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U.S. military is liaising with extraterrestrial life according to independent sources

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posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 05:22 PM
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Originally posted by np6888
reply to post by '___'omino
 


Did you actually read that link? Did you see Nov 27th anywhere?


Did you read all of Michael Salla's stuff? (from Honolulu Exopolitics Examiner) I went a. and did that
K thanks

(I'm done arguing with you, your are a believer, like a catholic)
examine more carefully

[edit on 30-12-2009 by '___'omino]




posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 05:32 PM
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As for the ascention, as I understand it; the people of Earth are no where near ready for that. To ascend takes a very long time to evolve, my people for instance, are 100's of thousands of years more evolved (advanced) than Earth, and they have not ascended. The ETs that fill your skies have not ascended, dispite 100's and 1000's of years of advancement over Earth. So, I wouldn't look for that kind of event any time soon...



Its like earth is in an artificial plane, never mind that the whole thing could be compared to a virtual reality game really, and so here in this solar system we seem to be operating 3D by our standards, in a locale, within a time we think is real as well.

Ets use phasing, and sort of slip a whole bunch of equipement, buildings, labs and even their presence in numbers, species, right under our noses.

I've seen the flashes down the vizers and the outlines.

Ive seen some of the species, and knew the buildings were there.

I was told by someone welcome home. But because we use 10% of brains as if we're alseep, and only 30% of our eyes, and also due to their own technology.

Ex. we thinks its all particles and we're percieving this, perhaps they with technology collapse it to the wave and then create their own structures around us, that we don't bump into.

But someone told me that outside our solar system, its a higher dimension. That time is an illusion really, and we're not in real time, but various locations would have their own dimensionality and their own perceptions of time.

Andromeda is a higher plane already.

Hope you reply because I find this entire topic really interesting.



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 07:31 PM
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Hehe ..you have my sense of humour ..cool!!!

Feel free to post it wherever you like lol



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 07:40 PM
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I would have put this aside 24hrs ago but after watching some videos on Google mainly Dr. Chuck Missilee. And another gent who's name is Jacobs and I believe his website is www. thinkagainproductions.com I'm all ears. Thanks
I apologize about being vague on the links



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 09:23 PM
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If ET's are our enemy, then government airplanes wouldn't be chasing them around sometimes right?

You can't fight anger with anger, try fighting anger with love.



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 11:34 PM
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Here is a real simple overview of how I understand the Universe, this is the Arabic Tranlsation of the Emerald Tablet by Hermes ...

1. It contains an accurate commentary that can't be doubted.
2. It states: What is the above is from the below and the below is from the above. The work of wonders is from one.
3. And all things sprang from this essence through a single projection. How marvelous is its work! It is the principle [sic] part of the world and its custodian.
4. Its father is the sun and its mother is the moon. Thus the wind bore it within it and the earth nourished it.
5. Father of talismans and keeper of wonders.
6. Perfect in power that reveals the lights.
7. It is a fire that became our earth. Separate the earth from the fire and you shall adhere more to that which is subtle than that which is coarse, through care and wisdom.
8. It ascends from the earth to the heaven. It extracts the lights from the heights and descends to the earth containing the power of the above and the below for it is with the light of the lights. Therefore the darkness flees from it.
9. The greatest power overcomes everything that is subtle and it penetrates all that is coarse.
10. The formation of the microcosm is in accordance with the formation of the macrocosm.
11. The scholars made this their path.
12. This is why Thrice Hermes was exalted with wisdom.
13. This is his last book that he hid in the catacomb.

This is considered the oldest of the "Great Mysteries" and likely predates the arrival of the Anunnaki, and the ancient "gods" of Sumer

Even though a lot of this will be relevent to the current discussion (its likely to show who exactally is running Earth, and who they have made "deals" with), we may want to move it a new thread. But, I agree it is an interesting topic, and something Humanity NEEDS to hear.



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 11:49 PM
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What has peace and love done in human's history? Did you know that humans are the only species on this planet that wage war on each other?? Native people (read: people who live with nature and off the land) on this planet have lived in peace and love with not only each other, but with all of nature. They've developed a great understanding with how the world works and they cycles it works in, and they still have this knowledge. Peace and love will bring us exactly where we, as a race, need to be.



posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 12:05 AM
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Nope. It had been tribal warfare that mankind emerge since the dawn of civilisation. Whatever peace amongst tribe that exists was based only on compromise and never had been one of peace or love, right up to our modern history.

Living off the land is a truth, but out of necessity for ensure an ecological balance for survival, not out of peace and love.

Peace and Love are idealisms and are only idealisms we mankind had hoped to achieve, and must continue with our attempts. Only by looking at ourselves critically will we see the beast within, and being horrified of what we truly are and capable of, will we be capable of change that must begin with us.

Knowledge is what we must have in order to change, so as to realize the directions we need to go. If we are kept in the dark and feed with BS, we will forever remain mushrooms, something powerful elite corporations running the world would desire very much for the common masses, which we must challenge today.



posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 01:53 AM
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I've said it multiple times. If you want me to believe that human-like aliens exist who are just like humans, but with modified parts (IE, Roddenberry aliens), then you have to explain to me how their species was able to achieve innovation ability and abstract thinking. In case you don't know, most humans were exterminated in the mass extinction which allowed them to exist, with the survivors only living because it just so happened that in the 4.5 billion years of Earth's history, they just so happened to exist within the right 100 thousand year range to be smart enough to survive. You take that probability, and the chances of human-like aliens are 2% of stars. add that into time range, that being the 14.5 billion years of the universe, and not to mention humans have a tendency to kill themselves off, and you end up with a very very rare chance to meet human-like aliens. Meanwhile, on earth, life forms with intelligence range from the forms of crows to whales. add their diverse diets, evolutions, and necessities, and your chances of intelligent life are pretty high, just not human.

Now let's think. let's work out a bit of logic. we know earth-like worlds are common. Hell, there's already Mars, Earth, Venus, Titus, Europa, and a few others in which we're pretty sure life could develop, or at the least the conditions are good enough. We also know that there's a couple, maybe half dozen, earth-like conditions on worlds outside our solar system. But there's one problem. Of these 12ish planets, only Earth and Venus have the same gravity, which accounts for a hell of a lot. If you want human-like aliens, you need ape-like creatures. but due to capillary action and osmotic pressure, a small change in gravity will make it so that only very tall or very short trees exist. Too tall, and life in trees has to be more able to glide, hook, and not fall. So they can't develop relationships or complex units that allow human-like emotions and thought to exist, let alone human forms. If they ever do go to the ground, they can't get food in the trees any more. Only tall species will reach these tall trees for food, as such large predators will exist. They're doomed. Small trees? arboreal life can't exist. There's no advantage for life in the trees if predators can get you, so you can't have ape-like creatures. More 02? Life is large, fast, and furious. To savage for civilized life. Savage life creates savage species. On earth, only a few groups of people in places wear death is common ever develop peaceful, sustainable civilizations. Too little 02? Complex brains can't exist. too little food for the brain. Non 02 life forms? Listen, silicon-like life is going to not look human AT ALL. because their necessities and evolutions will be completely different. these aliens would probably develop out in the outer rim of the galaxy, because carbon planets are more common inside the galactic core. Out there, they're subject to the more complex, larger elements of the galaxy. They would have no interest in a planet with carbon-based life, other than that our planet is very silicon-like. But again, our planet morphology is common. no need to bother a civilization. So what are we left with? aliens that simply do not look human. And if you're of the belief that the human form is best for tool use, you're wrong. The human form is best for primitive human tools like spears and bows. the human form utterly sucks at more complex tool use. Why do we make medical machines that look like spiders? Why so we make probe devices that look like snakes? why do we make robots that walk on all fours and have tools like bug arms? Because the human form is only good for spear hunting and archers. It is not good for technological development. That's why robots don't look human unless we want a robot that does simple things... like carry us our food and do stuff we can. Out martian probes, ocean probes, supercomputers, laser scanners, etc etc do not look human. In fact, the right form for technology is something like squid or jellyfish. why? because it has so many limbs for computer use and complex brains for such tasks.

In conclusion, I'm really beginning to get tired of grays and reptilians meeting with humans. These stories are simply not possible.

A.) we are a common planet. the only reason to be interested in us would be for niceness and lesson learning. To which such a nice people would not tolerate secrecy and closed society that our government would be doing if such was true.

B.) Human typology is not common. in all of Earth's history, only 2 species out of hundreds of millions that have existed have become upright bipeds: humans and penguins. And only one of those is intelligent.


So unless you have a reasonable tale of how our species could exist anywhere else, stop making up tales.



posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 02:30 AM
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Hi iam am anti-alien. I believe in the power of gods, i believe that the human are the real humans and not the aliens. We have done all this... aliens didnt help us, they working against us if they exist. Its also my opinion that most of the alien stuff is desinformation, they are the patsy of the us government.

Might be interesting for most of you, i have got a "alien" contact. I think it was it maybe i was just to stoned and imagined, but i dont think so because it was only one time ive seen them.

They were operating at my brain while i was trying to get sleep or did i awake? I dont know anymore. There were several "light" creatures doing things at my brain, i saw them quite clearly but dont think it was visible by others. They stood around me some of them were partial into the wall beside my bed, maybe they were ghosts of doctors just wanted to annoy me, i dont know...

But it was very strange. Did anyone have a similar experience?



posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 11:25 AM
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The Obama administration announced yesterday the release of 400 million pages of previously classified documents.
The documents cover WW II, the Cuban missle crisis, and the end of the Cold War.
The documents are slated to be released over the next four years.



posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 12:11 PM
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People can't handle with this kind of denounce like "OMG the army is involved with aliens", just 'cos for more than 30 years several reliable persons had been claiming that. Including former military, former astronauts and people related to space program of several nations. In the USA, straightly from NASA, Aldrin, Mitchell, Cooper and Clark McClelland exposed the exchange program btwn aliens and US government. Other heavy names related to US army as John Lear, Col. Corso, Bob Lazar, Milton Cooper just talked lot about it. Also former russian cosmonauts as Alexandr Baladin and Pavel Popovitch plus the former pilot Col. Marina "Lady MIG" Popovich had been talking about the massive alien activity in Earth's orbit. Anyway if there's a exchange program btwn aliens and Russia government, is still in secret. The cooperation btwn extraterrestrial beings and Earth governments/military isn't that new. It has been happening at least for 6.000 years, since Sumer, Egypt, ancient Greece, ancient India... In 99% of ancient war reports, there's the action of the "gods". There are many reports of egyptian pharaos fighting side by side with giant deities bearing powerful unknown devices, that obviously weren't made on Earth. Interesting that many ancient army commanders were under orders of "gods" fighting other "gods"... Not so far in the time, lets remember of the Nazis, whose commander said to be under orders of a sinister giant from Ultima Thule, which controlled his mind completely. I'm afraid that some ancient extraterrestrial groups are still living on Earth or around it, nowadays, using belligerent nations as USA, Russia, Iran, North Korea to attempt control the planet or to fight against other non welcome extraterrestrials, according to their interests. Anyway I'm talking about a GROUP of aliens, a dissident group. Renegades of ancient times. Not an entire race!! Unfortunately the leaders of the main nations of this planet are capable to put entire mankind in risk, in trade of some alien toys, which are probably junk in their planets, but on earth turn into dangerous weapons. But also we can't disregard that Earth is a very very important planet to the balance of this solar system, with a unique ecosystem enable to support trillion life forms. It's a rare pearl to be preserved, and most likely also there are peaceful alien groups keeping contact with our goverments. If they are going to listen to them, that's another issue...



posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 12:31 PM
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WAKE UP MAN!!!
Extraterrestrial beings have been visiting, exploring, colonizing and living in Earth BEFORE homo sapiens raise!! Cut this "god-blessed-mankind" bullsh*t. Life is for everywhere, Earth is just another grain in the cosmic sand. The "gods" of ancient civilizations were aliens, and this was said literally, not allegorically, by ancient babylonians, egyptians and hindus. Their "gods" came from Orion and Sirius. They ruled Earth kingdoms for several eras. Most likely the different ethnic groups of Earth are crossbreeding of different alien races. They brought civilization to Earth, laws, sciences, religious concepts, but also they brought ancient fights, disputes and wars. We're connected, DEAL WITH IT. If the truth was exposed by our governments we could learn about the past and to filter the goodies from the badies. Our enemy is the IGNORANCE, actually.



posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 12:46 PM
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Originally posted by Bobbox1980

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I imagine many of the alien civilizations in the galaxy have non-interference policies that preclude them from getting involved in the internal politics of different worlds.

You are right, aliens are not going to save us. Our government and many governments throughout the world are corrupt. They have no respect for freedom or individual liberty and no problem with waging war. It is not up to alien civilizations to change that nor could they even if they wanted to.

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I like stirring pots


If we take the above statements and mix it with other posts abnout the aliens being our creator(s), we could end up with something like this:

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I imagine many of the religions on earth have non-interference policies that preclude their God(s) from getting involved in the internal politics of different nations.

You are right, God(s) are not going to save us. Our religion and many religions throughout the world are corrupt. They have no respect for freedom or individual liberty and no problem with waging war. It is not up to God(s) to change that nor could they even if they wanted to.

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Simply brilliant. We could merge two major threads into one with one post.

Which brings me to my main point.
This thread like many like it are created with the evidence only being hearsay and same old stories told over and over and over.

Some mention "Credible" sources. What makes them credible?
We have seen many "great men" (and women) who should be credible lie through their teeth.
Gandhi was a racist. Mother Theresa was cruel. Clinton smoked.

A wise man said something like this about normal people vs. creationists:
We have scientists, fossils, petri dishes, microscopes etc.
They have

a book.



We have NO evidence of aliens and they have "credible but anonymous sources".



posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 01:11 PM
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The probability that the genetic makeup of a sentient being is close enough to mate with the sentient being of another world is so incredibly low that it's ridiculous. Races were created to deal with climatic differences.


Oh, and if you do believe that aliens all look humanoid, then there is a greater, master creator. Because the chances of them all looking so similar indicates a creator, IE, God. Because the probability of evolution looking so similar on such a specialized species is mute.

You should wake up. Earth is just one spec of life in a galaxy filled with it. Thus, there's no point in taking interest in such a pathetic world. We're probably quarantined if anything. Also, the chances that our government has any wait in their eyes is also mute. What's a couple primates on some dumb world got that they don't? not much.

[edit on 31-12-2009 by Gorman91]



posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 10:14 PM
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Originally posted by Zosynspiracy
Let's say this is actually the case..........why the hell would aliens be helping the US government let alone the military? Both are extremely corrupt.

If this is the case this means that these ETs are our ENEMY and when the time comes will be dealt with as such. It would be very unfortunate if Aliens worked directly with the US government and US military. But it wouldn't surprise me. People that think if ETs exist are some sort of altruistic bunch of freedom fighters for the people are naive. I think ETs if they do exist and are visiting this Earth are just as ruthless, cunning, and selfish as any human being. I think that's the scariest thing. There is no one that is going to come down to Earth and save us from the tyrannical evil scum running the world. Our "salvation" rests in our own hands. The only one that is going to chang the direction of the world is YOU AND ME!


And with who they were supposed to work soccer moms?



posted on Dec, 31 2009 @ 11:13 PM
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ok,first off humans aren't the only species that fights itself.monkeys do it,meercat raid each other,lions fight and stuff too.

second,we didn't introduce war to the americas,they already had that.we just taught them genocide.

they knew astronomical cycles and all that because that was about all there was to know!I mean with no simpsons to watch they watched the sky.there was no light pollution and the night sky is pretty awesome if you can actually see it.add counting and making fire to the mix and you're a college grad back then!Add a little plant medicine and you are a doctor.

of course this is when they weren't either loping off .s for a better harvest or sacrificing virgins for rain.or is that other way round?

good old days weren't the utopia you make them out to be.
the only thing in history i can think of where peace and love actually worked was the liberating of india.ghandi and what not.

again i say i'm not happy about it,but there is no sense in denying a truth just because it's an ugly one.

[edit on 31-12-2009 by the_grand_pooh-bah]



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 08:13 AM
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Originally posted by the_grand_pooh-bah
good old days weren't the utopia you make them out to be.


O-K, what about Caral Supe?

So in light of this your stance is generally suspect to weakness. The rest is not worth my time tearing apart.

The MIC put a lid on it way back, end of Project Blue Book if not before, after discovering that we are not only not the only intelligent ones out there, but here also...

And said intelligence does not always equate to the relative descriptive term advanced. Much of what is accomplished is our doing, and as long as we are kept believing it is not possible, the longer our ruling class will predate upon the masses.

IMO ET fulfilled a role in the distant past as builders, specifically pyramid networks for incorporeal transmission and reception among the stars, but we forgot. The incredible shrinking God(s) first dwelt among men in the habitable parts of the Earth, then in temples, then in hearts, and now faces being puffed into extinction by mere logic.

The truth of the matter is we don't control our fate. We have the freedom to live with the consequences of our choices, and that is it, and MIC doesn't have any more than we do. Earth's fate is in someone/thing else's hands, isn't that a comforting thought?



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 09:08 AM
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That is really beautiful. Poetic. You touched on the edge of the greater world.

Now that you have encompassed this, is there a course of action you suggest?

I would suggest funding for paranormal research. But who will go to Congress to be a laughingstock? Boooy, do they have us locked up tight.



posted on Jan, 1 2010 @ 09:40 AM
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so just because an archeologist found a couple artifacts from a single culture that SUGGEST they were peaceful that negates all the opposing evidence in the rest of known human history?

so if they were so great why did they die off?another tribe peace them out of existence?
I know george w. bush traveled back in time and killed them all because he thought they had oil and the leprechauns wanted their gold back.

I understand you being too busy to reply to my arguments,what with lolcats,oprah and having to clean your room so mom doesn't ground you.

I like peace,I like other cultures.
I love love.
just because something is true doesn't mean i like it.
denying a truth because it's ugly or uncomfortable is cowardice.
sorry but nature is death too,not just life.



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