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Bombshell Eyewitness Revelations: Confirmed FBI Cover-up Of Flight 253 Attack

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posted on Jan, 3 2010 @ 07:31 AM
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The Haskells are probably looking for monetary gain or they wouldn't be selling themselves to the MSM. There are many other eyewitnesses who aren't accepting money for their stories because they are probably more respectable than the Haskells who aren't experts on African nationalities, Islam, or anything else related to terrorism. So let's drop all those experts and national security and believe Eddie Haskell and the Bev so we can be safe when the next guy lights up his underwear and succeeds with killing a bunch of people, yeah, that's the ticket. Pass the bong.




posted on Jan, 3 2010 @ 07:32 AM
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Originally posted by SphinxMontreal
Gullible suckers are a dime a dozen within the American populace.


I can't argue with you there. Why some Americans are so gullible that they can be convinced to stop thinking critically and see every world event as part of a government conspiracy. Otherwise intelligent people will fall into line to accuse anyone who dares think differently of being a disinformation agent.

Conversely, they will embrace those who offer an alternative to the govt's version of the events as honest, courageous patriots. It would seem to me that clear thinking people who seek the truth would be open to all points of view and not attempt to discredit anyone who refuses to default to the conspiratorial position as a knee-jerk reflex.

Clearly, there a great deal of gullible people within the American populace and they put their gullibility on display on this board on an hourly basis.



posted on Jan, 3 2010 @ 07:49 AM
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Originally posted by Night Watchman

Originally posted by SphinxMontreal
Gullible suckers are a dime a dozen within the American populace.


I can't argue with you there. Why some Americans are so gullible that they can be convinced to stop thinking critically and see every world event as part of a government conspiracy. Otherwise intelligent people will fall into line to accuse anyone who dares think differently of being a disinformation agent.

Conversely, they will embrace those who offer an alternative to the govt's version of the events as honest, courageous patriots. It would seem to me that clear thinking people who seek the truth would be open to all points of view and not attempt to discredit anyone who refuses to default to the conspiratorial position as a knee-jerk reflex.

Clearly, there a great deal of gullible people within the American populace and they put their gullibility on display on this board on an hourly basis.

Well said.

Notice how this story isn't out there much anymore except on FOX. Like that long list of incidents since 1973, law enforcement rounds up these bastarddss and locks them up like any other criminal. And like other criminals when released... they return to the crime and escalate their activity.
But the difference is that these Islamic criminals aim to kill thousands, even millions, which justify the US defending ourselves in countries where the crimes originate. But what defies our criminal justice system is Sharia Law which only fuels more criminal activity so this won't be ending soon.
I'm sure Haskell is no expert on this either.



posted on Jan, 3 2010 @ 08:23 AM
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Originally posted by JJay55
The Haskells are probably looking for monetary gain or they wouldn't be selling themselves to the MSM.

Yeah, that's it! Never mind that the government reversed themselves for the FOURTH time in a week and finally admitted that the Haskell's eyewitness account of the second arrested passenger occurred exactly as they described. The Haskells are probably lying to obtain vast fortunes from the news media.



posted on Jan, 3 2010 @ 09:21 AM
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Anyone see a similarity in the following government disinfo?


1) Originally posted by mmiichael
As I said a couple times (check it) there is something conflicting, maybe Haskell blending two events.


2) In a comment made Saturday on MLive.com, Kurt Haskell, a Taylor attorney, said he saw authorities handcuff a second man after a bomb-sniffing dog alerted them to something in the man's carry-on bag.

[U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokesman] Smith confirmed for MLive.com yesterday that a second person had been taken into custody, but today tells the News the person was a passenger on a different flight.

"There was a second person taken into custody, but it had nothing to do with Flight 253," he said. "They did see dogs, but again, it was a totally different incident."

Now, after the government has changed their story FOUR times in a week, they've finally admitted that these were not different incidents and the Haskells were telling the truth.

Why can't the government get their story straight? And more importantly, why would anyone believe pathological liars?


[edit on 3-1-2010 by GoldenFleece]



posted on Jan, 3 2010 @ 09:35 AM
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Originally posted by JJay55
reply to post by verylowfrequency
 


Then don't fly. Drive your car to your destination. But because muslims decide they want to blow up planes there has to be measures to protect those non-muslims they are trying to blow up.




Yeah, I think I drive my car to Hawaii on my next trip.
How about if you don't want take a chance that freedom isn't always the safest you can stay home yourself?

You want everyone to get naked and have their belonging riffled through in order to fly on commercial airlines. After the first terrorist gets through the full body scans with something are we going to decide that everyone needs to have body cavity searches like they do to convicts in prison? By then we'll have no more rights of free movement then convicts. What are you going to say then if you can't spread your butt cheeks for the TSA butthole surfers you should drive?

The Border patrol is trying to expand our boarders to 100 miles from any border or waterway so essentially a constitution free zone like an airport? How long before we'll accept those checkpoints for our own protection? But, hey if you don't like it you can just stay at home an work and buy your food off the internet.


[edit on 3-1-2010 by verylowfrequency]



posted on Jan, 3 2010 @ 11:35 AM
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What is interesting is to see within a week of this attempted act of terrorism how flakes start coming out of the woodwork. Madly hunting for inconsistencies in media reports, tracking the ownership of airport security to an Israeli firm, etc.

Even though the caught in the act terrorist and Al Qaida openly admit they were trying to blow up the plane - the brainwashed folk who reflexively pervert the truth and history cannot resist another opportunity to apologize for murder and asskiss another Muslim terrorist - fabricating another Wicked US government - Israel fairy tale.

Sad? Pathetic? Ridiculous? Rotten? Insidious?


[edit on 3-1-2010 by mmiichael]



posted on Jan, 3 2010 @ 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by GoldenFleece

Originally posted by JJay55
The Haskells are probably looking for monetary gain or they wouldn't be selling themselves to the MSM.

Yeah, that's it! Never mind that the government reversed themselves for the FOURTH time in a week and finally admitted that the Haskell's eyewitness account of the second arrested passenger occurred exactly as they described. The Haskells are probably lying to obtain vast fortunes from the news media.

So you are the government watchdog who is blowing the whistle on those corrupt officials who are lying to you to fool you and give you false information because you are... the government watchdog who... oh wait.

Everyone knows Napolitano is an unqualified leader and the TSA has, ummm.... no leader so whatever the government is hiding... can't be that much. But the important part of this story is that Islam will produce more underwear bombers and will they get past our incompetent four-time changing government the next time and will the whistleblower get his prize?



posted on Jan, 3 2010 @ 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by mmiichael
What is interesting is to see within a week of this attempted act of terrorism how flakes start coming out of the woodwork. Madly hunting for inconsistencies in media reports, tracking the ownership of airport security to an Israeli firm, etc.

Even though the caught in the act terrorist and Al Qaida openly admit they were trying to blow up the plane - the brainwashed folk who reflexively pervert the truth and history cannot resist another opportunity to apoligize for murder and asskiss another Muslim terrorists - fabricating another Wicked US government - Israel fairy tale.

Sad? Pathetic? Ridiculous? Rotten? Insidious?
[edit on 3-1-2010 by mmiichael]

Yeah well, there are alot of confused woodworms out there. When they are found in the field they usually get a bloody nose, that's why they stay behind a computer.

The latest Zawahiri tape said something about France and Spain. So I wonder if the planes exploding over cities will include Paris and Madrid?



posted on Jan, 3 2010 @ 12:06 PM
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Originally posted by JJay55

Originally posted by mmiichael
What is interesting is to see within a week of this attempted act of terrorism how flakes start coming out of the woodwork. Madly hunting for inconsistencies in media reports, tracking the ownership of airport security to an Israeli firm, etc.

Even though the caught in the act terrorist and Al Qaida openly admit they were trying to blow up the plane - the brainwashed folk who reflexively pervert the truth and history cannot resist another opportunity to apoligize for murder and asskiss another Muslim terrorists - fabricating another Wicked US government - Israel fairy tale.

Sad? Pathetic? Ridiculous? Rotten? Insidious?
[edit on 3-1-2010 by mmiichael]

Yeah well, there are alot of confused woodworms out there. When they are found in the field they usually get a bloody nose, that's why they stay behind a computer.

The latest Zawahiri tape said something about France and Spain. So I wonder if the planes exploding over cities will include Paris and Madrid?

When the pregnant girl(al qaeda the days are pregnant covered up by CIA and western intel cause it was MRSA) We meta t a Spanish restaurant. She said something how this restaurant owner and friends met for some meeting in Spain a few years before. i know the suspect guy (the gardner a german operative) was there at the lunch with us. And France it was released very early on also..MRSA) Again that is when they where setting up the release of MRSA a pandemic now.



posted on Jan, 3 2010 @ 12:43 PM
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Originally posted by zeuseadam

When the pregnant girl(al qaeda the days are pregnant covered up by CIA and western intel cause it was MRSA) We meta t a Spanish restaurant. She said something how this restaurant owner and friends met for some meeting in Spain a few years before. i know the suspect guy (the gardner a german operative) was there at the lunch with us. And France it was released very early on also..MRSA) Again that is when they where setting up the release of MRSA a pandemic now.

So a member of AQ met you and the pregnant girl at a Spanish restaurant and discussed MRSA?



posted on Jan, 3 2010 @ 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by mmiichael
What is interesting is to see within a week of this attempted act of terrorism how flakes start coming out of the woodwork. Madly hunting for inconsistencies in media reports, tracking the ownership of airport security to an Israeli firm, etc.

Yep, those damned eyewitness passengers who are almost killed just need to go along with the program and stop contradicting the government's version of events. Who cares if they object to lies and cover-ups?

These friggin' ingrates need to remember that the government always tells the truth and would never do anything to harm their citizens in order to start and perpetuate endless trillion-dollar wars.



posted on Jan, 3 2010 @ 03:51 PM
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Originally posted by GoldenFleece
Yep, those damned eyewitness passengers who are almost killed just need to go along with the program and stop contradicting the government's version of events. Who cares if they object to lies and cover-ups?

These friggin' ingrates need to remember that the government always tells the truth and would never do anything to harm their citizens in order to start and perpetuate endless trillion-dollar wars.


Problem is conspiracists have been shown repeatedly to be liars and disinformation agents. Almost invariably they parade factoids and speculation to create fictional stories.

Typically they isolate selected myths, urban legends, garbled reports or confusions and try to create the impression of insidious plotting for which there is no tangible evidence.

These conspiracy theories almost invariably accuse the US government, it's agencies, Jews and Israel, of malign and illegal activities. They go to great lengths to exonerate anti-Western Muslims, Middle East regimes like Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Iran and known terrorists. It's hard not to draw a conclusion where their sympathies and loyalties lie.



[edit on 3-1-2010 by mmiichael]



posted on Jan, 3 2010 @ 04:23 PM
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Originally posted by mmiichael
Problem is conspiracists have been shown repeatedly to be liars and disinformation agents. Almost invariably they parade factoids and speculation to create fictional stories.

Typically they isolate selected myths, urban legends, garbled reports or confusions and try to create the impression of insidious plotting for which there is no tangible evidence.

You're a real piece of work. Why don't you tell us again, who's the liar here?

Please point out the myths, urban legends and garbled reports. The government got caught lying AGAIN and they were finally forced to tell the truth -- at least as much as they're capable of. Maybe if more people like the Haskells came forward after 9/11, we could've avoided a couple of trillion-dollar "wars on terror" that have done nothing but kill millions of innocent civilians and piss off millions more who now seek revenge.



posted on Jan, 3 2010 @ 04:39 PM
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Originally posted by GoldenFleece

Please point out the myths, urban legends and garbled reports. The government got caught lying AGAIN and they were finally forced to tell the truth -- at least as much as they're capable of. Maybe if more people like the Haskells came forward after 9/11, we could've avoided a couple of trillion-dollar "wars on terror" that have done nothing but kill millions of innocent civilians and piss off millions more who now seek revenge.


You lack the ability to read and comprehend even a simple paragraph despite attempts to be unambiguous. And typically try to blend events from two separate stories for your conspiracy theories so you can jump up and down about lying governments.

For those paying attention and actually interested in finding out what happened:

Haskell said he saw a well-dressed middle-aged Indian man negotiating the Nigerian onto the plane in Amsterdam - claiming he was a Sudanese refugee with no passport.

This is not the same as the younger man in Detroit airport suspected and hand-cuffed.

Did the Nigerian have a passport or not?

How could he have an expired visa in a passport if it didn't exist?

Did the Dutch immigration authorities allow someone an a plane bound to the US without a passport?

Why is there documentation of a valid Nigerian passport for the same man?

Why does Haskell not clarify the two separate incidents he recounted would have taken place hours apart in different countries?

Why is there yet no validation or refutation of the Amsterdam event?


[edit on 3-1-2010 by mmiichael]



posted on Jan, 3 2010 @ 04:49 PM
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mmiichael your on here 24/7 trying to track all your loose ends.

Its taking its toll because you cannot listen properly and comprehend that Haskel said it was the same guy he saw at amsterdam and at detroit.

please go get some rest.



posted on Jan, 3 2010 @ 04:55 PM
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Originally posted by mmiichael
You lack the ability to read and comprehend even a simple paragraph...

Blah, blah, blah. Why are you avoiding my question?

Who's the liar here?



posted on Jan, 3 2010 @ 05:02 PM
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Originally posted by bigyin
mmiichael your on here 24/7 trying to track all your loose ends.

Its taking its toll because you cannot listen properly and comprehend that Haskel said it was the same guy he saw at amsterdam and at detroit.


Thanks for proving my point about the total lack of reading comprehension and basis analytical skills around here. You're completely wrong about Haskell saying the two men were one.


www.detnews.com...

The Haskells told federal investigators they saw another man being questioned by federal officials and led away from the airport baggage area in handcuffs after a sniffer dog reacted to something in the man's carry-on luggage.

The couple said the man, who appeared to be in his early 30s and of Indian descent, was taken to a room for questioning and later led out of that room in handcuffs.

In previous statements to the media, Smith had said the Haskells' account was a composite of two events that occurred at the airport around the time passengers got off Flight 253. The incidents were unrelated to the terrorist incident, Smith had said.

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The Haskells, who were questioned Tuesday by FBI agents at their law office, earlier told The Detroit News that Kurt Haskell saw Abdulmutallab in Amsterdam, Netherlands, apparently trying to board the flight without a passport.

Kurt Haskell said he saw a well-dressed Indian man, who was older than the Indian man arrested at Detroit Metro, attempting to negotiate with airline officials to get Abdulmutallab on the plane without a passport. He appeared to be trying to pass Abdulmutallab off as a Sudanese refugee, Haskell said.

Nigerian officials have said Abdulmutallab presented a valid Nigerian passport and multi-entry U.S. visa when he began his trip in Lagos.



[edit on 3-1-2010 by mmiichael]



posted on Jan, 3 2010 @ 05:05 PM
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Originally posted by GoldenFleece

Originally posted by mmiichael
You lack the ability to read and comprehend even a simple paragraph...

Blah, blah, blah. Why are you avoiding my question?

Who's the liar here?

Seriously Dude, you think because you read something in the MSM that you are an expert. You don't have any clue what happened with this crotchpants bomber, passports, or anything else about this airplane or the airports, or even AQ. So what is your purpose?
You are anti-American government which is as good as being a terrorist as I see it.

I will tell you, as an expert, that AQ will attempt another airplane attack within a short time period, and they might just get away with it, then what are you going to do big guy, blame the US government again?

AQ has real people who have declared real threats against us. If you don't believe it get out of your house (rare) and go to Pakistan or even a mosque in your neighborhood. Unless of course you do this every Friday like the good muslim or apologist you are.



posted on Jan, 3 2010 @ 05:09 PM
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I also guarantee that this Haskell guy couldn't tell a Korean from a Vietnamese, or a German from a Pole. Neither an Indian from a Pakistani or an Indonesian. And so what if he did, really, who gives a shiiit what Haskell saw, he was a passenger on a plane and he should be greatful he didn't get blown the F up.
I don't see Congress employing Haskell to testify on Capitol Hill. They aren't calling him to any security meetings. Haskell is... nobody. Nor is he proof that the US government has some wacky conspiracy to brainwash all Americans and make them into flesh eating zombies.

If those who are skeptics would take the time to research instead of being bullies and uninformed they would find answers instead as coming across as lazy armchair nutjobs.




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