Iranian Supreme Leader Khameneis Jet Put on Standby

Originally posted by JJay55

Originally posted by die_another_day
You have to be smoking to think that the CIA has nothing to do with this.


I think the CIA helped to ignite and strengthen these movements since the beginning of talks about invading Iran.

I have a couple of questions for you.
1. why would the US invade Iran?
2. is the CIA evil?

1. OIL
2. your kiddin right is that some type of new internet joke they have killed many people and of course they killed their own people !

Originally posted by TheCoffinman
reply to post by aspx

 

20% percent huh, did u see my post above yours?? where do you get ur numbers?? ur just spewing out numbers with no hard evidence...

of course I'm spewing out numbers with no hard evidence, you freaking communist there is nothing wrong with that. i picked 80% and 20 due to small amounts of Islamic people that control Iranian government, and those protesters are also against Islamic rulers

reply to post by RedGolem


nope, im saying that if this is a popular uprising not being formente by the west, that americans should take some notes cause at least the iranians have some nuts to stand up for themselves.

however, i do not believe this to be the case (see bbc article)

The rallies - reportedly organised by the government - were a response to the opposition demonstrations on Sunday.

The offensive slogans have made the pious Iranian nation sad and the Zionist world happy," the government said in a statement.

It described the opposition as "pawns of the enemies" who "have furnished a red carpet for the foreigners who aiming at the nation's security".

i have to agree with them here... you dont see the pro-government marchers starting fires and throwing rocks do you... who are the violent ones here? the 20% who dont support the government who are rich, liberal, western backed trouble makers...

Originally posted by aspx

Originally posted by JJay55

Originally posted by die_another_day
You have to be smoking to think that the CIA has nothing to do with this.


I think the CIA helped to ignite and strengthen these movements since the beginning of talks about invading Iran.

I have a couple of questions for you.
1. why would the US invade Iran?
2. is the CIA evil?

1. OIL
2. your kiddin right is that some type of new internet joke

they have killed many people and of course they killed their own people !

we killed our own people too... remember kent state?? yeah, same government then as today...

I question what specific nation will take in these Iranian leaders in and then offer them refugee status if they lose control of their government. In fact is makes me ponder the same question about Obama if he and for instance Nancy Pelosi were to flee the nation for a country that would harbor and offer safe relocation from the angry mobs of America trying to lynch them for crimes against the people of America. While this possiblity is an interesting thought I have no doubt that Hugo Chavez or Castro will take in Obama and Nancy if the heat ever got so bad they had to flee in one of Nancy Pelosi's many tax payer purchased executive jets to escape the rath of angry patriots and true Americans wanting to hold Obama and his corrupt regime accountable for their crimes and actions against the nation.

The Iranian leaders are perhaps over extended in todays modern technological era, but they should not be counted out as incapable of causing trouble from where ever they end up. At home in Iran it will also be important to see what transpires in the new Iran aftermath. How and who will take over raises many issues and concerns for long term strategic purposes, but if my suspicions are correct, we have a plan or strategy already worked out in the event of a regime change. I just wonder what it looks like and how it will fit into the NWO move towards a global government.

Overall I think that being prepared to depart the nation in the event of a regime collapse is just what we are seeing from those at the top in Iran. What we should ensure is that when the jet takes off that it never lands. It should mysteriously dissapear into the ocean never to be seen or found again. Only then could we begin anew without the meddling of old tyrants out of power hold up somewhere in luxury like France where the old Khamene held out until we helped him come back to power in Iran.

Oh well, time will tell but the present actions of Irans leaders appear prudent and perhaps a good decision on their part because if not we will no doubt see the Iranian leaders swinging from a pole, lynched by their own citizens for crimes which the people of Iran only know too well. The potential coverage of Irans leaders being lynched by angry Iranian mobs may make some in the Obama regime twitch with glee, but it also fearfully reminds the Obama players what can happen to them if they are not careful with their destruction of our financial system and the undermining of the dollar. Politicians being dragged by an angry mob to their death may be interesting to watch, but I can assure you the Obama regime fears that what happens to the Iranian leaders could very well happen to them. As such the Obama regime will proceed cautiously and with some other nation taking the lead. Time will tell and I for one cant wait to see what transpires not only in Iran, but more importantly in Washington, DC. by the minions of the criminal Obama gangster regime trying to usher in a communist, socialist, maoist, fascist system desired only by the likes of the Democratic Socialist Party of America, led by Obama the illegal president of the United States of America.

What we should ponder is whether Americans will be outdone by angry Iranians. I think not and if I am correct, what happens in Iran may very well be the fuse that lights up American resistence to Obamas push towards fascist socialism. If Iranians begin to fight and drag their politicians to justice, it may very well be the best example Americans will get in determining how to end a corrupt government here in America and the Obama and Democratic traitors know this fact only too well to ignore this point.

Originally posted by TheCoffinman
reply to post by RedGolem

 

nope, im saying that if this is a popular uprising not being formente by the west, that americans should take some notes cause at least the iranians have some nuts to stand up for themselves.

however, i do not believe this to be the case (see bbc article)

But hey! I think you are making a biig mistake here!

Of course the foreign military services is involved in this uprising, but you should know that a small part of the Iranians in Iran also welcomes this involvment in very special circumstances to a a very small certain degree!

But knowing the Anglo-Saxons In their hearts, they want to solve this their own way!

And of course Britain, USA, Israel and the military complexes are sheit worried now when the Iranian people & regular army wants to solve this by their own way - imagine what a lot of dollars these bandits of the Anglo-Saxons and Israeli's are missing out when they can not go to war against Iran! - if the Iranian people now would fix these problem themselves?


[edit on 30-12-2009 by Chevalerous]

Rueters is going farther...

Hundreds of thousands of government supporters rallied across Iran on Wednesday, swearing allegiance to the clerical establishment and accusing opposition leaders of causing unrest in the Islamic state.

www.reuters.com...

so what r the estimates of opposition protest numbers? from what ive seen on tv, its in the hundreds... they dont really show much more than hundreds burning shops, cars, throwing things etc... theres a picture montage on the link showing the hundreds of thousands of government supporters so there is no doubting the number...

Originally posted by TheCoffinman
Rueters is going farther...

Hundreds of thousands of government supporters rallied across Iran on Wednesday, swearing allegiance to the clerical establishment and accusing opposition leaders of causing unrest in the Islamic state.

www.reuters.com...

so what r the estimates of opposition protest numbers? from what ive seen on tv, its in the hundreds... they dont really show much more than hundreds burning shops, cars, throwing things etc... theres a picture montage on the link showing the hundreds of thousands of government supporters so there is no doubting the number...

Of course this disinformation must come from the west in this moment!

Don't you understand if a successful revolution in Iran by the people would succed - they would destroy the west's war plans - the Western miltary complexes would be without profits! - and the western poiticians would never to be able to fix the economy,unemployment numbers & further their grip with the NWO agenda in the western Europe!

This war would solve all of these questions temporarily at least - to buy them some more time! - before we are seeing a western European revolution! - which is much overdue by the way, I must say!

O'boy! some people here are a laugh!

Vive la révolution

[edit on 30-12-2009 by Chevalerous]

reply to post by Chevalerous


i dk chev, i think thats a bit of a stretch there, your flip-flopping...

Iranian police said on Wednesday that they are still holding 300 of the 500 "rioters" they arrested at the weekend when opposition supporters staged protests during a Shiite religious commemoration.

www.google.com...

like i said, hundreds...

your theory is flawed because we are still in iraq, in afghanistan, we just opened a new can of worms in yemen... we have plenty of war to deal with...

[edit on 30-12-2009 by TheCoffinman]

The Mujahedin-e-Khalq Organization (MKO) has acknowledged that it played a role in Sunday's violent anti-government protests in Iran.

MKO followers cooperated with the demonstrators and coordinated the protests, the organization's leader Maryam Rajavi told AFP in Paris on Tuesday

www.presstv.ir...

the MKO is a western backed organization whose aims are to overthrow the iraninan government...

www.globalsecurity.org...

Originally posted by TheCoffinman
reply to post by Chevalerous

 

i dk chev, i think thats a bit of a stretch there, your flip-flopping...

Iranian police said on Wednesday that they are still holding 300 of the 500 "rioters" they arrested at the weekend when opposition supporters staged protests during a Shiite religious commemoration.

www.google.com...

like i said, hundreds...

your theory is flawed because we are still in iraq, in afghanistan, we just opened a new can of worms in yemen... we have plenty of war to deal with...

[edit on 30-12-2009 by TheCoffinman]

I don't know so much about Afghanistan right now, beside what my former fellow soldiers are telling me each week by phone from there - from their point of view I may add!

But hey! I lived in Iran once during 19 months and have visited the country several times after that and still have very nice good friends there, and since I went to the Tehran American School in Tehran together with a bunch of American kids in the 1970's - we still together have many eyes & ears on the target.

I still have some very good friends there you know! - and the dictatorship is hopefully FINALLY shaken in the deep roots of its existence!

But of course, don't let my happiness hinder you to listen to western or pro dictatorship propaganda!

This problem is too damn complicated to understand for most of us.

But maybe, just a little more violence from this illegal and criminal dictatorship, and they will (If God is great) be history!

Vive la révolution and if God is good, London will be next!


Edit: I just saw that I had a U2U up there in the corner and thought; GOSH! could it had been applause from some kindly hearted MOD - But NO! - it was my first FOE ADD! from CoffinMan!

I think I laugh my self to death - what's next?

This is my birthday as well! C'idiot! who could have thought?

And btw! I was just on the phone with my mum in Thailand, and she told me that we were living there 19 months while my dad was working there for a European company.


[edit on 30-12-2009 by Chevalerous]

Originally posted by aspx
1. OIL

Really? Think about this for a moment. If this was only about oil, the last thing that the US would want to do is to invade Iran. All the US would have to do is to bomb Iran. Take out Iran's oil production facilities and what would happen to the price of oil? It would sky rocket. About 100 Tomahawks would do it. Actually if this was about oil, the last thing anybody would want is a stable government in Iran. Every time Iran shoots it's mouth off, the price of oil rises. The production costs don't rise, just the sale price. That rise is pure PROFIT. The more instability, the more the price fluctuates, the more PROFIT is generated.

reply to post by Chevalerous


i believe it says "respected foe" .... show some maturity

www.cnn.com...

Originally posted by TheCoffinman
reply to post by Chevalerous

 

i believe it says "respected foe" .... show some maturity

www.cnn.com...

Hey! in that case you should not talk about maturity!

How damn mature is it to add someone as a foe? - it's childish my friend!

And if you don't understand that? maybe you need to grow up a little)

This situation seems to stink of western influence. I wonder which economic hitman they sent in this time. It is fairly easy to pay an angry mob to revolt in the streets , film it and portray it on MSM that the whole country is in a state of revolution. This is classic economic terrorism.
Let the country destroy itself from within, paint it to the world as chaotic and in a state of revolution. Next step is to move in UN peacemakers?
I never know what to make of the Iranian's plight, but my spidey senses tell me not all is as it seems to be.

[edit on 30-12-2009 by nepafogo]

What we are witnessing is the first shaky step of the global awakening. TPB time is running out is this is the beginning.

If the CIA could take credit for this, it would be all over the main stream western media with the call to action that "The time to invade Iran is now."

This story is not being covered by our media for precisely the opposite reason. This is a HEARTFELT popular uprising by citizens who are sick and tired of being oppressed and they have reached a collective realization that they indeed have the power. They are finally reacting to that realization.

Our western governments are freaking out wondering if it could happen in the United States or England.

Iranians are intelligent, cultured and proud people fully cognizant of their rich Persian history. They are not ignorant, illiterate Arabs a couple generations removed from dwelling in tents in the desert.

Listen to educated people around you. People who never used to talk about politics and public affairs are suddenly informed and becoming more furious every day. Better yet, the mind numbing propaganda we have all been subjected to is no longer working as well as it used to.

This is just the beginning. Once the attention of the clueless masses is grabbed, it is going to get really interesting.

sky news reports that Musavi has fled

reply to post by RedGolem


It would be good of course for the Iranian people but i feel not so good for the Russian people... do they want this guy in Russia?

Originally posted by zarp3333
What we are witnessing is the first shaky step of the global awakening. TPB time is running out is this is the beginning.

If the CIA could take credit for this, it would be all over the main stream western media with the call to action that "The time to invade Iran is now."

This story is not being covered by our media for precisely the opposite reason. This is a HEARTFELT popular uprising by citizens who are sick and tired of being oppressed and they have reached a collective realization that they indeed have the power. They are finally reacting to that realization.

I agree, and was a bit confused by some of the above posts. Especially those stating that there are hundreds of thousands of government supporters, and almost no opposition---which TO me sounds an awful like the opposition is scarce because most are afraid of what the government will do to them if they rebel. I would be hard placed to state what i would do in the situation, but I happen to know a bit about human psychology, and I know that status quo and being part of the norm is a survival tactic. If someone said, join me or I'll kill your children, I might be more than tempted to do as they say.