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Originally posted by np6888
we don't need to waste our resources on useless humans, unless they're making an attempt to turn their life around, and become a contributing member to society.
The Chinese courts twice refused a free psychiatric evaluation for Shaikh and ignored the medical history presented by his GP.
In a statement issued after the execution, the Chinese Embassy said Mr Shaikh's rights "were properly respected and guaranteed" and British concerns were "duly noted and taken into consideration".
It said: "As for his possible mental illness which has been much talked about, there apparently has been no previous medical record."
In a statement, Mr Brown said: "I condemn the execution of Akmal Shaikh in the strongest terms... I am particularly concerned that no mental health assessment was undertaken."
The Chinese courts twice refused a free psychiatric evaluation for Shaikh and ignored the medical history presented by his GP. No evaluation was ever conducted.
According to family members, six unrelated witnesses, his GP and a consultant forensic psychiatrist , Shaikh suffered from bipolar disorder and exhibited delusional behavior.
Shaikh's case is unique because of two things: his lack of criminal history, and his long record of mental illness.
Originally posted by mckyle
You really should consider reading more than just the National Inquirer.
Here's the mortality rate for paracetamol/acetaminophen deaths:
Acetaminophen overdose is the leading cause of liver failure in the US and the United Kingdom and the leading cause of calls to the Poison Control Centers across the US. It is estimated that acetaminophen poisoning calls exceed 100,000 per year. Studies indicate that acetaminophen overdose results in over 56,000 injuries, 2,500 hospitalizations, and an estimated 450 deaths per year.
It's obvious that you don't even understand the difference between OTC and prescription-only.
Anyone can go into a pharmacy (or online for that matter) and purchase as much Tylenol as they want.
You really should consider establishing your facts before you go and ridicule/slight someone. I know that would be a novel concept to you, but perhaps you should try it in an attempt to reverse the poor reputation you already have on ATS.
Originally posted by mckyle
Originally posted by Lillydale
Please cite a source for this as it is fallacious at best and ignorant at worst. It takes for more than a couple of packets of acetaminophen to die from an overdose.
A toxic dose of paracetamol usually varies between 4 g in special populations and 6 g in the average person
I'm sorry you're not capable of doing the elementary math, so let me help
1 paracetamol/acetaminophen tablet = 325-500 mg
X 12 per packet
= 3.9 - 6 grams
You have obviously reacted to some facts your world has never come across, and inturn you simply discard as being untrue.
Originally posted by audas
Originally posted by mr-lizard
Originally posted by rcwj1975
Well regardless of how you feel about the death penalty, I am SICK and tired of this mentally ill crap defense.
How is it a grown man, or woman can claim to be mentally ill, YET have the presence of mind to set up ellaborate drug running rings with multiple players, plan out murders down to the last detail, etc... I hear this defense a lot, but its funny how mnetally ill people only claim such AFTER their caught...again, how it must be to have the MIND to know you did wrong AFTER the fact...hmmmmmmm
As for this guys case...I am NOT buying his defense. It's called the GOT CAUGHT, think of something quick defense.
Hundreds of people are out to death all over the world every year for drug smuggling and you have never ever made a post about it - why now - oh because this time the perpetrator is British, is white, is Anglo and has put forward a defense of mental instability - PLEASE - are you fcking kidding me.
Why don't you show some integrity and honesty about the issue and fess up that you are appalled that a foreign country is allowed to apply its own laws to your own kind - that your own people are subject to the laws of foreign countries - fess up that you are appalled that you find it abhorrent that you are merely an equal to other nations and not above and beyond the barbarous laws of foreign nations.
There is simply nothing quite as vile as cultural arrogance - quite grotesque. Especially from a nation such as England with the worst track record of any nation in the modern world - seriously get a grip.
Quite ironic really when you consider the historical perspective of the UK enforcing the heroin trade upon China and killing literally millions of people through enforced drug addiction in order to maintain the balance of trade payments through the spice and tea trade - do you know what irony is ?
Hong Kong was one big drug payment to the UK.
But please, don't let me interrupt your moral indignation - perhaps you could some up something about the Indians and their use of salt or cotton mills to assuage your guilt over the genocide of millions and millions of Indians over the course of 400 years int eh most abhorrent forced slavery of an entire subcontinent - how dare they use salt.....
So in your black and white world, everybody is mentally stable then?
I suggest you go and educate yourself on the varieties of mental illnesses that plague the human mind, and try and avoid your cartoon-esque imagery of mental people somehow being incapable of thought.
Originally posted by neformore
His family said he was mentally ill.
If he was, there would be GP records of it, which I'm sure the foreign office would have bought to light after being asked for assistance by the family.
Guess what though - the Chinese court received no such information in the two years the case has been running.
The guy had 4kg (141 ounces) of heroin on him - as the article rightly states thats enough to kill over 26,000 people - damn near a WMD if you look at it in one perspective.
Anyone being killed is a tradgedy for their family - I can understand that, but the simple fact is that the guy broke the law, in China, and the penalty for such is death.
Their country, their system, their punishment - none of our business
Don't want to get the death penalty in China? Don't smuggle drugs.
Sounds harsh I know, but its true.