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Bombshell Eyewitness Revelations: Confirmed FBI Cover-up Of Flight 253 Attack

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posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 12:34 AM
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non kurt haskel passenger sees the same second man taken off the flight.

Daniel Huisinga:



go to 3:20




posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 01:04 AM
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Originally posted by Night Watchman

Originally posted by L.HAMILTON


The MSM is ignoring along with the FBI is an important part of this story that originally was covered and taped by CNN. The eyewitnesses account (Kurt Haskell) that gave testimony of what happened when a " well dressed wealthy looking Indian man " was giving assistance to the accused bomber. ..www.youtube.com... I believe this is another staged ( weak) attempt to keep this ' War on terrorism going'.

www.infowars.com
(visit the link for the full news article)


I know some of you love to paint the MSM as this monolithic group of propagandists but in this case you are way off base. The Haskells have been on every MSM outlet today telling what they saw at the check in counter and at least CNN had an interview with a woman who saw the man taping the incident.

I have one question about the alleged camera man. If he knew the attack was going to take place, why would he record it since if it was successful the evidence would have been destroyed in the explosion?
I don't believe that this scenerio was intended to go any further than it did.



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 01:58 AM
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It's possible the Haskells saw a different young black African go through the experience they related. Not enough information available to say as yet.

It is clear who this 23 year old Nigerian guy is and that he was radicalized from a young age, as early as 15. Seen as impressionable he was convinced it was the honourable thing to sacrifice himself exploding a plane over Detroit in the name of Jihad.

Even the CIA can't create a history of someone that goes back half a decade with family and first hand witnesses in half a dozen countries.

We have an important failed suicide bomber. Hopefully a lot of intelligence will be derived.

The CIA is not obliged to tip their hands so people on conspiracy sites will be satisfied. They never believe anything anyways.



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 02:57 AM
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Originally posted by TheRepublic
non kurt haskel passenger sees the same second man taken off the flight.

Daniel Huisinga:
((snip))

go to 3:20


This guy relates that looking into the suspects eyes and observing no emotion, no discernible expressions.

Sounds like the CIAs drug of choice: Burundanga (scopolamine) which places people in a "trance like state" where they are open to suggestion and don't remember a damn thing about what happened... similar to a date rape drug.

..one moniker for Burundanga is "CIA drug", also called "Nightshade".

"Under its influence, we are told, you remain lucid and articulate yet absolutely compliant to any suggestion. When you awaken, you have no recollection of what has happened. Colorless, odorless, and tasteless, the drug is slipped into drinks and sprinkled onto food. Victims become so docile that they help thieves rob their homes and empty their bank accounts. Women have been drugged repeatedly over days, gang-raped or rented out as prostitutes, or convinced to willingly give up their own children."

"X was invited to spend a relaxing week-end at a luxury hotel as a guest of his friend George Bush. The evening started with cocktails and was followed by a fine meal. "Nothing but the best were the orders." Following the meal, he was ushered into the suite of a blonde "bomb-shell," supplied by the CIA. A dose of Burundanga had been ingested during pre-dinner cocktails. "

Links:
www.singingtotheplants.com...
www.docstoc.com...
earthops.org...
www.stewwebb.com...



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 03:13 AM
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Originally posted by GovtFlu

This guy relates that looking into the suspects eyes and observing no emotion, no discernible expressions.

Sounds like the CIAs drug of choice: Burundanga (scopolamine) which places people in a "trance like state" where they are open to suggestion and don't remember a damn thing about what happened... similar to a date rape drug.


Of course this guy looking into the suspects eyes is a better source than the father, friends, teachers, Al Qaida handlers who dealt with him on a day to day basis for years.

Conspiracists love fantasy - hate hard facts.



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 03:31 AM
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You are in an up hill battle mmiichael...I commend you!

Why don't we continue to keep an eye on the story, but also remember it is an active investigation now.

Think locally, if your house was robbed and the police had a suspect and some witnesses were talking to the police, do you want ALL that information out in the open so the other possible suspect are now in the know that they might be found out?

Not everything is a conspiracy, but then again, this is ATS and majority-wise, a conspiracy site.



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 03:54 AM
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Originally posted by ownbestenemy
reply to [url=http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread530293
You are in an up hill battle mmiichael...I commend you!

Why don't we continue to keep an eye on the story, but also remember it is an active investigation now.

Not everything is a conspiracy


Nice to know there's an analytical mind around instead of the usual freak out conspiracists.

What happened Christmas day can't be kept secret. It happened in a very public place with hundreds of eyewitnesses.

The intelligence agencies tracking a network have to move fast and try not to tip off accessories and facilitators.

My sense is this guy was being herded and supplied by pros but the handlers were junior league. These chemical mixtures have to be mixed in the exact ratios otherwise they go off too soon or don't work at all.

A botched operation but maybe some good leads will come out of it.





[edit on 30-12-2009 by mmiichael]



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 04:12 AM
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Originally posted by L.HAMILTON

Bombshell Eyewitness Revelations:Confirmed FBI Cover-up Of Flight 253 Attack


www.infowars.com

eyewitness experience of the Flight 253 attack and how the FBI detained a second man after dogs detected a bomb in his luggage on The Alex Jones Show today. The FBI has not only ignored Haskell’s story, but they have launched a cover-up by refusing to even acknowledge the existence of another man who filmed the entire flight, including the aborted attack, as well as the well-dressed man who aided the bomber to board the plane even though he had no passport and was on a terror watch list
(visit the link for the full news article)


mod edit, space added in title

[edit on Tue Dec 29 2009 by DontTreadOnMe]


How long until AJ reveals that the Haskell's are just Charlie Sheen.

AJ = debunked douche bag.

Listening to him actively makes you stupider.



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 07:20 AM
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Uhm, the source is not Alex Jones. It's a CNN footage.

Ad Hominum if all else fails?

[edit on 30-12-2009 by conar]



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 07:31 AM
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Originally posted by GovtFlu

Originally posted by TheRepublic
non kurt haskel passenger sees the same second man taken off the flight.

Daniel Huisinga:
((snip))

go to 3:20


This guy relates that looking into the suspects eyes and observing no emotion, no discernible expressions.

Sounds like the CIAs drug of choice: Burundanga (scopolamine) which places people in a "trance like state" where they are open to suggestion and don't remember a damn thing about what happened... similar to a date rape drug.

..one moniker for Burundanga is "CIA drug", also called "Nightshade".

"Under its influence, we are told, you remain lucid and articulate yet absolutely compliant to any suggestion. When you awaken, you have no recollection of what has happened. Colorless, odorless, and tasteless, the drug is slipped into drinks and sprinkled onto food. Victims become so docile that they help thieves rob their homes and empty their bank accounts. Women have been drugged repeatedly over days, gang-raped or rented out as prostitutes, or convinced to willingly give up their own children."

"X was invited to spend a relaxing week-end at a luxury hotel as a guest of his friend George Bush. The evening started with cocktails and was followed by a fine meal. "Nothing but the best were the orders." Following the meal, he was ushered into the suite of a blonde "bomb-shell," supplied by the CIA. A dose of Burundanga had been ingested during pre-dinner cocktails. "

Links:
www.singingtotheplants.com...
www.docstoc.com...
earthops.org...
www.stewwebb.com...



When I saw the video, something like that also came to my mind, from what the witness said about his actions and emotions seems like he was under some drugs, been brainwashed/mind controlled or he just has a really big mental problems with a lot of cold hate.

And also, Why they talking about using newer scanners so damn quickly like if it is was being planned to do so and using this event to push it out quickly, that sure will convince the people who now have fear to accept it to feel more "safer".

Something about this event doesnt add up at all, after all these years,after all these hyped up security and someone manage to get on board with nothing at all, then with other reports of a 2nd man, and an guy who helped him get through then seeing him again hours later in another country, seem like this guy has that much power over basically the airport security and the people who are responsible in making sure no one gets through the check point onto the plane, Who does this guy work for is the question, Who sent him? Who gave him that much clearance?Why the perp seem to be so comfortable with him?How long they knew each other?, there's are sure a lot of questions that needs to be answered



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 07:44 AM
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Do people really believe that the CIA is an organization with the main goal to mind control 300,000,000 Americans? That's kinda funny.

This Nigerian student was the fourth president of the Islamic Society to face terrorism charges. Which means that not only are there hidden training camps for AQ but also Universities are serving as places where muslims are groomed to attack non-muslims... not to mention mosques which have always been a traditional place for that activity.

www.timesonline.co.uk...
"Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, 23, a former president of the Islamic Society at University College London, advertised speakers including political figures, human rights lawyers and former Guantánamo detainees."

How can we be so fooled by this religion of peace (tm) and think it's a CIA plot instead? sheesh.



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 07:48 AM
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I hear you bro but try convincing half of the people on ATS that.. they are to busy looking for and believing stupid ideas to spruce up their boring lives than accepting the truth.

Any moron should be able to see this was an attempted terrorist attack and not some CIA/FBI/MOSSAD/MI6 plan.



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 07:50 AM
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This whole incident reaks of false flag operation with the intention of sudstantiating some military action by the Obama gangster regime.

After thinking why a person would video tape while all this comotion was going on made me think that the person behind the video camera may not have known that blowing up the plane was the mission. In fact, the video camera man could have also been lied to as part of the operation and was tasked to record what went down because he did not know what would transpire. While this is plausible, I tend to believe that the video man knew in advance that the bomber would not be able to explode and as such his job was to record. Only by knowing the bomb would not work in advance would substantiate the logic over why the video man followed a suicide bomber onto a plane if not to record and be a witness to the patsy being used.

If in fact the video man knew that bomb would not work in advance then this whole thing would then make the young terrorist crotch bomber a "PATSY" for some operation he was pulled into without knowing what was really going to take place. I would agree that anyone charged with videotaping would have died in any in flight explosion and as such if leads me to conclude that the video man was either also an uninformed patsy or was informed enough to know his life would not be in danger. The whole operation would then be a false flag operation carried out in order to have someone to charge with terror.

The fact that the Indian man did all the talking makes it appear as if his role was direct handler with crotch bomber. The mission from the Indian mans perspective was to get him on board with no documentation.

Afterwards while on board the young terrorist would then detonate at some predetermined point of the flight or upon landing. Since the final moments of this attack did not did not detonate the bomb and since there was no final explosion, we are left to conclude that either the bomb was set to be intentionally faulty as the bomber attempted to detonate so that it would not detonate but still be enough to create an international incident that could be defined as terrorism. It is the aftermath that just has too many holes and as such there is more to this story that needs to be known and or uncovered.

In this way, the video man would be safe because he already knows the bomb will not explode and yet the deed would have been attempted and the panic and response towards the bomber would have already been taken. It just appears that the bomb was not really meant to go off and that makes the carrier a "PATSY" who was video taped carrying out a crime which could and probably will be used against him as evidence which is needed to convict him with a terrorist crime later. It is the attempted explosion that is the only act needed to allow Obama to reataliate against Sadam Hussein....oh, I forget, weve already run that drill, this is about Yemin and the Suddan and such so whatever covert reasons Obama has for this failed terrorist action is sure going a long way to distract from the anger over the health bill and to draw attention away from internal issues that are proving Obama the failure he repeatedly shows us to be. Regardless the reason this terror act is a false flag.

I just think the FBI or the intelligence agencies are not going to do anything meaningful if indeed this was an inside job. In fact it would be there role to undermine a real investigation and as such we should continue to qustion why surveillance footage from Amsterdam and within the airlines has not been released unless that footage shows and or proves that this whole incident and the patsy in question is nothing but a player in some operation being run by CIA intelligence which then will be investigated by the same agencies to prove the patsy did it. Only in this fashion can those criminal members withing the FBI and intelligence agencies remain hidden.



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 07:56 AM
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Originally posted by JJay55
Do people really believe that the CIA is an organization with the main goal to mind control 300,000,000 Americans? That's kinda funny.

This Nigerian student was the fourth president of the Islamic Society to face terrorism charges. Which means that not only are there hidden training camps for AQ but also Universities are serving as places where muslims are groomed to attack non-muslims... not to mention mosques which have always been a traditional place for that activity.

www.timesonline.co.uk...
"Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, 23, a former president of the Islamic Society at University College London, advertised speakers including political figures, human rights lawyers and former Guantánamo detainees."

How can we be so fooled by this religion of peace (tm) and think it's a CIA plot instead? sheesh.


LOL and who said anything about CIA controlling 300,000,000 Americans?
And if they pulled off MKULTRA on people back in the days, What makes you think they wont do it again, or even stopped that program at all?

Or you just gonna say MK-ULTRA is just made believe? or twist other people statements?


and " also Universities are serving as places where muslims are groomed to attack non-muslim?

Do you actually believe that yourself? Do you know anything about being a muslim is? or even been in mosques?

Sure their might be some muslims that are that bad but then again, every type of men or women, religion or race, are capable on doing the same exact thing, that part is just human nature


[edit on 30-12-2009 by MilzGatez]



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 07:58 AM
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Originally posted by jonny2410
reply to post by JJay55
 


I hear you bro but try convincing half of the people on ATS that.. they are to busy looking for and believing stupid ideas to spruce up their boring lives than accepting the truth.

Any moron should be able to see this was an attempted terrorist attack and not some CIA/FBI/MOSSAD/MI6 plan.

Aeons and I were trying to form a percentage of the *SNIP* who make up those on ATS who want to spin it into some wild fantasy just to see how it would play out once the big fireworks start. I figure like the presidential vote it's about 50/50. There will be those who expect welfare and the government to fix everything, these will be the same people who had no faith in the government and came up with stupid conspiracy theories. Katrina is the prime example. Hello, there's a hurricane coming, you are going to die, oh the government is lying to us to make us move out of our homes, oh sheit my house is underwater, the government screwed us. um, huh? Same mentality. Those of us who recognize it will have to take care of those dumbazzes... or maybe just let them drown to clean up the gene pool.
All this after-the-fact bs is just.... bs. Those of us who work on prevention just have our hands full and analysis doesn't look good.

Anyway. This Nigerian said there were 25 other would-be bombers in action. That means we are on red alert, attacked with a defined attacker on their way for more attacks. The American public has been warned... best of luck.

(it's Miss JJay, my style of communication might sound male but I'm not.)

[edit on 30-12-2009 by alien]



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 07:59 AM
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Maybe they gave you mkultra and you are dreaming right now.

The CIA is an agency and you can look up their activity at their website. Anything else you will have to get a job there to see what they really do. Are you qualified?



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 08:05 AM
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Originally posted by JJay55
reply to post by MilzGatez
 

Maybe they gave you mkultra and you are dreaming right now.

The CIA is an agency and you can look up their activity at their website. Anything else you will have to get a job there to see what they really do. Are you qualified?



Maybe u should do some research about it, LOL CIA Website? Oh please and you gonna believe every single line that comes from there? Do you actually believe they would ever put up information on their plans/activities? If thats the case, then the whole US government should be putting every little activities they do on paper and make it public,

Well, Do you work for the CIA? ARE YOU QUALIFIED? you sure seem typing like you are



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 08:11 AM
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Originally posted by mmiichael


It is clear who this 23 year old Nigerian guy is and that he was radicalized from a young age, as early as 15. Seen as impressionable he was convinced it was the honourable thing to sacrifice himself exploding a plane over Detroit in the name of Jihad.


How do you know this!? How do you know he was radicalized at age 15? That he was seen as impressionable? Are you party to some secret CIA terrorist biography that we are not?





Even the CIA can't create a history of someone that goes back half a decade with family and first hand witnesses in half a dozen countries.


Do you think the CIA is incompetent? That making a fake history for someone is not something an intelligence agency knows how to do?

Honestly, I can respect rational skeptics but blind debunkers that repeat TV talking points are a bane and a burden to real skeptics everywhere. GovernentFlu makes a good point about scopolamine. PBS did a show about it on Frontline so you can trust the reality of it.

It is a powerful drug and I would not be surprised if our intelligence agency or any other had their own hot houses full of the stuff. It's a better truth serum than sodium pentathol.


Is it possible the CIA had their hands in this and used scopolamine to get the suspect to do as they wished? Yes, anything is possible. Is it possible that the sources of Umars' radicalization can be confirmed? Sure but first please do enlighten me, What the heck is this idea of radicalization? Spontaneous radicalization. Its been a news buzz word in the media in the last few days. Just what is it? Is it where someone goes fro being normal to being super radical cool? Is it where a muslim suddenly decides to hate freedom and good guys? Is it a process or does it happen instantly?

Since you seem to know a thing or two about the subject hopefully you can clarify how,why,who,when,where, and what of it?



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 08:15 AM
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Originally posted by MilzGatez

Originally posted by JJay55
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Maybe they gave you mkultra and you are dreaming right now.

The CIA is an agency and you can look up their activity at their website. Anything else you will have to get a job there to see what they really do. Are you qualified?



Maybe u should do some research about it, LOL CIA Website? Oh please and you gonna believe every single line that comes from there? Do you actually believe they would ever put up information on their plans/activities? If thats the case, then the whole US government should be putting every little activities they do on paper and make it public,

Well, Do you work for the CIA? ARE YOU QUALIFIED? you sure seem typing like you are

I work in counter-terrorism education and have worked with many professionals from many agencies, yes.

It's quite amazing to have to deal with those who are skeptical but I completely understand. Education is important for many reasons, to eliminate fear and insecurity, to inform of current facts, to put knowledge in the minds of those who are under-educated and to prepare for the future. When people don't have the knowledge they need they will blame entities that aren't responsible, they will reach into their minds and pull out anything to rationalize their emotion rather than gaining knowledge they need to survive. It's a defense mechanism, and the enemy counts on our stupidity to conquer us.

So, if you or anyone you know is a skeptic, I suggest stopping the nonsense mkultra/CIA and other theories that make you all look foolish. Instead please understand that Islam has a distince 7 phase plan to reform the Caliphate which includes a dozen simultaneous attacks in the US in 2010. This Christmas day incident is only the beginning of more events to take place and some will succeed. It would be smart to prepare now.



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 08:17 AM
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Originally posted by Flakey

Originally posted by mmiichael


It is clear who this 23 year old Nigerian guy is and that he was radicalized from a young age, as early as 15. Seen as impressionable he was convinced it was the honourable thing to sacrifice himself exploding a plane over Detroit in the name of Jihad.


How do you know this!? How do you know he was radicalized at age 15? That he was seen as impressionable? Are you party to some secret CIA terrorist biography that we are not?





Even the CIA can't create a history of someone that goes back half a decade with family and first hand witnesses in half a dozen countries.


Do you think the CIA is incompetent? That making a fake history for someone is not something an intelligence agency knows how to do?

Honestly, I can respect rational skeptics but blind debunkers that repeat TV talking points are a bane and a burden to real skeptics everywhere. GovernentFlu makes a good point about scopolamine. PBS did a show about it on Frontline so you can trust the reality of it.

It is a powerful drug and I would not be surprised if our intelligence agency or any other had their own hot houses full of the stuff. It's a better truth serum than sodium pentathol.


Is it possible the CIA had their hands in this and used scopolamine to get the suspect to do as they wished? Yes, anything is possible. Is it possible that the sources of Umars' radicalization can be confirmed? Sure but first please do enlighten me, What the heck is this idea of radicalization? Spontaneous radicalization. Its been a news buzz word in the media in the last few days. Just what is it? Is it where someone goes fro being normal to being super radical cool? Is it where a muslim suddenly decides to hate freedom and good guys? Is it a process or does it happen instantly?

Since you seem to know a thing or two about the subject hopefully you can clarify how,why,who,when,where, and what of it?

If the CIA wanted us all dead, we all would be dead. The CIA is on our side.
But there are foreign agencies equalivant to the CIA like the ISI and AQ who do want to kill us and mind control us. The CIA are the good guys... who are defending us and killing the bad guys. And the tactics they use are pretty freeking good too.



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