reply to post by joey_hv
A lot of the comments I read at the number reporting site, I can tell you sound like bill collectors, and some even perhaps phone solicitors.
Here is their MO. They spoof calls to hide their proper dialing location. When I inquired with my phone company, I was told the way they do it is
legal. They will call in on a bank of numbers that appear to be random, but if you collect enough records, you will see the calls are indeed from a
bank. The dialer or whatever program they are using seems to pick a random number from that available bank.
They call to see if they get a live answer. If a person answers the phone, the call disconnects in a few moments, and the recorded confirmation goes
to a live person at a later time. This tactic used to be used a lot when telephone solicitation was legal, before the Do No t Call List came out. It
is still in use to create "live" phone lists that companies sell, much like spam mailers do with live email addresses.
For a bill collector, they will call and determine if someone is home, then again, call back at a later time from a legitimate number, and try to
speak to you or leave messages. The prefer to not leave messages, however, and simply hang up, because if they leave a message, it counts as their one
contact per day allowed by law. They would rather keep flooding your phone until they get a live response.
If you attempt to block the number, they will simply redial you, grabbing another number from the phone bank, every couple of minutes. I literally sat
there and started adding every call to my block list until it was full, then starting at the top, deleting the blocks. Eventually, the computer would
come around to retrying the blocked numbers again.
They will show on caller ID as follows:
Caller ID#: 954-XXX-XXXX
No Caller ID Name
By the simple fact they show the number is how they legally get away with it, though there is no real connection if you redial the number back. It is
a phone line to nowhere.
I was recently subjected to an issue such as this where I recieved anywhere from 30-40 or more phone calls a day, sometimes just minutes apart. I
would let the machine get the call if I did not recognize the number.
When they got the machine, they would call back 3 or 4 times from undiscernable/unreachable numbers, then call from a legitimate number and leave a
message. It is in this way they are now allowed to call more than is legally allowed, which IIRC by the Fair Credit Act, is once per day between the
hours of 8 am and 9 pm.
If you have more than one person trying to reach you, you can easily rake in 40, 50, 60 calls per day. I literally got calls about every 4 minutes.
The instant I answered one of the robo calls with a live voice (their compuuters can tell if it is live or a machine with a signal sent from the
machine when it picks up the call), the robo call would disconnect, and less than a minute later, a bill collector would call. If I didn't answer the
phone, they would hang up and bombard me with the robo calls.
In some instances, the person sitting at the rrobo dialer will actually listen in, not sure if this is due to not being able to afford a totally
computerized system, or when they get frustrated enough trying to reach you they make a live person make note of the call results. I noticed this
happened more when I would get the call, pick up and say nothing, and hang up. They would call right back, and I could hear the breathing and typing
I ended up totally blocking out all incoming calls, and using a filter to only allow in the calls I wished to recieve. Then, I got a cell phone.
I was subjected to horrible phone harrassment as outlined above, for almpst a year. And there was nothing that I could do about it. They had the wrong
person, and no matter what I would say or do, they would not stop.
Now my home phone only allows in 12 calls from numbers I have to put on a list, and outgoing calls.
Plain and simple, whoever is getting calls from these numbers, there is a bill collector trying to reach you.