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posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 04:09 PM
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Dang! Whadd I miss?


Lay down for a bit and all this happened?
Wow! Great links and advice too!
Thanks!

Dont forget the duct tape and the trash bags!
They work for many things and they pack well!
Some stuff I ran into:
www.utahpreppers.com... (speaking of the lds)
www.urbansurvival.com...


In today's world the accepted means of communications is the cell phone, second would be the Internet. But what happens when there's no power to run the cell towers or the data centers for the 'Net? You think this couldn't happen nowadays. Think back to the time when Hurricane Katrina devastated Louisiana and Mississippi and you'll see the cell phones and Internet networks were down due to the loss of power. Even back-up generators began to fail due to lack of fuel, the oddball part here was there wasn't any power to run the pumps at the gas stations so no one could by any gas or fuel for their generators. So it all simply stopped working, people stranded in buildings and on buildings trying to communicate with the rest of the world. But they were unable to do so. Would you want to find yourself in similar circumstances? Bug out bag in one hand, dead cell phone in the other.

www.ukhunters.com...
www.survivalacres.com...


[edit on 30-12-2009 by dodadoom]




posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 04:43 PM
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I think maybe you did not understand what I was saying. The worst natural disaster in a 1st world would be maybe a week of supplies. I am talking long term drop of the grid and start over kind of thing. While the tsunamis where bad it still was only a couple weeks unless you needed to stay but if you could leave you could find food and shelter.

Also to comment on a brain is more important than a gun I agree but if you are actually preparing ahead I think the brain part is covered. So I will say it again a gun is by far the most important thing to get first with it you can get everything else. To say a knife is more important is just like the 150 year old saying dont bring a knife to a gun fight. When I decided to get prepared this was my list of importance

1--Guns & ammo

2-- Water filtration and get more than one source just in case

3-- Heavy duty army 4 shell sleeping systems

4--Fire starting items also get more than 1 get 10

5--Knives also get more than 1 this one is important

6--Military guide books and edible plant books also for your area

6--Backpacks heavy duty Alice packs

7--Army poncho with the liner can be used as a tent

8--Heavy duty 4 season tent this one is expensive

9--Heirloom seeds enough for a growing season

10--I also have alot of food canned and dry just in case I cant hunt \

I listed 10 items I Have many more but I think you get the picture and also remember it is good to have family and friends be part of the plan but to be honest if you are planning for that week event you can do it for much less. Like I said I have never ever thought about surviving up until 9 months ago it was like something drove me to be prepared. I just don't get it?



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 05:10 PM
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I have a question for anybody that was in the Air Force or who would know the answer to this possibly.
I live about a mile from what was a highly functional Air Force base at one time. Now with all the cuts I think it is probably only reserve troops that go there on weekends. It had long runways I do remember this.
Anyhow I was wondering when this base was operational it would have been so during the height of the Cold War and the threat of nuclear weapons. So, would they have built underground bunkers for such an event and if so how would I find this out if I even could. I was just wondering if in case TSHF. The name of the base fully operational was Lockbourne Air Force Base. It is now called Rickenbacker Port Authority



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 08:21 PM
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Great list ST!



I, I imagine the food would taste horrid
if theres any still there!



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 11:41 PM
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Have been a prepper / survivalist for over 35 years now and still going... have lots of food, guns, a well trained and dedicated group that will all meet up if we have to and then off to the retreat that was built 10 years back (completed anyways) ...



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 11:43 PM
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Here is a very good master list that any person can add onto for their own useage and needs...


FOOD

Red Feather canned cheese and butter
Yoders canned meat
Rice
Dried beans and lentils
Salt
Water containers
Water filters
water purification substances
Canned and powdered milk
Canned veggies
Canned soup
Ramen noodles
Canned fruit
Dehydrated onions
Pepper
Dehydrated garlic
Any spice you are fond of
Coffee instant last forever and will be a great trade item
tons of bottles of water- can be refilled or traded.
Mre's
Instant pancake mix(just add water)
snack packs of pudding(they have a good shelf life)
water enhancers(gator aid mix, ice tea, coco)
treats (brownies,rock candy) big morale booster
dried sauce packets




TOOLS

Pocket knife
Eating Utensils
Cast iron cookware
Fuel jugs
Fasteners (nuts, bolts, screws, nails)
NOAA AM/FM hand crank radio
Flashlights - all sizes
Lanterns
5 gallon buckets
Tarps
spare plugs for
vehicles
chain saw
4wheelers
gennies
motorcycle
oil for each machine
2 cycle oil
goodly supply of Stabil
gaskets set(s)
filters for each machine
spare bars and saw chains for saws
sawchain sharpening equipment
pull starter ropes (could be improvised)
wire or sticks for welder
Katadyn Pocket Water Filter(expensive -yes- best value- by far)
-Camp Stove( I like the duel fuel so you can syphone unleaded out of that abandoned car)
Latern that runs on same fuel as stove
compass, maps of area
binoculars or spotting scope or telescope can be improvised.
axe, shovel, pick , sledge hammer and other etc tools
Emergency radio
Emergency communications
12v battery backup power
Solar charger for above
fire extinguishers
machete
Hand Auger and bits
chisels
old timey two man crosscut saw
splitting maul
Draw knife
E-tool
fishing tackle
fishing rod and hooks
small solar panels and deep cycle batteries and an even smaller solar charger for recharging D's to aaa's.
Hand pump
2 liter Platypus Big Zip
hatchet or tomahawk




CONSUMABLES

Duct tape
Gasoline
Diesel
Alcohol
Dish detergent
Baking soda
Seeds
Batteries
Lantern mantles, repair kits, extra globes
White gas, propane, keorsene
550 cord
Bleach
Borax
Vinegar
Windex
glow sticks
zip lock baggies
barbed wire, plywood
Tobacco
electrical tape
paper towels
Remmington oil
Trash Bags (Large)
Trash Bags (Small)
Powdered Bleach
Powdered Lime
Disposable gloves
Zip ties
Tea candles
paper like hepa masks





TOILETRIES

Toilet paper
Soap
Shampoo
Female products as required
Solar Camping Shower - 5 Gallon
SCENT killer from the hunting section
Portable Toilet


FIRE STARTERS

Waterproof matches
Strike anywhere matches
Bic lighters
Flints
Fresnel lense
Magnesium stick
Dryer lint
Vaseline soaked cotton balls
Commercial compressed fire starting sticks
Blaster match fire starter


CLOTHING

Wool socks
Boots
Rain gear- gortex or similar
hat- good full brim hat, stocking cap- beenie for cold nights
good gloves, work and cold weather
sunglassess
windup watch

MEDICAL/HEALTH/FIRST AID

Vitamins
Peroxide
Gauze
Tape
Band aids
Children strength OTC meds
OTC pain meds and fever reducers
Tums
Sunscreen
Ace Bandage
Adhesive Tape
Alcohol (isopropyl/rubbing)
Antibacterial Gel
Chemical Heat Pack
Chemical Ice Pack
Cleaning Solution Contacts
Cotton Balls
Disinfectant Liquid
Disinfectant Spray
Disposable Towels
Extra Large Band-Aids
Eye Wash
First Aid Kit(s) (Field)
First Aid Kit(s) (Main)
First Aid Manual
Gauze
Hand Soap (Disinfectant)
Q-Tips
Sachets Of Alcohol-Based Hand Sanitizing Gel
Scrubber Sponges
Strong Thread
Surgical Needles
Tweezers
Unbreakable Thermometer
Waterless Shampoo
Waterless Soap
Triangular Bandages
2" Roll Bandages
3" Roll Bandages
2" Gauze Pads
4" Gauze Pads
Cloth or Duct Tape
Chemical Cold Packs
Scissors
Pocket CPR Mask
Petroleum Jelly
Tongue Depressors
Safety Pins
Aspirin
DEET Repellent
Antacid
Laxative
Activated Charcoal
Anti-diarrhea Meds


BEDDING

Wool Blankets

LEISURE/REFERENCE

Crayons coloring books
Puzzles
Age appropiate toys
Playing cards
Books
Board games
Crossword puzzles
Bibles
education materials
acoustic instrument like a guitar or harmonica

A Field Guide to Edible Wild Plants: Eastern and central North America (Peterson Field Guide)
A Field Guide to Edible Wild Plants: Eastern and central North America (Peterson Field Guides)
A Field Guide to Mushrooms: North America (Peterson Field Guides
American College of Emergency Physicians First Aid Manual, Secondedition
Basic Butchering of Livestock & Game
Basic Homebrewing: All the Skills and Tools You Need to Get Started
Book for Midwives: A Manual for Traditional Birth Attendants and Community Midwives
Boy Scouts of America Fieldbook
Brew Ware: How to Find, Adapt & Build Homebrewing Equipment
Butchering, Processing and Preservation of Meat
Christians Will go Through the Tribulation and How to Prepare For it
Country Wisdom & Know-How
Crisis Preparedness Handbook: A Complete Guide to Home Storage and Physical Survival
DeLorme State Topographic Atlas
Ditch Medicine : Advanced Field Procedures for Emergencies
Emergency Food Storage & Survival Handbook: Everything You Need to Know to Keep Your Family Safe in a Crisis
Everything First Aid Book: How to Handle Falls and Breaks, Choking, Cuts and Scrapes, Insect Bites and Rashes, Burns, Poisoning, and When to Call 911 (Everything Series)
Extraordinary Uses for Ordinary Things: 2,317 Ways to Save Money and Time
Fieldcraft Reference Book
First Aid for Babies & Children Fast
Folk Remedies: Healing Wisdom of Days Gone By
Gardening When It Counts: Growing Food in Hard Times
Handy Farm Devices And How to Make Them
Identifying and Harvesting Edible and Medicinal Plants in Wild (and Not So Wild) Places
Medicinal Minerals Reference Books
New Fix-It-Yourself Manual: How to Repair, Clean, and Maintain Anything and Everything In and Around Your Home
North American Mushrooms: A Field Guide to Edible and Inedible Fungi (Falconguide)
Nutritional Herbology : A Reference Guide to Herbs
Prescription for Herbal Healing: An Easy-to-Use A-Z Reference to Hundreds of Common Disorders and Their Herbal Remedies
Recipe Book(s)
SAS Survival Handbook: How to Survive in the Wild, in Any Climate, on Land or at Sea
Skills for Simple Living
Smart Soapmaking: The Simple Guide to Making Traditional Handmade Soap Quickl Safely, and Reliably, or How to Make Luxurious Handcrafted Soaps for Family, Friends, and Yourself
Sneaky Uses for Everyday Things: How to Turn a Penny into a Radio, Make a Flood Alarm with an Aspirin, Change Milk into Plastic, Extract Water and Electricity ... a TV with Your Ring, and Other Amazing Feats
Survivalist's Medicine Chest
The American Red Cross First Aid and Safety Handbook
The Boy Mechanic: 200 Classic Things to Build
The Doctors Book of Herbal H Remedies: Cure Yourself with Nature's Most Powerful Healing Agents
The Doctors Book of Home Remedies Revised Edition
The Doctor's Desk Reference of Remedies and Cures Volume 1
The Forager's Harvest: A Guide to Identifying, Harvesting, and Preparing Edible Wild Plants
The Herbal Medicine Maker's Handbook: A Home Manual
Topo Maps of your area and areas you may travel in or to
U.S. Army Special Forces Medical Handbook/st 31-91B
Veterinary Guide for Animal Owners
Where There Is No Dentist
Where There Is No Doctor: A Village Health Care Handbook
Wild Plants & Fungus Reference Books

ADMINISTRATIVE

Copies of important documents (birth certificate, SSC, car titles, ect..) digital or hard copy
*Drivers License
*Credit Cards
*Bank Records
*Passport
*Medical Records
*Titles/Deeds
*Wills
*Birth Records
*Marriage License
*Insurance Policies
*Social Security Card
Cash
family values media
Spare keys for everything you can think of. Vehicles, house, ATV's, outbuildings, all of your padlocks and anything else you can think of.





Pet Kit:

Pet food and bowls
Pet supplements and treats
Pet medication
Petzlife (dental gel removes tartar and treats gingivitis - REALLY WORKS!)
Secure locking travel cases and/or leashes
Herbal Geranium Pet Bug Spray (wards off fleas, ticks naturally)
Pet nail trimmers
Flea/tick comb
Pet sweater/coat/boots (for extreme cold and ice)
Vet records



ADDENDUM courtesy of TOWcritter

ARMS.....1.....22 RIFLE.....FAMILY.....
AMMO.....1000.....22 LR .....FAMILY.....
ARMS.....1.....SHOT GUN 12 OR 20 GUAGE PUMP .....FAMILY.....
AMMO.....200.....BUCK AND BIRD SHOT 100 EACH.....FAMILY.....
AMMO.....50.....SLUG.....FAMILY.....
ARMS.....MIN 2.....AMMO POUCHES.....FIELD PERSONEL.....
ARMS.....1.....BATTLE RIFLE223/308/762-39 30CARB.....PERSON.....
ARMS.....7.....MAGAZINES FOR EACH RIFLE.....FIELD PERSONEL.....
AMMO.....1000.....RIFLE AMMO.....PERSON.....
ARMS.....1.....SIDEARM 9MM/45 /357-38.....PERSON .....
AMMO.....500.....PISTOL - REVOLVER AMMO.....PERSON.....
ARMS.....4.....PISTOL FOR EACH MAGAZINES.....PERSON.....
ARMS.....4.....SPEED LOADERS PER REVOLVER
ARMS.....2.....SPEED LOADER POUCH.....


COMMO.....2.....GRMS RADIOS 25 MILE RANGE ..........
COMMO..........WITH AAA RECHARGEABLE BATT

SECURITY.....1 ROLL.....BABRED WIRE.....FAMILY.....
FIELD GEAR.....1.....ANGEL HEAD FLASH LIGHT.....FIELD PERSONEL.....
FIELD GEAR.....1.....BDU FIELD JACKET.....FIELD PERSONEL.....
FIELD GEAR.....1.....BDU FIELD JACKET LINER.....FIELD PERSONEL.....
FIELD GEAR.....1.....BDU HAT.....FIELD PERSONEL.....
FIELD GEAR.....2.....BDU JACKET.....FIELD PERSONEL.....
FIELD GEAR.....2.....BDU PANTS.....FIELD PERSONEL.....
FIELD GEAR.....2.....CANTEENS W COVERS & CUP.....FIELD PERSONEL.....
FIELD GEAR.....1.....COMBAT KNIFE.....FIELD PERSONEL.....
FIELD GEAR.....1.....COMPASS.....FIELD PERSONEL.....
FIELD GEAR.....2.....COMPASS FIRST AID POUCHES.....FIELD PERSONEL.....
FIELD GEAR.....1.....DAY PACK/BUTT PACK.....FIELD PERSONEL.....
FIELD GEAR.....1.....FIRE STARTER.....FIELD PERSONEL.....
FIELD GEAR.....1.....FIRST AID KIT.....FIELD PERSONEL.....
FIELD GEAR.....1.....FIXED BLADE KNIFE COMBAT TYPE .....FIELD PERSONEL.....
FIELD GEAR.....1.....HOLSTER.....FIELD PERSONEL.....
FIELD GEAR.....1.....LOAD SUSPENDERS OR VEST .....FIELD PERSONEL.....
FIELD GEAR.....1.....MAGNESIUM FIRE STARTER.....FIELD PERSONEL.....
FIELD GEAR.....1.....MATCH BOX.....FIELD PERSONEL.....
FIELD GEAR.....1.....MEDIUM ALICE PACK OR EQUAL.....FIELD PERSONEL.....
FIELD GEAR.....1.....MULTI -TOOL.....FIELD PERSONEL.....
FIELD GEAR.....6 PR.....OD WOOL SOCKS.....FIELD PERSONEL.....
FIELD GEAR.....1.....PISTOL BELT.....FIELD PERSONEL.....
FIELD GEAR.....1.....POCKET KNIFE (SWISS ARMY TYPE).....FIELD PERSONEL.....
FIELD GEAR.....1.....PONCHO OD/CAMO RIPSTOP.....FIELD PERSONEL.....
FIELD GEAR.....1.....PONCHO LINER.....FIELD PERSONEL.....
FIELD GEAR.....1 PR.....QUALITY BOOTS.....FIELD PERSONEL.....
FIELD GEAR.....1.....WEBB BELT.....FIELD PERSONEL.....
FOOD.....96.....CANS MIXED VEGATABLES.....FAMILY.....
FOOD.....2 55 gal.....FOOD QUALITY DRUMS.....FAMILY.....
FOOD.....5 BOXES.....PARAFFIN.....FAMILY.....
FOOD.....20 LBS .....SALT.....FAMILY.....
FOOD.....15 LBS .....SUGAR.....FAMILY.....
FOOD.....50 LBS .....RICE.....FAMILY.....
FOOD.....20 LBS.....BEANS .....FAMILY.....
FOOD.....20 LBS.....BEANS .....FAMILY.....
FOOD .....1 LRG PACK BULION CUBES.....FAMILY.....




FUEL.....25 GAL.....DIESEL FUEL.....FAMILY.....
FUEL.....2 55 GAL .....DRUMS.....FAMILY.....
FUEL.....1 GAL.....FUEL STABLE FOR DIESEL.....FAMILY.....
FUEL.....1 GAL.....FUEL STABLE FOR GAS.....FAMILY.....
FUEL.....55 GAL.....GAS .....FAMILY.....
FUEL.....10 GAL.....KEROSENE.....FAMILY.....

HYGENE.....25.....50 GAL TRASH BAGS.....FAMILY.....
HYGENE.....6.....6 BARS SOAP.....PERSON.....
HYGENE.....6 MO.....AS NEEDED FEMALE NEEDS.....PERSON.....
HYGENE.....12.....BARS SOAP (ANTI BACTERIAL).....PERSON.....
HYGENE.....3.....BATH TOWELS.....PERSON.....
HYGENE.....1.....NAIL CLIPPERS.....PERSON.....
HYGENE.....12 ROLLS.....PAPER TOWEELS.....PERSON.....
HYGENE.....12.....RAZOR MALE.....PERSON.....
HYGENE.....12.....RAZORS FEMALE .....PERSON.....
HYGENE.....1.....TOE NAIL CLIPPERS.....PERSON.....
HYGENE.....4.....TOOTH BRUSHES.....PERSON.....
HYGENE.....6 TUBES.....TOOTH PASTE.....PERSON.....
HYGENE.....3.....WASH CLOTHS.....PERSON.....

MEDICAL.....12.....2X2 DRESSING.....PERSON.....
MEDICAL.....12.....4X4 DRESSING.....PERSON.....
MEDICAL.....1.....500 CNT ASPRIN.....FAMILY.....
MEDICAL.....1.....500 CNT IBUPROFEN.....FAMILY.....
MEDICAL.....4.....ADHESIVE TAPE.....PERSON.....
MEDICAL.....2.....ANTI-BIOTIC CREAM.....PERSON.....
MEDICAL.....4.....BAND AID STRIPS LARGE CAN.....FAMILY.....
MEDICAL.....2.....BATADINE SOAP.....PERSON .....
MEDICAL.....1 BTL.....BETADINE PER.....PERSON.....
MEDICAL.....12 BOXES.....BOXES BAKING SODA.....FAMILY.....
MEDICAL.....2.....CONTACT.....PERSON.....
MEDICAL.....1.....EMERGENCY DENTAL KIT.....FAMILY.....
MEDICAL.....AS NEEDEDFEMALE NEEDS.....PERSON.....
MEDICAL..........FEMALE NEEDS AS NEEDED.....PERSON .....
MEDICAL.....1.....FIELD SURGERY KIT.....FAMILY.....
MEDICAL.....4.....FOOT POWDER.....PERSON.....
MEDICAL.....4.....IMODIUM AD.....PERSON.....
MEDICAL.....2.....IODINE.....FAMILY.....
MEDICAL.....6 BOTT.....ISOPROPAL ALCHOL.....PERSON.....
MEDICAL.....4.....KLING ROLL BANDAGE.....PERSON.....
MEDICAL.....2 QT.....LISTERINE OR EQUIVELENT .....PERSON.....
MEDICAL.....1 TUBE.....MEDICAL SUPER GLUE.....PERSON.....
MEDICAL.....2 PACKS.....MOLE SKINS.....PERSON.....
MEDICAL.....4.....NEOSPORIN ANTI-BIOTIC CREAM.....PERSON.....
MEDICAL.....4.....PEPTO BISMO.....PERSON.....
MEDICAL.....NEEDED.....PERSCRIPTIONS .....PERSON.....
MEDICAL.....6.....PHROXIDE.....FAMILY.....
MEDICAL.....2 JARS.....VASELINE.....FAMILY

POWER.....5 BOXES..... MATCHES (STRIKE ANY WHERE).....FAMILY.....
POWER.....2 25FT.....10 OR 12 GAGE EXTENSION CORDS.....FAMILY.....
POWER.....2.....12 VOLT DEEP CYCLE BATTERY.....FAMILY.....
POWER.....6.....12 VOLT LIGHT BULBS.....FAMILY.....
POWER.....1.....5 KW 110/220 GNERATOR.....FAMILY.....
POWER.....2.....55 GAL FUEL DRUMS.....FAMILY.....
POWER.....2.....FLASHLIGHTS W (EXTRA BULBS).....PERSON.....
POWER.....1.....GAS LANTERN.....FAMILY.....
POWER.....2.....KEROSESE LANTERN.....FAMILY.....
POWER.....1 ZIPPO.....LIGHTER.....FAMILY.....
POWER.....2 PK.....LIGHTER FLINTS.....FAMILY.....
POWER.....5 BOXES.....MATCHES (STRIKE ANY WHERE).....FAMILY.....
POWER.....2.....MINI FLASH LIGHTS W (EXTRA BULBS).....PERSON.....
POWER.....12 AA.....RECHARGABLE BATTERIES.....FAMILY.....
POWER.....12 AAA.....RECHARGABLE BATTERIES.....FAMILY.....
POWER.....12 C CELL.....RECHARGABLE BATTERIES.....FAMILY.....
POWER.....12 D CELL.....RECHARGABLE BATTERIES.....FAMILY.....
POWER.....2.....SOLAR BATTERY CHARGER.....FAMILY
POWER.....24.....SURVIVAL CANDELS.....FAMILY

SANITATION.....25.....30 GAL TRASH BAGS.....FAMILY.....
SANITATION.....25.....55 GAL TRASH BAGS.....FAMILY.....
SANITATION.....10 GAL.....BLEACH (UNSENTED).....FAMILY.....
SANITATION.....50'.....CLOTHS LINE .....FAMILY.....
SANITATION.....1 BAG.....CLOTHS PINS (SPRING TYPE).....FAMILY.....
SANITATION.....6 MONTHS.....LAUNDRY SOAP.....FAMILY.....
SANITATION.....100 LBS.....LIME.....FAMILY.....
SANITATION.....24 ROLLS.....TOILET PAPER.....PERSON

SHELTER.....2.....BLANKETS.....PERSON.....
SHELTER.....2.....SHEETS.....PERSON.....
SHELTER.....1.....SLEEPING BAG.....PERSON.....
SHELTER.....1.....TUBE TENT.....PERSON.....
SHELTER.....1 ROLL.....VISQUENE.....FAMILY
SHELTER.....1 12X16.....PLASTIC OR CANVAS TARP (CAMMO/OD).....FAMILY

TOOLS.....100 FT.....1/2 '' ROPE .....FAMILY.....
TOOLS.....5 LB.....10 D NAILS.....FAMILY.....
TOOLS.....1.....10 POUND SLEDGE HAMMER.....FAMILY.....
TOOLS.....5 LB.....12 D NAILS.....FAMILY.....
TOOLS.....5 LB.....16 D NAILS.....FAMILY.....
TOOLS.....2 GAL.....2 CYCLE OIL.....FAMILY.....
TOOLS.....5 LB.....8 D NAILS.....FAMILY.....
TOOLS.....1.....AXE.....FAMILY.....
TOOLS.....1.....CHAIN SAW .....FAMILY.....
TOOLS.....1.....CLAW HAMMER (STEEL HANDLE).....FAMILY.....
TOOLS.....1.....COME ALONG.....FAMILY.....
TOOLS.....1.....CROSS CUT SAW.....FAMILY.....
TOOLS.....1.....EXTRA CHAIN AND FILE.....FAMILY.....
TOOLS.....5 LB.....FENCE STAPLES.....FAMILY.....
TOOLS.....2.....FILES 1 CORSE 1 FINE.....FAMILY.....
TOOLS.....1.....HAMMER 10 LB.....FAMILY.....
TOOLS.....1.....HAMMER 2 LB.....FAMILY.....
TOOLS.....1.....HAND HATCHET.....FAMILY.....
TOOLS.....1.....HEAVY WIRE CUTTERS.....FAMILY.....
TOOLS.....1.....HEAVY WOOD RASP 4 WAY.....FAMILY.....
TOOLS.....1.....MACHETTE.....FAMILY.....
TOOLS.....1.....PICK.....FAMILY.....
TOOLS.....1.....PRY BAR.....FAMILY.....
TOOLS.....1.....RIP SAW.....FAMILY.....
TOOLS.....1.....ROUND SHOVEL.....FAMILY.....
TOOLS.....1.....SAW FILE.....FAMILY.....
TOOLS.....1.....SLEDGE HAMMER.....FAMILY.....
TOOLS.....1.....SPLITING WEDGE.....FAMILY.....
TOOLS.....1.....SQUARE SHOVEL.....FAMILY.....
TOOLS.....1.....VICE GRIP PLYERS.....FAMILY.....
TOOLS.....2 PR.....WORK GLOVES.....FAMILY.....

TRANSPORT.....6 SPARE..... LUGNUTS AND STUDS.....PER VEH .....
TRANSPORT.....20 FT.....5/16 CHAIN.....PER-VEH.....
TRANSPORT.....1 CASE.....30 WGT OIL.....PER-VEH.....
TRANSPORT.....1.....5 GAL JERRY CAN.....PER-VEH.....
TRANSPORT.....1 SET.....BATT CABLE ENDS.....PER-VEH.....
TRANSPORT.....1 CASE.....CASE 30 WGT OIL.....PER-VEH.....
TRANSPORT.....2.....EMERGENCY FAN BELT.....PER-VEH.....
TRANSPORT.....2 CANS.....FIX A FLAT.....PER-VEH.....
TRANSPORT.....1 5 GAL.....JERRY CAN.....PER-VEH.....
TRANSPORT.....1 PR.....JUMPER CABLES.....PER-VEH.....
TRANSPORT.....6 SPARE.....LUGNUTS AND STUDS.....PER VEH .....
TRANSPORT.....1.....SET SPARE HOSES.....PER-VEH.....
TRANSPORT.....10 FT.....SIPHON HOSE.....PER-VEH.....
TRANSPORT.....1.....SPARE BATTERY.....PER-VEH.....
TRANSPORT.....1 SET.....SPARE HOSES.....PER-VEH.....
TRANSPORT.....1.....TIRE PLUG KIT.....PER-VEH.....
TRANSPORT.....1 20 FT.....TOW STRAP NYLON.....PER-VEH.....
TRANSPORT.....1 CASE.....TRANSMISSOIN FLUID.....PER-VEH.....
TRANSPORT.....2.....TUBE GREASE & GREASE GUN.....PER VEH .....
TRANSPORT.....1 CASE.....12 VOLT TIRE PUMP .....FAMILY.....
TRANSPORT.....2.....RATCHET TYPE TIE DOWN 1”X15’ MIN.....PER VEH.....
TRANSPORT.....2.....ROLLS DUCT TAPE.....PER-VEH.....


WATER.....50'.....3/4" WATER HOSE.....FAMILY.....
WATER.....1.....55 GAL FOOD QUALITY BARRELS.....FAMILY.....
WATER.....2.....FOOD QUALITY STORAGE BARRELS.....FAMILY.....



EXAMPLES of BOB's courtesy of Doomjunkie

My everyday carry High Sierra bag:
Roll of TP
Hand warmers
Hand sanitizer
Emergency blanket
Tea candles
Blaster match fire starter
Zip ties
Light stick
Emergency tube tent
Water purification tablets
2 liter Platypus Big Zip
Scooby snacks
First aid kit

My main Bag:
2 pair of socks
2 pair of undies
2 long sleeve shirts
2 light weight pairs of pants
Hand warmers
Toe warmers
2 Platypus Platybottles (Able to boil and freeze)
Small tubes of JB Weld
Zip ties
Duracell hand crank radio/flashlight
Roll of TP
Vaseline soaked cotton balls
Light stick
First aid kit
Sweetwater Guardian Micro filter
Rain poncho
XD45 Tactical,3 mags,ammo,cleaning kit with Boresnake
Ear plugs
Safety glasses
5 in 1 caming tool includes-shovel,pick,saw,axe,and hammer
Camo tarp
Eureka 2 man tent
Cabelas 3-d sleeping bag rated at -30 degrees
Cascade Designs Thermorest sleeping bag pad (self inflatable)
Bushnell 20-50 binos
Matches
SOG Power Plier multi-tool
2 Cobra Micro talk GMRS radios with NOAA and a 15 mile range
Gerber hatchet
SOG Seal Revolver knife/saw
Scooby snacks



Courtesy of Bingo

This what one should carry in their B-O-B.
I use a "LRP pack" with the "Day Pack" attached.

Equipment List Availability
On Person
Personal Weapon M-4 .223
Personal Sidearm Sig P-226 9mm w/4 mags
Personal Sidearm Colt Mustang .380acp w/4 mags
AN/PVS-14 1
Laser Range Finder 1
Field Dressing in flap pocket 1
Clasp knife- Leatherman Tool 1
Face Veil 1
Shemagh- Green/Black 1
Para Cord- 100' 100'
Watch 1
Morphine Syret No- Percocet- 1
Binoculars 1- Bushnell Waterproof
Document Pouch 1
Matches Container 1
Butterfly Knife Sharpener 1
Camo Stick 1
Money- Cash Yes
Map, Protractor, Note Book, Pencil & Pencil Sharpener in Waterproof Bag 1
Garmin III+ 1
Small Knife- Kabar w/Kydex Sheath 1
Compass- small 1
Matches- Water Proof 2
Magnesium Fire Starter 1
Red Flashlight (2) 2
Plastic Spoon 2
Disposable Lighters 5
Magnifying Glass 1
Power Bars 7
Therometer- small 1
Chapstick 1
P38 Can Opener w/spoon 1
Tube- A & D Ointment 1
Toothbrush- collapsible 1
Small Toothpaste 1


On Pistol Belt
Mag Pouches- Rifle (4 & 3) Yes- 7+4 30rd mags 4
Mag Pouches- Pistol (Double Pouch) 1 w/ 2 - 17rd mags 3
Weapon Cleaning Kit w/spare parts .223 & 9mm
1qt. Canteen 1
H2O Purifying Tablets (On Canteen) 1
M9A1 Bayonet 1
Large Compass- Replaced by GPS 1
SAR Strobe Light w/2 AA Batteries 1
Surefire Flashlight 1
Surefire Flashlight Battery 12-pack 1
Emergency Pack Yes
Medical Pack #1 Yes

In the LRP (pack)
Sleeping Bag 1
Goretex Bivey Bag 1
Vapor Barrier Bag 1
Large Garbage Bags 2
Ground Mat 1
Change of dry clothing 1
Gore-Tex Rain Jacket 1- Black (M)
Gore-Tex Rain Pants 1- Camo (M)
Extra warm clothing in cold climate 1
Water Proof Gloves 1
Mess Tin and KFS 1- Mess Tin, 1- KFS Day Pack
Rations- MRE's (7) 7, 4-Day Pack
Cooking Fuel- Sterno (3-Lg) 3
Cooking Fuel- Trioxane 4- Boxes Day Pack
Washing Kit 1
Dental Hygene Kit 1
Patrol Radio-Motorola T6500 (3-AA) 1
Radio Accessories Not Needed
Radio- Wind up AM/FM 1- Day Pack
Waterproof bag 1
Toilet Paper 2- Day Pack
Spare Batteries-"AA" 16+
Carabiner- Black (2) 2- Day Pack
Rope-5mm 31' Rope-6mm 40' 5mm- 31' - Day Pack
Baby Wipes 2-packages 2
5qt canteen 1
Chemical Light Sticks (5) 5, ( 3- Day Pack)
Surefire E2D Flashlight 1
Surefire 3v Lithium Batteries- Box (12) 1
Headlamp 1

Escape Kit- On Belt
2- MRE's (Main Course Package) 2
Small file 1
Punch Mix- MRE 1-Package 1
Gatorade- 1- Package 1
Crackers- MRE 1
Hacksaw blade (2) 1-Fine, 1-Course 2
Small Sterno (2) 2
Iodine tablets 1
Fishing Line Kit/Snare 1
Trip wire 1
Space Blanket 1
New Skin- Small Bottle 1
Magnesium fire starter 1
Waterproof Matches 2
SAS saw 1
Folding Stove- Small 1
Razor blades (1- Package of 5) 1
Signal mirror 1
Para cord- 50' 50'
Emergency Candles (1) 1
Needles, buttons, thread, S-Pins 1
Beef boullion- Maggi 2 Boxes 2
Mints, Chewing gum, Tea Bags 1
Insect Repellant 1
Camo Stick 1
Small Harvest Bars (3) 3
Small Toothpaste 1
Trioxane Fuel Packages (1- Box of 3) 3
RAD Pills KI 1- Pill Container 1
Excedrin (5- 2 packs) 5
"AA" Batteries 2
Small Flashlight 1
Sm Flashlight AAA Battery Spare 2
Crazy Glue 1

Escape Kit Container (In Esp Pouch) Used to be sold by Brigade QM
Hexamine tabs- 6 included
Chocolate 70gms included
Mint Cake 85gms included
Barley Sugar 50gms included
Oatmeal 25gms included
Soup Cube- 1 included
Chewing gum packet included
Water Purifying Tablet- 6 included
Wind Proof Matches- 5 included
Whistle- 1 included
Coffee Sachets- 2 included
Sugar Sachets- 2 included
Emerg Message Form- 1 included
Pencil- 1 included
Instructions- 1 included

Medical Kit on Belt
Band -aids 5
Alcohol wipes 6
Povidone-Iodine Anti-septic Yes- Update- Buy
Bacitracin Ointment Tube 1 Exp 7/08
Gauze Pads (5) 5
Gauze Dressing- Roll 1
Water proof tape- Roll 1
Anti-Septic Wipes- Benzalkonium 3
Burn Cream 1
Betadine Wipe 1
Rubber Band- (Tourniquet) 1
Temp- Monitor 1
Chap Stick 1
Field dressing- Compression Bandage 1
Bio Freeze- Packets 2
Scissors 1
Tweezers 1
Anti-biotics- Cipro (2 1
Pain killers- Percocet (20) Oxycon 1
Exacto Knife 1
Extra Exacto Knife Blades (5) 5
Scalpel Handle 1- #4 Handle
Scalpel Handle 1- #3 Handle
Scalpel Blades 4- #2 Blades
Scalpel Blades 6- #22 Blades
Suture Kit-2-Reg 2-Disolving 1-w/Needle 2/2/2

Medical Kit in LRP Pack- Day Pack
Latex Gloves 1
Safety Pins (- Large 8
Athletic Tape- 1 Roll 1
Syringe 1- 5cc
Dental Floss- Small 1
Alcohol- Small Bottle 1
Hydrogen Peroxide- Small Bottle 1
Q-tips 1
Burn Cream- 1 cachet 1
Dermological Cream- 2 Tubes 2
Chapstick 1
Cotton Balls- Small Bottle 1
Kleenex 1
Three plastic toothpicks 3
Benadryl(12)& Sudafed(9)-Sm Bottle 1
Advil & Imodium Small Bottle 1
Imodium(12) & Aleve- Small Bottle 1
Bio Freeze- 1 packets 2
Quik-Clot Obtain- 1


Hemostats Buy- 1
forceps Buy- 1
needle driver(though hemostats can work in a pinch) Buy- 1
lidocaine Buy- 1
Syringe 2- 5cc 1- 3-cc
Quik-Clot Obtain- 1



posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 06:29 AM
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Well that sir, is a great list and a great resource for anyone wanting an idea of what they may need for any situation.



posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 06:33 AM
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Originally posted by Subjective Truth
reply to post by semperfortis
 


To say a knife is more important is just like the 150 year old saying dont bring a knife to a gun fight. When I decided to get prepared this was my list of importance



Well then ST, we must agree to disagree then. A knife can be used for hunting, self defence, shelter building, fashioning other weapons, skinning caught game, splitting wood etc.

A gun, yes self defence, and yes hunting. I agree a gun would be useful but not at the top of my list for equipment required.



posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 11:07 AM
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Wow, what a post!
I'm going to have to take some time and let it marionate a while!
Thank you for taking the time to post that list!
You may just indeed have saved someones life!
Always have provisions in your car everyone!
Especially this time of year!


Couple gets stranded after following GPS 'advice'

www.katu.com...


Couple survives Mission Canyon firestorm in bunker

www.thedailysound.com...

Edit to add: a census taker ran off into the neighbors ditch
because her GPS unit told her it was a road!

I guess eyeballs and common sense are optional equipment!



[edit on 31-12-2009 by dodadoom]



posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 12:30 PM
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Holy sheeeet what a list Wolf! Thank you for the info. I'll be sure to review and update some of the items in my families BOB packs.



posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 12:37 PM
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Originally posted by colec156

Originally posted by Subjective Truth
reply to post by semperfortis
 


To say a knife is more important is just like the 150 year old saying dont bring a knife to a gun fight. When I decided to get prepared this was my list of importance



Well then ST, we must agree to disagree then. A knife can be used for hunting, self defence, shelter building, fashioning other weapons, skinning caught game, splitting wood etc.

A gun, yes self defence, and yes hunting. I agree a gun would be useful but not at the top of my list for equipment required.



99.9999999999+% of the time the man with the gun is going to win. Also your chances of getting game in the wild goes up tremendously. Also try to think of the unthinkable and throw your morals out the window. If you, your spouse or your children are starving to death you may do the unthinkable to obtain food. What would your chances be with a knife compared to a gun???

Now you may say that is something you would never do but I can guarantee there are millions that will when they get to that point. So when you pull out your Crocodile Dundee knife you stand little chance from a person more than 5 yards away with a gun. Remember when Indiana Jones shot the guy with the sword? That will be you without a gun.



posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 06:42 PM
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I would have to say the bullets are purty important too!

I agree, a good knife is a requisite though.

Good discussion!


Choose the best survival knife for you.

www.survival-gear-guide.com...
www.wilderness-survival-skills.com...
www.survivaltopics.com...
www.onlyknives.com...
www.campingsurvival.com...


Be sure to rotate your stock of food, water, vitamins and prescriptions so that they are fresh and effective. Most canned goods can easily be stored up to one year, and most dried goods may be consumed up to six months from their purchase date. If no expiration date is present on items, label the date you added them to the emergency kit with a marker so you’ll know when it is time to replace them. I’m not advocating you rush out and buy all these things today (unless you are ready to make a significant investment), simply add a few items from the list to your grocery budget over the next few weeks and begin to build your own family emergency kit.

frugaldad.com...



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 12:08 PM
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Originally posted by on_yur_6


99.9999999999+% of the time the man with the gun is going to win. Also your chances of getting game in the wild goes up tremendously. Also try to think of the unthinkable and throw your morals out the window. If you, your spouse or your children are starving to death you may do the unthinkable to obtain food. What would your chances be with a knife compared to a gun???


Now you may say that is something you would never do but I can guarantee there are millions that will when they get to that point. So when you pull out your Crocodile Dundee knife you stand little chance from a person more than 5 yards away with a gun. Remember when Indiana Jones shot the guy with the sword? That will be you without a gun.


What a very clever reply.

So cos a gun is not high on my list of requirements I going to be the starving guy, I going to be the bad guy from Indian Jones, getting shot dead.
Did I point out I live in the UK !


I can take game with my x bow if needed, though I would rather trap game and net fish.

MY own opinion is that survival is about more than just running into the woods with a gun and living of the land with a butter knife and threatening the next man with my gun for his food.

What happens when your bullets run out, cos it will happen. Would it be better to be very discrete going about yourself. The trick is, to have your wits about you and stay out the way, avoid all confrontation is possible.

Anyways, I was pointing out that my own requirements that I would put a good knife alot higher up on a list.

Lets agree to disagree on yur 6

regards


[edit on 1-1-2010 by colec156]



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 12:24 PM
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That's a pretty comprehensive list. Do you have a U-haul to carry it all in? If you need all that for a bug out bag then what you really need is a bug out location with all that stuff pre-cached. You can't reasonably expect to grab the 50 bags that hold all that stuff and run out the door.

Don't get me wrong; it's a great list but for that much stuff, you really need a cache. Those are great items to have extra in your house in case the power goes out but if you have to leave your house you wouldn't be able to take all that with you.

In making preparations or being a "prepper" it's important to know what you're preparing for and prepare accordingly.



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 02:14 PM
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I was thinking a pickup and trailer myself!


This is the master list.

Obviously a bug out bag would include a lot less stuff.
I agree this is prolly for the bug out location.
Or things to have around the homestead anyway.
You can find alot of this stuff at yard sales,
online auctions and second hand stores.

Hopefully it makes a person think about their unique situation anyway,
and what things they need to survive a week or two.
A family has to prepare for what most likely will happen in their locale
and to prepare the best they can with what they have.
Thanks for the posts WW and everyone!



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 08:02 PM
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Originally posted by whitewave
reply to post by lilwolf
 


That's a pretty comprehensive list. Do you have a U-haul to carry it all in? If you need all that for a bug out bag then what you really need is a bug out location with all that stuff pre-cached. You can't reasonably expect to grab the 50 bags that hold all that stuff and run out the door.

Don't get me wrong; it's a great list but for that much stuff, you really need a cache. Those are great items to have extra in your house in case the power goes out but if you have to leave your house you wouldn't be able to take all that with you.

In making preparations or being a "prepper" it's important to know what you're preparing for and prepare accordingly.



actually this is only a master list of sorts... the BO bags are always in the vehicles and always ready to go...

that is the basic store of what we have stored at the shelter.... and a great deal more...

this was to help people get an idea of what they might need... not for one vehicle or even a BO.... but more to give you an idea of what is involved...

it takes far more than people think to be set up for a SHTF scenario... but if it does I do not worry.... takes time and dilligence and effort as well as determination to complete what ever you are planning to do for you and yours



posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 08:31 PM
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I have a knife under my pillow and a bottle of scotch in my cupboard, all the preparation I'll ever need.



posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 11:23 PM
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Originally posted by cjhahaha
I have a knife under my pillow and a bottle of scotch in my cupboard, all the preparation I'll ever need.




may i suggest you buy a box for your remains because people who make no effort are really going to get got first...



posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 10:25 PM
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Being prepared is a great plan, we should all keep a good supply on hand for whatever may come. But when I looked at the link you provided (a good one) I was reminded of something else in another thread that we need to be aware of also.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Does anyone know if there's a way to keep "marked" food hidden? Or maybe disable the markers?



posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 10:35 PM
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Being prepared is an olde fashioned ideal.
Hang out with some Mormons, and do as they do. It's simple, easy and has a network of like minded people.
Even if you don't subscribe to the theology, it's simple to fake.
Many Mormons do all ready.



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