Ron Paul suggests 'agenda' to expand terror war, attack American liberty, page 1
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Topic started on 30-12-2009 @ 02:07 PM by DimensionalDetective

Ron Paul suggests 'agenda' to expand terror war, attack American liberty


rawstory.com
"I am concerned what they are going to do to the American people," he said. And by "they," he meant U.S. leaders.

"They’ll add some more security on to us," Paul explained. "First they make us take off our shoes and then our belts and then small bottles of water and put our computers in a tray and on and on so something else is going to happen, they won’t let us get out of our seats or look at our bags, thinking that’s going to make us a lot safer."

"The bigger the problem and the more the fear is built up, the more they take away our personal liberties and turn us all into zombies and the American people go along with it and say, ' as long as it makes us safer I guess it's okay to go along'
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[edit on 30-12-2009 by DimensionalDetective]


reply posted on 30-12-2009 @ 02:14 PM by OpTiMuS_PrImE



reply posted on 30-12-2009 @ 02:25 PM by ModernAcademia
flagged of course as it was my duty to do so!



The above video is the one he made right before the video above my post.
He also references this video in that video!

Thanks DD, how come your not around so often anymore?

peace


reply posted on 30-12-2009 @ 02:28 PM by poedxsoldiervet
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Another excellent comment by Ron Paul, Man to bad we slept on this guy in 08, he could be the President.


reply posted on 30-12-2009 @ 03:13 PM by frankensence
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Another excellent comment by Ron Paul, Man to bad we slept on this guy in 08, he could be the President.


Too bad the GOP will never let RP get past their primaries. Ever. The GOP and the Dems are two sides of the same coin, and RP does not fit into their plans. If he goes independent he'll end like Nader, just another "kook" sitting on the sidelines.


reply posted on 30-12-2009 @ 03:59 PM by pumpkinorange
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Agree. Wake up from your slumber Americans.
Even conspiracies aside, the lazy bureaucrat reponse to anything is ALWAYS CYA="more". More money, more regulation, more tyranny thrown in lieu of examining and fixing the problem.
Here's a new article re body scanners on order for O'Hare.
Excerpt:
"The scanners were planned well in advance of the unsuccessful Christmas Day bombing attempt on board a Detroit-bound plane."

www.nbcchicago.com...


reply posted on 30-12-2009 @ 04:12 PM by whoshotJR
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It's funny because many obama bashers will go 1 of 2 ways. They say he won't act because he is a wuss or that he is a war monger worse then bush and plans on overtaking the world with more wars.

Isn't it nuts how far perceptions can be of the same person? I'm not saying you are in either of these camps but it made me think of it.

I would agree that things will probably get worse and the US will spin it because they need a good real war right now.


reply posted on 30-12-2009 @ 04:38 PM by whoshotJR
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So do you think we should have no security measures in place for planes then? Maybe we don't need police also? We could start really young and just let our kids do w/e they please also.

I also didn't realize that being able to ride a plane was a civil liberty.



reply posted on 30-12-2009 @ 04:46 PM by OpTiMuS_PrImE
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#1 Your lying what he fights for is truth and freedom which can be seen with your own eyes.

#2 If we are taking notice of this we are not sheep.

#3 Your a dis-info tard

Cry and say what else you like its the truth and you cannot defeat it.


reply posted on 30-12-2009 @ 04:54 PM by lpowell0627
Originally posted by whoshotJR
Although I generally agree with him on almost everything I don't really agree here.

Flying is not a right so if people don't like security measures they can just not fly. They have so many other ways they are taking away our freedoms I don't really count this as a way to turn us into zombies.

Will this make us any safer on airlines? Probably not but maybe. I'm all for the scanners that you walk passed and they can see through your clothing. I wouldn't mind shocking some of the security anyway


You're forgetting one thing -- it only starts at the airport. What happens when they blow up a building in LA or NYC by simply walking into it with a bomb attached? What happens when they blow up a cruise ship or sneak in through our ports? What about the subway?

The problem with the start of taking away our rights, is it only gets worse from here. So, OK....flying is a privelege. Is taking the subway to work? Is riding on the bus?

How long do you really think it's going to be before something else blows up? People in the US are getting a little wacky due to the stresses and pressures of the recession. From there, it doesn't take a lot to gather momentum of the crazy kind.

If someone wants to murder someone else, and is willing to kill themselves in the process, there is really very little you can do to prevent it altogether. Delay it? Yes. Expose it? Yes. Prevent it forever? Unlikely.

How many of our freedoms are we going to give away before realizing that there is no way to make the United States 100% safe? Then what -- you think we'll just get them back????


reply posted on 30-12-2009 @ 05:15 PM by oneclickaway
Ron Paul is one of the few that one could consider a good guy…and he should run for President.

What shocks me is how many on this site and others like it…conspiracy sites…have fallen for this, hook line and sinker. They believe that even with supposedly heightened security since 9/11...excuse me while I laugh hysterically….that one lone, simple, mentally challenged Nigerian, with or without a passport (allegedly), whose father had told the authorities about him (allegedly), who was on a extremist list (allegedly)…managed to get onto a plane with no luggage(allegedly), paying for his ticket by cash etc, (allegedly). It is so laughable that one wonders who makes this stuff up. The disgusting hatred that I have seen of Moslems since this ‘event’ is shocking. Wake the hell up, people.

Rather than attacking Yemen and placing intrusive and possibly unconstitutional full body scanners to take shots of people’s genitals…the first thing that would or should be done if this were for real, if it wasn’t conveniently filmed, and if there wasn’t an apparent ‘handler’ around, would be to fire every single person who allowed this kid through the airport and onto a plane. There should be dozens of sackings…anyone heard anything about that? Of course not…they all played their parts admirably and will probably be promoted before the year end…lol

And to those who are squealing about how it is not a ‘right’ to fly…what sort of drugs are you on? Flying is not a damn privilege. The airlines are a business who provide a service to paying customers, without whom (and therein lies a clue to how to tackle infringement of liberties) they would go bust. If the paying customers do not like the way they are acting they can and should vote with their feet.

Whichever airline allowed this charade to take place on its flight should now be boycotted (if there was any justice in this world) so that they go out of business, as they have clearly shown that they are incapable of securing their flights with the most BASIC of security checks…an incident easily averted by maybe simply checking lists…lol…if any of this were remotely real of course. Mind you none of the 9/11 supposed hijackers seem to have appeared on any passenger lists…things that make you go hmmm.

Every single flyer should refuse to go through one of these full body scanners…unless of course they get to see any one of the staff that they wish to see naked first. That could while away a few hours while waiting for a flight. All flyers should insist on decent security carried out by airport staff and not infringing their own liberties.
But all these fools…especially the gutless young it seems, will queue up and beg to be shackled, constrained and spied on, so brainwashed are they. It must be the food and the video games.
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