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posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by kerazeesicko
So you took a DNA test and it proves your human , yet you still claim to be an Alien...how does that work...
Maybe if there was unknown DNA in there you would have a valid argument but you don't. So tell my why don't you actually seek professional help...psychiatric to be more exact. I am not trying to insult you but it does sound like you need some.

You sound like you have schizophrenia:
Some signs

14 (13..?)foot mother-

Hallucinations are things a person sees, hears, smells, or feels that no one else can see, hear, smell, or feel

Belief you are Alien -

they believe they are someone else

You may have more signs and symptoms. People should stop encouraging these people and actually try to help them.

[edit on 31-12-2009 by kerazeesicko]


Amateur psychologists are getting rather boreing!

I guess you didn't read everything. Perhaps you should before putting your foot in your mouth.

Yes, the DNA indicates Human origins, but those origins are anomalous. The DNA indicate Indian heritage, according to my "human" family tree, there is none. The human family is strictly european. Yet, there are NO european links.

As for the psychiatric help ... I've already been down that road. They found nothing! Several even said there was nothing wrong with me, though they wouldn't admit I may be alien. The only help they offered was help copeing with being an alien. which, trust me, isn't much.

In the future, you may want to get more information before you pronounce your unqualified diagnosis.




posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 02:35 PM
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Umm I have read everything. The DNA and yourself keep saying that is shows human DNA..Indian to be exact. You can't say for certain that you know every little detail about your families background. You know who they have been contact in throughout the ages..you know eexactly where they have been throughout thier entire lives? I would guess not..and I would also say that since you don;t have any clue...that a relative from the past may have come from India or had sexual encounters with Indians.

It also did show one key point point ...ABSOLUTLY NO ANOMALOUS DNA. The science has shown you that are a Human...learn to deal with it. Nothing special about you...you are just like everyone else...minus the mental illness.

It is only wishful thinking on your behalf that it is unexplainable. These things can be a explained if you looked and I mean really look into your family history.

What kind of psychiatrist or mental health professional tells a mentally unstable person to just keep living thier delusional life..
. Who ever you saw should have thier license revoked, See a good one not a quack...like you obviously saw. Any half a**ed mental health professional would see that there is something obviously wrong with you and for one to tell you to keep believing your an Alien and to just go about your business sounds highly unlikely. You are either lying that you have seen someone or you saw a quack..which is it?

There will be no more replies from me. You are choosing to live in a fantasy world and it would be like talking to a wall.

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posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by kerazeesicko
reply to post by AnthraAndromda
 


Umm I have read everything.


Have you now. So you can explain the absence of European linkage? I bet not...



The DNA and yourself keep saying that is shows human DNA..Indian to be exact. You can't say for certain that you know every little detail about your families background.


obvously not all of them, but the important ones ... yes. My Terrestrial father went to great pains and expense to trace the family tree ... back to Scotland - 1500 or so.

I checked on the other side and traced terrestrial mother's family back to 1066 England.

So, I have a very good idea of the populations I should be linked to, and there is NO linkage.



It also did show one key point point ...ABSOLUTLY NO ANOMALOUS DNA. The science has shown you that are a Human...learn to deal with it. Nothing special about you...you are just like everyone else...minus the mental illness.


No, the science has not shown that I'm Human, in fact it shows that I may be virtually anything other than who/what I was lead to believe.

Until some basic questions are answered, this shows nothing. And for what its worth, you could probably get simular results from Chimp DNA.

Seriously, all it is currently showing is that I selected the wrong test, since this one has not provided enough data to base a determination on.



What kind of psychiatrist or mental health professional tells a mentally unstable person to just keep living thier delusional life..
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The doctors I saw were employed by Stanford University Medical School.



There will be no more replies from me. You are choosing to live in a fantasy world and it would be like talking to a wall.

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Gotta love it when someone has the stomach to follow through with their BS



posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 05:20 PM
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Originally posted by AnthraAndromda





obvously not all of them, but the important ones



As you stated...show that there is some you don't know of.



So, I have a very good idea of the populations I should be linked to, and there is NO linkage.


A good idea is not good enough. You should be able to prove this beyond a shadow of a doubt.
You are on this site claiming to be an Alien and that you have proof...so let us see how thorough the work you had done to find out everything you know about your ancestors.



Seriously, all it is currently showing is that I selected the wrong test, since this one has not provided enough data to base a determination on.


So you are using a test you deem was flawed/wrong as evidence to prove your Alien?
Why even post it if?




The doctors I saw were employed by Stanford University Medical School.

Hmmm...Standford...care to name the doctors you saw.




Gotta love it when someone has the stomach to follow through with their BS


BS? I am not the one using a test that says I am human as proof positive that I am alien...must I also remind you a test you think was flawed/wrong.

Was the Indian DNA substantial enough that it would be a major part of you..or was it trace? Substantial DNA will determine how yoou look and act...etc...Trace DNA..is nothing could be from a past relation that has since been bred out of the family tree...but some of thier DNA still lingers.

Yes we all know your white as rice...that your family says they are from so and so. That only means your family is not as knowledgeable about thier past as you think. The been white means that that part of DNA is no longer a substantial part of your DNA makeup. You can say you have no Indian in your family and keep doing so...but your own tests tell us that sometime in your family tree there was Indian in it.

Do you have any more flawed evidence you would like to provide this forum as proof of your Alien DNA. Since you say that a chimp can have the same type of DNA, maybe your part chimp..
And if Indian DNA is so common that chimp can have it then ...WHAT EXACTLY MAKES YOU SPECIAL/ALIEN?

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posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 05:21 PM
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One word - Melungeon
Google it.
Latest evidence finds DNA from India also.

[edit on 12/31/2009 by alttracks]



posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 11:57 PM
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there is his results..

reply to post by AnthraAndromda
 

You see I did go to all that effort to check your evidence!

Also I found out a little more about DNA data and Omnipop:

From GeneBase
While the Omnipop program may provide some limited information, ancestry is not its main purpose and we caution against taking the results out of context. Thus, it could be misleading if one is using the program to search for ethnic origins.



From Rootsweb Forum
It seems that OmnPop is useful right now if one wants to know the
frequencies of various markers in different populations and because it
calculates the combined probability p(i) which is needed for PCT(i).

However, the bottom line is, at this time, don't use OmniPop to estimate
what population groups you might derive from.


From what I've read Omnipop isn't completely useless as a tool for estimating your ancestry, your allele counts are compared against the frequency of such occurances in certain populations, which indicates a probability of inheritence, but not definitive.

There is another program you might like to check, but its not free:

DNA Tribes
DNA Tribes is the only personal genetic analysis that compares your genetic profile to a population database that includes over 348,000 individuals from 1,040 populations


Also note that there is African American, European American, and Hispanic American hits.

Andras, You can check yourself how much you know about your ancestry, see if you can find and name your grandparents great grandparents, in total there should be 32 ancestors, if you can only find a couple of lines your father followed then you know there is a lot of other possibilities.

If Omnipop is accurate, I think there is still the large possibilities of gypsie, melungeon, or indian ancestry which explains your alleles called which are common to indians.

Basically Andras, I find this is not evidence you are an alien.
If you are an alien then you have the same nucliec acids which comprise earthling dna, you have it in the same composition as humans, you have the dna patterns (alleles) at the same markers (locus) as humans, and these alleles are the same patterns as humans. Also none of your alleles called are even rare for humans(ie less than 24 at D21S11)

Cheers
CCC

Edit: Picture wasn't showing properly.

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posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 05:16 AM
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This remains to be proven.


Exactly.



Perhaps to raise the level of consciousness of enough people that the Pleiadean Federation will determine that it is okay to show themselves.


Swiftly followed by......



I have presented evidence, so may I ask; WTF is your problem?


Nice work


The sad truth of it is that you are not an alien here to 'raise the level of consciousness' but you are in fact a sixty-two year old Texan with an overactive imagination.

You have got to love the idea that an enlightened alien being would ask a poor helpless human "WTF is your problem?"

Keep up the good work



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 07:01 AM
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Am I'm missing something? How does a test saying you're a human of Indiana decent prove you're an alien? I understand that you though you were supposedly of European decent, but if you were an alien, why would it come up as any human race?



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 07:09 AM
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Originally posted by King_John
Am I'm missing something? How does a test saying you're a human of Indiana decent prove you're an alien? I understand that you though you were supposedly of European decent, but if you were an alien, why would it come up as any human race?



The guy is in denial.

He talks about his 13 ft tall Mother and looking out from Motherships, if he's seen all that why doe he need a test in the first place.

My guess is the Milkman was a Hindu



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 08:49 AM
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I was waiting for this thread to appear.

I honestly wish it could have been different to the shambles it is, but hey, you can’t have everything.

Your self-proclaimed budget DNA test has proven that you are Human – but it has revealed familial history that you are obviously uncomfortable with. That your supposed ancestry is not what you expected (in more ways than one) must be galling.


This report, while showing a Human-like DNA…


It shows you are Human.


Though, looking at me, I should only be linked to European populations.


Your appearance can be misleading, as can be an assumption as to your history.

I have a friend who is French, pale of complexion, blonde haired, extremely European looking.

Her paternal grandmother was black.


…while this is probably not definative proof…


It proves you are Human. Did it reveal you are anything else?


Honestly, I expected the analysis to show that I was a solid Scot/English person…


Wasn’t it supposed to throw up non-Human DNA?

As to your Scottish lineage (you have not tried to hide your real name): there are approximately 312,899 people with your surname in the USA.

Do you think they are all ethnically European?

How in depth has your family been researched? ie; has this research gone beyond the normal and mistaken acceptance that because you carry a certain name, the history of that name and all of its uninterrupted connections applies to you?

Just because you have a surname that links you to European Royalty does not automatically mean that is where your family originated, unless, of course, you can offer evidence.


Our greatest responsibility is to be good ancestors." Jonas Salk (American Microbiologist, 1914-1995)


How appropriate.



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 09:49 AM
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Similar story over here:
www.davidicke.com...



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 01:37 PM
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Thanks for linking that, I flashed on reading something on this before when Anthra made his thread.



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by King_John
Am I'm missing something? How does a test saying you're a human of Indiana decent prove you're an alien? I understand that you though you were supposedly of European decent, but if you were an alien, why would it come up as any human race?


I didn't say it proves I'm alien. Further, I would contend that the current results, as minimal as they are, show both how little Human science knows of your own genone, but that alien species may be closer related (genetically) than anyone expects.



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by Beamish
reply to post by AnthraAndromda
 

Your self-proclaimed budget DNA test has proven that you are Human – but it has revealed familial history that you are obviously uncomfortable with. That your supposed ancestry is not what you expected (in more ways than one) must be galling.

Your appearance can be misleading, as can be an assumption as to your history.

I have a friend who is French, pale of complexion, blonde haired, extremely European looking.

Her paternal grandmother was black.


I'm sure ... I'm also sure that her DNA would reveal a French link. I actually have less of a problem with the Indian links than I do with the absense of European links.




…while this is probably not definative proof…


It proves you are Human. Did it reveal you are anything else?


Honestly, I expected the analysis to show that I was a solid Scot/English person…


Wasn’t it supposed to throw up non-Human DNA?


That would have been nice, however, it was not expected. I also did not expect what I got, but, in some sort of strange way, it makes sense. Unfortunately the test I had done did not yield enough data to make a decision. There is still a matter of where my X and Y chromosomes might lead, that will be the next logical test.



As to your Scottish lineage (you have not tried to hide your real name): there are approximately 312,899 people with your surname in the USA.

Do you think they are all ethnically European?

How in depth has your family been researched? ie; has this research gone beyond the normal and mistaken acceptance that because you carry a certain name, the history of that name and all of its uninterrupted connections applies to you?


Actually, my terrestrial father had a professional family tree researched nearly 30 years ago. This research was quite extensive, again unfortunately, I don't have access to those documents, I'm not even sure if they still exist.

I do know that through the Stewart and the Harris lines, the family history dates back to around 1066, and is a very solid European line. And, again, it is the absense of those European links that is the most curious.



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by AnthraAndromda

Did you miss the part about NO Indian people in the family tree? Would have to be there for the linkage to show up.


Did you miss the part about ancestry going back further than 600 years? Unless you can trace your family tree back to a couple of monkeys then your going to be hard pressed to prove that there's no way you can have indian genes.
The fact that you've mentioned in other posts about how pale you are makes you seem a little naive about this whole ancestry thing. I could well have indian/african/chinese genes in me somewhere, but I wouldnt deny the possibility simply because I have blonde hair. There's more to your genes then skin, hair, and eye colour.



And, true, if you sent in your cats dna for testing, then nothing human would show up, however, IF you sent in a sample from another primate (like a Chimp), it just might. There are some biologists who currently think that some of Human genetics may have been brought to Earth by asteroids, comets, etc. This would give rise to the probility that alien and humans may share some genetic material. Again, Earth's lack of biological understanding is limiting us.


So in all the contact you've had with your mother, and your money issues, you havent thought to enquire about any genetic similarities before forking out for a test that would never have brought any conclusion to your claims about being an alien?

Human genetics havent been brought here by comets. There's been articles about amino acids possibly being brought here, and maybe even bacteria being brought from mars to earth.
Its completely possible that we would share some 'building blocks' with aliens. But its a ridiculously huge jump to make from saying that alien life develops from amino acids & whatnot, to suggesting that we share the same genetics to a point where a DNA test cannot tell one species apart from another.

However we got here, we evolved from bacteria on earth. We share similar DNA to primates because that is what we evolved from.
Look at how may different species there are on this planet alone, 5 million minimum and anything up to 90 million that havent been discovered yet. There's so much variety just on this planet. And while I believe its possible that alien's could resemble us, its a majorly long shot to claim that we would be similar to the point where our DNA is 98%+ identical.
Even if such similar species were out there somewhere, that 1.6% percent means an awful lot when you look at how different we are from primates. So in fact if you were to say that we have near identical DNA to your species, the difference would have to be ridiculously small to account for all the similarities.
And when you look at how differet the species can be just on this planet, that would mean your species would have had to spend millions of years evolving, taking into account the varying factors that influence evolution on your own planet compared to ours... and then come out of that being pretty much identical to us. Apart from the height difference & length of life. Its a bit insane really.



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 04:04 PM
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Originally posted by AnthraAndromda

I didn't say it proves I'm alien. Further, I would contend that the current results, as minimal as they are, show both how little Human science knows of your own genone, but that alien species may be closer related (genetically) than anyone expects.



How do you keep on rubbishing human techniques & knowledge about DNA when you seem to know little about it yourself? Where's your frame of reference?
We may not know everything there is to know about DNA, but if your going to bash our 'limited' understanding then at least give us some clue as to what area of DNA knowledge we're lacking in compared to your advanced species' methods?
Although you probably wont be able to do that seeing as your current understanding of DNA led you to choose a test which is completely unsuitable for detecting slight differences in your DNA from humans.


Originally posted by _SilentAssassin_
Similar story over here:
www.davidicke.com...


That story is interesting... but the first test was done 11 years ago. Would it really take that long to save up for a more in-depth analysis?

[edit on 1/1/10 by Bluebelle]



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by Bluebelle

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda

I didn't say it proves I'm alien. Further, I would contend that the current results, as minimal as they are, show both how little Human science knows of your own genone, but that alien species may be closer related (genetically) than anyone expects.



How do you keep on rubbishing human techniques & knowledge about DNA when you seem to know little about it yourself? Where's your frame of reference?


Terrestrial experience. It is a rather simple fact, you have little to no experience with extraterrestrial genetics.



We may not know everything there is to know about DNA, but if your going to bash our 'limited' understanding then at least give us some clue as to what area of DNA knowledge we're lacking in compared to your advanced species' methods?
Although you probably wont be able to do that seeing as your current understanding of DNA led you to choose a test which is completely unsuitable for detecting slight differences in your DNA from humans.


Yes my personal knowledge of genetics is very limited, but then I'm a software engineer, not a biologist. I would even say that my mother's knowledge of genetics is also limited, she isn't a biologist either. However, I would say that the biologists among my people know a great deal about not only our own genetics, but about many other species from many worlds. Course, that doesn't mean that they know much about terrestrial biological technique, or nomenclature. Though, I'm sure that in the 15 years or so that they have been here, they have learned more about you than you know, and most of that from deep orbit.




Originally posted by _SilentAssassin_
Similar story over here:
www.davidicke.com...


That story is interesting... but the first test was done 11 years ago. Would it really take that long to save up for a more in-depth analysis?

[edit on 1/1/10 by Bluebelle]


I'm thinking ... probably not. While the test they need to run is very expensive, it should only cost a few thousand dollars. Sounds to me like a lack of motivation or perhaps negative motivation.



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 10:05 PM
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Interesting discovery. Keep us updated with more brother!



posted on Jan, 2 2010 @ 08:13 PM
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Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
Terrestrial experience. It is a rather simple fact, you have little to no experience with extraterrestrial genetics.


We dont. But you must have some idea of the knowledge we do have versus the knowledge your species has to make comments about our limited understanding in the first place.
Scientists may not yet know the in's & outs of some areas of DNA (diseases, cancer etc), but we do have our own genome mapped out, and so while we arent able to confirm someone to be a specific alien species, we can tell if someone isnt human.
And you obviously have DNA of some decription so its not like your species can claim to have some other form of it that we cant analyse.



Yes my personal knowledge of genetics is very limited, but then I'm a software engineer, not a biologist. I would even say that my mother's knowledge of genetics is also limited, she isn't a biologist either. However, I would say that the biologists among my people know a great deal about not only our own genetics, but about many other species from many worlds. Course, that doesn't mean that they know much about terrestrial biological technique, or nomenclature. Though, I'm sure that in the 15 years or so that they have been here, they have learned more about you than you know, and most of that from deep orbit.


They might not know much about terrestrial biological techniques yet they managed to engineer your pure alien genes to a point where you arent 14 ft tall, age normally and look EXACTLY like a human.
But then again your website states that earth was chosen for a 'soon to be born' baby. So they wouldnt have been able to fiddle about with your genes anyway.

Oh and thats another thing. Why not take some pictures of these mile-long spaceships that are supposed in earth orbit?



posted on Jan, 3 2010 @ 12:11 AM
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OKAY...not sure what to make of this. The evidence you have provided shows only human DNA nothing that is not of earthly orgin right? Just because it shows Indian DNA where you believe there should be none does not prove that you are Alien. Maybe you should get the money for a more extensive test from your 14 foot Mother opr better yet have Mother provide some of her DNA and borrow the money from those already gathered on the Mothership to have it tested...this would go a long ways to proving some of your claim by provideing actual DNA that is not of Earthly orgins.






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