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I don't believe that this scenerio was intended to go any further than it did.
Originally posted by Night Watchman
Originally posted by L.HAMILTON
The MSM is ignoring along with the FBI is an important part of this story that originally was covered and taped by CNN. The eyewitnesses account (Kurt Haskell) that gave testimony of what happened when a " well dressed wealthy looking Indian man " was giving assistance to the accused bomber. ..www.youtube.com... I believe this is another staged ( weak) attempt to keep this ' War on terrorism going'.
www.infowars.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
I know some of you love to paint the MSM as this monolithic group of propagandists but in this case you are way off base. The Haskells have been on every MSM outlet today telling what they saw at the check in counter and at least CNN had an interview with a woman who saw the man taping the incident.
I have one question about the alleged camera man. If he knew the attack was going to take place, why would he record it since if it was successful the evidence would have been destroyed in the explosion?
Originally posted by TheRepublic
non kurt haskel passenger sees the same second man taken off the flight.
Daniel Huisinga:
((snip))
go to 3:20
Originally posted by GovtFlu
This guy relates that looking into the suspects eyes and observing no emotion, no discernible expressions.
Sounds like the CIAs drug of choice: Burundanga (scopolamine) which places people in a "trance like state" where they are open to suggestion and don't remember a damn thing about what happened... similar to a date rape drug.
Originally posted by ownbestenemy
reply to [url=http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread530293
You are in an up hill battle mmiichael...I commend you!
Why don't we continue to keep an eye on the story, but also remember it is an active investigation now.
Not everything is a conspiracy
Originally posted by L.HAMILTON
Bombshell Eyewitness Revelations:Confirmed FBI Cover-up Of Flight 253 Attack
www.infowars.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
eyewitness experience of the Flight 253 attack and how the FBI detained a second man after dogs detected a bomb in his luggage on The Alex Jones Show today. The FBI has not only ignored Haskell’s story, but they have launched a cover-up by refusing to even acknowledge the existence of another man who filmed the entire flight, including the aborted attack, as well as the well-dressed man who aided the bomber to board the plane even though he had no passport and was on a terror watch list
mod edit, space added in title
[edit on Tue Dec 29 2009 by DontTreadOnMe]
Originally posted by GovtFlu
Originally posted by TheRepublic
non kurt haskel passenger sees the same second man taken off the flight.
Daniel Huisinga:
((snip))
go to 3:20
This guy relates that looking into the suspects eyes and observing no emotion, no discernible expressions.
Sounds like the CIAs drug of choice: Burundanga (scopolamine) which places people in a "trance like state" where they are open to suggestion and don't remember a damn thing about what happened... similar to a date rape drug.
..one moniker for Burundanga is "CIA drug", also called "Nightshade".
"Under its influence, we are told, you remain lucid and articulate yet absolutely compliant to any suggestion. When you awaken, you have no recollection of what has happened. Colorless, odorless, and tasteless, the drug is slipped into drinks and sprinkled onto food. Victims become so docile that they help thieves rob their homes and empty their bank accounts. Women have been drugged repeatedly over days, gang-raped or rented out as prostitutes, or convinced to willingly give up their own children."
"X was invited to spend a relaxing week-end at a luxury hotel as a guest of his friend George Bush. The evening started with cocktails and was followed by a fine meal. "Nothing but the best were the orders." Following the meal, he was ushered into the suite of a blonde "bomb-shell," supplied by the CIA. A dose of Burundanga had been ingested during pre-dinner cocktails. "
Links:
www.singingtotheplants.com...
www.docstoc.com...
earthops.org...
www.stewwebb.com...
Originally posted by JJay55
Do people really believe that the CIA is an organization with the main goal to mind control 300,000,000 Americans? That's kinda funny.
This Nigerian student was the fourth president of the Islamic Society to face terrorism charges. Which means that not only are there hidden training camps for AQ but also Universities are serving as places where muslims are groomed to attack non-muslims... not to mention mosques which have always been a traditional place for that activity.
www.timesonline.co.uk...
"Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, 23, a former president of the Islamic Society at University College London, advertised speakers including political figures, human rights lawyers and former Guantánamo detainees."
How can we be so fooled by this religion of peace (tm) and think it's a CIA plot instead? sheesh.
Originally posted by jonny2410
reply to post by JJay55
I hear you bro but try convincing half of the people on ATS that.. they are to busy looking for and believing stupid ideas to spruce up their boring lives than accepting the truth.
Any moron should be able to see this was an attempted terrorist attack and not some CIA/FBI/MOSSAD/MI6 plan.
Originally posted by JJay55
reply to post by MilzGatez
Maybe they gave you mkultra and you are dreaming right now.
The CIA is an agency and you can look up their activity at their website. Anything else you will have to get a job there to see what they really do. Are you qualified?
Originally posted by mmiichael
It is clear who this 23 year old Nigerian guy is and that he was radicalized from a young age, as early as 15. Seen as impressionable he was convinced it was the honourable thing to sacrifice himself exploding a plane over Detroit in the name of Jihad.
Even the CIA can't create a history of someone that goes back half a decade with family and first hand witnesses in half a dozen countries.
Originally posted by MilzGatez
Originally posted by JJay55
reply to post by MilzGatez
Maybe they gave you mkultra and you are dreaming right now.
The CIA is an agency and you can look up their activity at their website. Anything else you will have to get a job there to see what they really do. Are you qualified?
Maybe u should do some research about it, LOL CIA Website? Oh please and you gonna believe every single line that comes from there? Do you actually believe they would ever put up information on their plans/activities? If thats the case, then the whole US government should be putting every little activities they do on paper and make it public,
Well, Do you work for the CIA? ARE YOU QUALIFIED? you sure seem typing like you are
Originally posted by Flakey
Originally posted by mmiichael
It is clear who this 23 year old Nigerian guy is and that he was radicalized from a young age, as early as 15. Seen as impressionable he was convinced it was the honourable thing to sacrifice himself exploding a plane over Detroit in the name of Jihad.
How do you know this!? How do you know he was radicalized at age 15? That he was seen as impressionable? Are you party to some secret CIA terrorist biography that we are not?
Even the CIA can't create a history of someone that goes back half a decade with family and first hand witnesses in half a dozen countries.
Do you think the CIA is incompetent? That making a fake history for someone is not something an intelligence agency knows how to do?
Honestly, I can respect rational skeptics but blind debunkers that repeat TV talking points are a bane and a burden to real skeptics everywhere. GovernentFlu makes a good point about scopolamine. PBS did a show about it on Frontline so you can trust the reality of it.
It is a powerful drug and I would not be surprised if our intelligence agency or any other had their own hot houses full of the stuff. It's a better truth serum than sodium pentathol.
Is it possible the CIA had their hands in this and used scopolamine to get the suspect to do as they wished? Yes, anything is possible. Is it possible that the sources of Umars' radicalization can be confirmed? Sure but first please do enlighten me, What the heck is this idea of radicalization? Spontaneous radicalization. Its been a news buzz word in the media in the last few days. Just what is it? Is it where someone goes fro being normal to being super radical cool? Is it where a muslim suddenly decides to hate freedom and good guys? Is it a process or does it happen instantly?
Since you seem to know a thing or two about the subject hopefully you can clarify how,why,who,when,where, and what of it?