Sounds great! Except, who replaces them!? Well either way I would say change is good. Also though I have seen quite a bit that says that while they are some of the most powerful underground families, neither is necessarily THE most powerful. Now I have no real way to know but the fact that many people are aware of the power they wield points to there being someone else lurking in the shadows in my mind... Any thoughts on that yourself? Either way can't say I'd be sad to see them go...S&F...

Soon! Well that is good news!!

From time to time I've wondered how would someone go about this...

Any further developments, please keep us posted.

If it's an Elite conspiracy with ambiguous foresight and an Asian slant Fulford is involved. I always take his stuff with a big grain of salt. Although, his insider Asian perspective always renders a wild and entertaining story.

Started listening, thanks.

Well, what exactly happens when you have a century old mafia family running drugs, weapons, extortion, embezzlement, bribery, murder and everything in between?
What happens when the mafia's territory of control expands continents?

Well.. I don't know what you would call the Rockerfellers and Rothchilds, as they are 100x larger then any mob I've ever heard of.

But if these rumors are true, then we may actually see the largest, bloodiest and deadliest battle in the history of existence. As global mafia organizations are using the governments of nations as pawns and rooks, where we are only really familiar with small time mob bosses (in comparison) using governors and judges.

God help us all.

I'll believe it when I see it.


Tell them to hang their castrated bodies in a visible public place, Mussolini-style.

This is the most interesting thread I have read on ATS in a long time. Thank you for posting this information.

There is a huge list of warnings that play in the back of my mind when I first read the OP.

China and Japan are very ancient cultures with secret societies that date back thousands of years. I do not have the specific book with me, but it lists a lot of ancient Chinese and Japanese secret societies. We have to be careful here people. Western world and Ancient China are very ancient enemies, fighting not just over land and power, but ancient relics, knowledge and of course cultural differences.

China bailed America out as of recent. This is one to ponder.

Barrack H. Obama bowed to the Japanese Emperor in such a way that he looked as if he was powerless or knew he was powerless. The Emperor was highly disgusted and embarrassed by this act.

In my home country, the Triads have infiltrated the underground drug scene. They manufacture hash (along with many other drugs), within the hash is thousands of chemicals that are alien to the marijuana plant. Boot polish, silicone, cow pat, horse manure, plastic and many more.

If Rothschild and Rockefeller and the entire 300 (and the minions of thousands) where to be assassinated; then that means TPTB would be those secret societies of the Dragon and Tiger.

Currently China has censored the Internet, not allowing private citizens to own private websites. There are many flaws within the ways of the Dragon and the Tiger. Not to mention your only allowed one child in China.

Western Powers that Be VS Eastern Powers that Are?

Would you want the current powers that be to fall by the hands of these new powers that be? Well, it would work to a certain extent. Then We The People would have to take down this new Tyrant. What is worse?

Welcome to the Grand Chessboard.

EDIT: Ever sit back and think that maybe Western world (America and UK) where playgrounds to experiment with various projects? Maybe the very fact that We The People as of the last 60 years have been able to expose certain things TPTB are doing? Sometimes, it seems too easy, and that is another factor we should be aware of. It is too convenient.

Imagine China and Japan talking to each other, specifically about world resources. They would probably state how much the "ignorant" Western World consumes too much resources, even though they claim to be against depopulation; the very fact they only allow 1 child per family is an oxymoron. Although maybe part of a bigger plan. If China where not to have this law, ALL their resources would be gone by now and instead of USA and UK on their knees to China it would be the other way around.

China seem to be keeping a lid on things because they are preparing for something. A "resource" war. China keep their cards close to their chest, they know how to fool the white man (generalization/TPTB). Imagine if China's truth seekers had their own websites...exploiting the destruction of the western secret societies while thinking they are doing a favor for the world.

A very dense topic, very dense.

China have more ancient morals than any other country in the world, they respect their ancestors which I completely agree with. This would be the only positive thing about the China take over. Although, in history they have slaughtered millions and the poor are POOR and the rich are RICH. China is the New World Order, we just dont see it because we have not grew up there and witnessed the changes throughout its history.

When you think about it, they have the most advanced silicone technology, all the futuristic ideologies come from Asia (mainly not specifically).

S&F for the OP

EDIT: (Added more text)

[edit on 30/12/2009 by the_denv]

OK, sounds good to me, but don't forget Oppenheimer (AngloAmerican/deBeers/ANC prime funder/questionable Pan Am 103 situations?) along with the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers. Out of interest, we seem to have a trend with Fat Albert leaning towards the CFR/Bilderberger/IMF axis, but I wonder if Maurice Strong, who is now a Chinese national living in Beijing is still onside as a Bilderberger plant, double agent or has come down fully onside with the Chinese? Maurice would never tell me of course, as we haven't talked since 1990 when he was in charge of Ontario Hydro but it's just a little food for thought since IMHO, Maurice only looks out for Maurice...

Inquiring minds want to know ;-)

Cheers - Dave

[edit on 12/30.2009 by bobs_uruncle]

I appreciate you bringing this to our attention. Great first thread indeed! This could mean some very monumental changes could be heading our way. Perhaps the world is awakening, and we are entering a new age.

I have heard that these family's and the global elite are rapidly losing power throughout the world, and will no longer be able to exercise their reigns of control upon society anymore. Their funds are running low, and they no longer are able to sustain the power they once had on the masses. If so this is great, and perhaps we can get back on the right track for ourselves, civilization, and this planet.

And just a side note, I appreciate your honesty and integrity supporting what you intend this thread to be. The restriction of ignorance. But nonetheless, unfortunately we are a society governed by such and it will most likely leak in hear. Just rightfully preparing you for the flaming wars here on ATS. Again thanks for bringing this to our attention.

However I disagree I believe these secret societies are controlled by the very same force that controlled the illuminati