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Originally posted by Alethea
reply to post by Locoman8
One of the last warnings Jesus gave his prophets was this:
"Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not."*
Do you have any idea how much time lapsed between the time Jesus said this and Paul claimed to have seen him on the road to Damascus?
It was the very thing Jesus had warned his disciples about!
Paul was an opportunist. Half of the books in the New Testament were written by Paul. Most modern religions with roots in protestantism, Catholicism, and Evangelism are based on Pauline doctrine and have nothing to do with Jesus.
Paul did not accept Jesus as any kind of special atonement sacrifice as proven by the fact that he still continued to offer sacrificial animals at the temple.
Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
edit to add: And where exactly have I been a hypocrite? Where have I said one thing, yet believed another here??? Thowing around ad hominems only serves to make you look foolish, not I...
[edit on 5-1-2010 by JaxonRoberts]
Originally posted by l neXus l
everyone read the REVELATIONS book published by the Jehovas witnesses it explains everything perfectly from the bible
Originally posted by trueperspective
reply to post by JaxonRoberts
You were never "one of me" because you have fallen away. One of the first signs that you are a true Christian is that you endure to the end.
Second, you must not be that familiar with the ancient Words because you would know that indeed God does require you and everyone else to bow the knee. Out of Romans 14:10-12
"10 Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God; 11 for it is written, “As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess  to God.” 12 So then each of us will give an account of himself to God."
Trust me you don't know anything about the word of God or you would not have abandoned it. You are more a slave to "Old words" then I, because the enemies of God have been spewing lies since the beginning and you are the baby bird that swallows the throw up of your true master.
You are a hypocrite for the simple fact that you think that you are "thinking for yourself" and "I don't allow anyone to tell me how to believe" yet you are like all the other people that follow the religion of atheism, evolution, or humanism. That old religion has been around alot longer then Christianity. Now I find that extremely funny. You are just as much dogmatic as I and yet you are following a lie. The irony is to great to be funny. I find it most sad. So rightly I have called you the hypocrite that your life displays.
Richard Dawkins: The God Delusion
“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”
Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
Wow, I didn't realize that one required your approval to be considered a 'true Christian'!!!
I am familiar with your ancient Words, but this does not mean that I still give them power or relavence. And just because the fictitious God of your Holy Book requires such does not make Him more real. And such a petty, power hungry, egotistical God would not be worthy of such a sign of respect. Very un-Divine like behavior!
Other than disgusting, this is just useless double talk. You should be a politician.
You seem to think that you have the slightest clue as to what I do and do not believe in regards to the Divine. You most certainly do not. I am certainly NOT an atheist! And I do not give the Divine the negative human characteristics that you and your religion do. I give reverence to a Divine Being that embodies nothing but positive traits... Not the traits of the Christian God, who is supposedly the same God as portrayed in the Old Testament
The difference between you and I is that you seem to think you have all the answers and think that you understand the nature of The One, which is very arrogant. I, on the other hand, realize that I lack the ability to even comprehend The Divine, and I have nothing but questions as it is impossible for mere humans to comprehend the answers... but I do recognize human BS when I read and hear it. I refuse to allow the organized religions of man to have any power over me.
The harlot woman riding the beast is the false religious system.
"But what I say to you I say to all, Keep on the Watch." - Jesus Christ, 33 AD (Mark 13:37)