does anyone feel the same way?

Also with my very limited knowledge of Chinese secret societies, I'd say they are not the ones calling the shots. Triads and alike are what I consider "attached entities" who still participate in real life events and struggles, they more or less have superior entities above them and/or confine them.

For example, Fulford speaks of a certain Red Society and a certain Green Society. They exist but Fulford got the names wrong, they are actually called Hung Society (Hongmen) and Green Gang (Qingbang), the former became China Zhi Gong Party which means they follow Chinese Communist Party's orders now, and the later maintain a major presence in Taiwan, and are historically and logically a little pro-ROC and anti-PRC.

Those may be the official 'cover story' of the two societies but I suspect they are not as powerful as Fulford claims, let along join forces. Today the most powerful known attached entity in China is still CCP, who do not see the Illuminati as nemesis nor friends, but competition in some regards, partners in other.

There are of course 'higher-ups' above those "attached entities". For example there are "Xianzu 12" ("the twelve celestial families") in China with bloodlines stretch over thousands of years. No political , military and natural disasters could affect them as they are Taoist families who have special ways of preserving and protecting themselves. However they have been "de-attached" from the society since they first achieved abundance in the material world. They see themselves as people who carry missions to help the world, but concealment is their survival philosophy.

Assassinating prominent figures is like treating symptoms instead of treating cause, not to mention it will leave trails to be traced back. It doesn't sound like a plan the celestial families would cook up.

Overall Fulford's theories don't sound plausible but the fact a Rockefeller agreed to be interviewed by him is interesting.

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