posted on Dec, 28 2009 @ 07:26 PM
Just read these first two paragraphs unless you are interested further:
The Post got long, I basically made the assertion that you can compare identification with the dream body to identification with the Ego. It's hard
to wake up from a nightmare because the fear gets you so identified with the dream body. Nightmares and any dreams that make you heavily identify
with the dream or dream body may be necessary because they keep you asleep when you would otherwise have a hard time sleeping, it's almost a physical
necessity to a dreaming mind. I have found that these nightmares most often occur when I am anxious, having trouble sleeping. Not just nightmares,
but nightmares that specifically identify you with the dream body or dream situation. A werewolf running at you randomly is a nightmare, but you
aren't identified, it's just a phantom without a story and true dreamscape behind it.
What does that mean for the Ego? Well strong identification is required in dreaming only when the body is having a hard time sleeping. So strong
identification with the Ego would only be required with a spirit who is having trouble doing whatever it is a spirit does when it enters this world.
Identification with ego might just be a symptom of a troubled soul. That begins to sound very redundant, everyone knows that, right? Yes but we are
using dreams as the metaphor, something everyone does. Also, what I'm saying is that it becomes as helpful to an adult Ego as a nightmare is to a
child, it keeps both sleeping. If the child wakes up, he loses sleep. If the adult "wakes up" in the wrong state of spirit, he perhaps loses his
mind, or his confidence.
I've begun to notice that when I have trouble going to sleep, usually anxious on Sundays, I always have the worst dreams. I usually dream I am
sitting in my bed and cannot go to sleep, that I'm not tired at all, and I am sure I will be exhausted tomorrow. I often argue with people at the
top of my lungs in these dreams. Run around straining my muscles in exertion. It is a trip down dysfunction lane, full of making every mistake
Why would the mind do this? I begin to believe that all of those things identify me with my dream body, the dream situation. Much like suffering
identifies us with the Ego. Fear of not being able to sleep, physical exertion, shouting matches. I used to think that if I overexerted in a dream,
it would all but instantly wake up and lose the dream. That's not true. Mental excitement, when you are thinking totally outside of what's
happening, "Wow I am dreaming, Wow I am flying, etc." That's what wakes you up, that thought from outside the dream that is sort of observing and
commentating. But physical exertion by itself, if you are identified with the dream, only makes the dream stronger. Which is good, if you want the
dream to last. I recently was in a dream very bored with my family on a peaceful night, and kept it going by flexing and swinging my arms at my
So in a way dreams are there to keep us sleeping, they distract you from outside noises, your own breath, your own pain. This may be why it's so
difficult to wake up from nightmares when you are young. The fear has you distracted, identified with the situation before you so much. You usually
can't reason most of the times in dreams which is why you often don't realize you are dreaming even when something impossible happens. Most of the
times you go lucid it is on the occasion that your logic is working in tandem with the dream.
And during that nightmare, you think something evil is occuring to you against your will. Really, it's your mind creating a situation that you will
identify with, and you will stay asleep during. Especially for kids. Think about how junky some kids are. I was pretty junky as a kid. Could eat
candy forever, play video games forever. The body and the mind could not sleep without some serious nightmares to get us identified with the dream
body instead of our real bodies, which were probably btw twitching from the overdose of sugar and our minds in overdrive from video games.
Identification with ego may be similar to this. It could be a protection of some kind. Almost as if the people who are heavily identified with the
ego have some problems occuring spiritually, and they really need that identification to "stay" on this level. Without the ego, they would begin to
wake up and lose their minds. On the other hand, you have those who are more spiritually relaxed and inclined, in worlds we cannot see or reach, they
don't have so much need for the Ego. Their spirit bodies "sleep" or rest peacefully with few problems, and so they need no ego in life to balance