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Moral conditioning of children (to become compliant) through TV cartoons

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posted on Dec, 29 2009 @ 05:53 PM
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I gave you that star and didn't mean to. However, everything in my previous post still stands. There is a lot more going on with our children, and if someone snapped and killed the child for being to loud, you would have prayed things were different.




posted on Dec, 29 2009 @ 05:57 PM
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I would assume most here have no clue about this cartoon, as its for little girls. But here is an example for you to see.

Not sure what the episode name is of the one in the OP.




posted on Dec, 29 2009 @ 06:02 PM
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Leo, the moral lesson could be applied equally to the old fogey neighbour. She should also realise that the world does not revolve around her and that her sleep may be disturbed if her neighbour has a party.

You watch the show, you know that Angelina is a goody-girl who would never hold outrageous parties every month.

Why couldn't the old fogey neighbour let the children have their fun party for one night, with their music? Why did Angelina's father so willingly submit to the will of the old fogey and agree that her 'rights' trumped all?



posted on Dec, 29 2009 @ 07:21 PM
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Why couldn't the child learn? Yes, the neighbor could learn too. However, what everyone is saying to you is that a cartoon that teaches compromise isn't bad. What you seem to be saying in return is my rights/my childs rights trump everything. Basically, you are telling us that the problem is with everyone and everything else besides you.



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 01:09 AM
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That is the old version of the show

There is a new version done with 3D computer animations



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 02:42 AM
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You are absolutely correct. Kids TV today is basically of two stripes - the PC nonsense which you describe and the other which is overly sexualized teenie bopper stuff that is marketed to 7-14 year olds. Most of it is trash.

I keep an eye on what my kids watch and there is a lot of it I don't let them watch for a variety of reasons. If you can stomach it, take in a bit of Barney. Barney, who is banned from my house always has the most delightful mix of kids on the show. One black, one asian, one hispanic, one white and at least one who is massively fat and ugly. Its as if you'd just find this mix of kids on a playground somewhere. Give me a break. I have no problem with diversity on shows and think its a good thing, but lets water it down a bit.

This not just on TV either. Children's books are also loaded with PC conditioning. I got a kids book as a gift and was checking it out prior to reading it to my son. Its about a fish that has a load of super colorful scales. None of the other fish have any scales with color. The colorful fish begins to understand that it is not "fair" for him to have all of the cool scales when the other fish have none, so he gives a red scale to a fish who is really sad about his lack of color. This makes the colorful fish feel so wonderful that he gives away all of his scales except one, that way all of the fish have exactly one colorful scale and that makes the sea a wonderful place.

What a bunch of socialist tripe. I got up and put it in the trash.



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 02:50 AM
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You really think cartoons should be teaching kids to disrespect their sleepy neighbors. I know if I was desperately in need of sleep and had some punk kid disturbing it with his music I'd be asking them to turn it down too.

I think there is enough division in this country, that's all they teach, division. Politics, religion, false paradigms and illusions to keep us from compromise and away from unity. Forging a good relationship with the neighbors is likely more important than having a noisy party, especially in this day and age when the media is telling us all our neighbors are child molesting serial murderers or drug dealers.

So I can understand your anger but I'd save it for something a little worse than telling them to keep the music down. Compromise and unity are good. The fat cat Elites are the enemy, let's not fight or bicker amongst ourselves, especially over noisy birthday parties


Reminds me of years ago when they tried to say Noise Pollution was an actual issue and I just sat there like... Noise... pollution... REALLY?



posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 02:55 PM
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Originally posted by Titen-Sxull
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You really think cartoons should be teaching kids to disrespect their sleepy neighbors. I know if I was desperately in need of sleep and had some punk kid disturbing it with his music I'd be asking them to turn it down too.
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Reminds me of years ago when they tried to say Noise Pollution was an actual issue and I just sat there like... Noise... pollution... REALLY?




Okay, so if I live next to your door for a whole year and decide to have big party for my birthday, won't you be TOLERANT ? once in a year, come on...



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 12:28 AM
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Well, they can't very well have the character say "#($*# YOU old lady I'll do what I want!" or else everyone will be all up in arms saying that it's making their children into disrespectful little twerps.

IMO while it's important to teach strength, it's equally important to teach basic respect.

What it all boils down to is the parent is 110% responsible for what the child learns on and off the tv.



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 01:23 AM
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I used to love Sesame Street when I was a wee tot. What happened?



I guess this is the cause of all my problems.



Oscar the Grouch - Clinical Depression - give me a break. Give him some Zoloft and Ritalin like all the other kids. We used to call it cranky.



[edit on 1-1-2010 by timewalker]



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