Why People are STILL Laughing at Creationists (and ID'ers), page 1
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reply posted on 29-12-2009 @ 10:03 PM by Clearskies
Wow, so anyone who believes we were MADE, PUT HERE on EARTH, (INCLUDING Panspermia, Richard Dawkins
18 Apr 2008: Richard Dawkins endorses panspermia.
is just S-T-U-P-I-D?
Oh, I guess I'll go now.....


reply posted on 29-12-2009 @ 10:17 PM by Republican08
Originally posted by Clearskies
Wow, so anyone who believes we were MADE, PUT HERE on EARTH, (INCLUDING
Panspermia, Richard Dawkins
18 Apr 2008: Richard Dawkins endorses panspermia.
is just S-T-U-P-I-D?
Oh, I guess I'll go now.....


No, No, No.

Richard Dawkins doesn't endorse panspermia, it was taken out of context in Ben Steins god awful movie Expelled, where he cut and over talked into the movie,




reply posted on 29-12-2009 @ 10:19 PM by Clearskies
reply to post by Republican08



No, it wasn't 'out of context' as Panspermia.org, explains;
Richard Dawkins endorses panspermia in a movie about Intelligent Design (ID). Interviewed in dim light by actor Ben Stein, Dawkins says that the intelligent design of life on Earth might be detectable if the designers were highly evolved creatures who spread life through space by panspermia long ago. Wow, we’re pleased by this development in Dawkins' thinking. Of course he adds that the first creatures must have evolved in the strictly darwinian manner. Of course.



reply posted on 29-12-2009 @ 10:22 PM by JaxonRoberts
reply to post by habfan1968



Maybe because those who 'believe' this crap, literally, tell people crap like God commands you to kill Gays, or that they commit acts of terrorism like this:



Or murder like this:



Or genocide like this:


or this:


Or encourage and inspire hate like this:



Or that they can be easily coerced into the fringe cults and end up like this:


or this:

or this:


Or the sanctioning of child rape in cults like this:



This is what happens when one says to hell with logic and proof, to hell with thinking for oneself, to hell with questioning that which they are told...

Do you think that any of these people thought this could happen to them? It all started with blind faith... And really that's all you have to base a literal belief in the Bible on, BLIND FAITH! It does not pass the logic test, it does not have a stitch of real evidence to support it, just BLIND FAITH! So you can continue to think that science is conspiring against you... You can continue to have others do your thinking for you... You can continue to live by BLIND FAITH! But in the end, blind faith just leaves you unable to see the endless possibilities and is a waste of a life...

I have no problem with a true Christian, one who tries to live a 'Christlike' existance. Jesus gave a beautiful example of a way to live in this world, regardless of whether or not he was of Divine origin. But I have NEVER seen, met or heard a single Fundamentalist (of which most Christians are not) who was the slightest bit 'Christlike'. In fact, the line between Fundamentalist and Cultist is a fine one indeed!

If I can make even one person question that which they are told to just believe on faith, despite that fact that it lacks any data to support it, then all the crap I'm taking from you all is worth it...


reply posted on 29-12-2009 @ 10:42 PM by JaxonRoberts
reply to post by habfan1968



To tell you the truth, I don't know. I base my belief that the non-fundamentalists outnumber the fundamentalists due to those I know personally. Most do not think that Genesis is history, but instead stories with deep meaning behind them from an ancient people. Most Christians I know accept evolution with absolutely no conflict whatsoever because they concentrate on the New Testament and leave the Book of the Jewish People (OT) aside. I myself am a very spiritual person (not a follower of an organized religion), and find that science has helped me to define who and what God really is.

One can accept science and not give up a Creator. I myself see a being who created the Big Bang, knowing what the 'Butterfly Effect' would be. Being a Being of infinite power and patience, God could certainly wait ten or twelve billion years for sentient life to appear in the Universe.

There is another problem I have with almost all organized religions, this notion that the Universe was created just for us, and that we were created in His image! Talk about arrogance cubed! And what a waste of real estate! A whole Universe created so a few billion advanced, self-aware apes could inhabit a small dust speck in it! Just my $0.02 on the subject...


reply posted on 29-12-2009 @ 10:47 PM by Republican08
Originally posted by Clearskies
reply to
post by Republican08



No, it wasn't 'out of context' as Panspermia.org, explains;
Richard Dawkins endorses panspermia in a movie about Intelligent Design (ID). Interviewed in dim light by actor Ben Stein, Dawkins says that the intelligent design of life on Earth might be detectable if the designers were highly evolved creatures who spread life through space by panspermia long ago. Wow, we’re pleased by this development in Dawkins' thinking. Of course he adds that the first creatures must have evolved in the strictly darwinian manner. Of course.


He still said that if life was brought upon earth in any other way then evolution that 'the best arguement a person could maybe possibly present' would be panspermia by aliens, but at the same time evolution would problem explain the aliens, he says jokingly.

I've bought Expelled, and watched every video of Dawkins describing the insanity of it, and when P.Z Meyers got kicked out of the first showing by ben stein for no apparent reason, even though he was in the movie, and dawkins himself contested the movie when he watched the first showing by B. Stein.

He doesn't endorse it, that's a stretch.

It's like saying the stork theory is more plausible then a no sperm birth.

It doesn't endorse the stork theory per se, it just ridicules both sides.

1 being that storks don't deliver babies, and 2 that miracle births are even more ridiculous.


reply posted on 29-12-2009 @ 10:56 PM by 13579
reply to post by habfan1968



and he also does not discount that hes got no clue

anyone and i do mean ANYONE who thinks they KNOW how we got here is talking out there ARSE

and that my friend is a fact, thats why we have a personal jesus.. because we aint got and EFFING CLUE

BUT! the clue is in the question ; ) check this one out... and see if you get it.

WHY are we here

barabing baraboom "why"

simple is it not? ITS NOT THE ANSWER fellow its the QUESTION!


reply posted on 29-12-2009 @ 11:04 PM by 13579
reply to post by JaxonRoberts




AHH my good friend you hit a good point! so i shall help our fellow fundies LOL



There is another problem I have with almost all organized religions, this notion that the Universe was created just for us, and that we were created in His image! Talk about arrogance cubed! And what a waste of real estate! A whole Universe created so a few billion advanced, self-aware apes could inhabit a small dust speck in it! Just my $0.02 on the subject...


you First Part is in fact TRUE so i dont need to debate that not that i would as im on your side here.. BUT i did want to help you with a statement here..

"Universe was created just for us" <-- LOL thats funny i know , ok so let me comment on the part i love.

we were created in His image!

This baby is amazing!!! for a start is god HE? since when? dunno just kinda thought he was a bloke! "coz the bible said" well in fact no it didnt .. it said GOD SPOKE TO MOSES" didnt in fact say god was a guy now did it? no.. could have been a woman? could have been a bloody alien using a form of "connection / langauge" that poor lil old mosey could understand .. i mean after all he was stupid "man" that is.. oh neways..

Now made in his "image" wtf does that reallllly mean? if you was to take that as littarly as the people who shout SINNER every time you open your mout then that would mean GOD is bOTH MAN AND WOMAN and in fact some kinday HOMOMANWOMAN? or basicaly a plant.. LOL or soomething "i know gets silly does it not"

So what IMAGE would that mean? many it means HOW YOU WORK

as in wtf am i doing here!!

maybe god <-- if there is one HAS NO CLUE WHAT SO EVER you are even here?

maybe god is asking WHO THE EFFING HELL MADE ME, would seem logical would it not?

lol...

keep it up because i love slapping people round the heads with logic


reply posted on 29-12-2009 @ 11:21 PM by JaxonRoberts
reply to post by 13579



My personal opinion is that the Divine is neither male nor female, and yet both at the same time...
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