The Steorn magnetic motor replication by JL Naudin, page 19


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reply posted on 14-1-2010 @ 11:17 AM by buddhasystem
Originally posted by Korg Trinity
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I have been in touch with Steorn and pointed them to this thread. I have had a response so this thread is being monitored directly!!


That's good to know. I feel more inspired now. Maybe these dopes will learn something here on ATS.


reply posted on 14-1-2010 @ 11:20 AM by Korg Trinity
Originally posted by buddhasystem
Originally posted by Korg Trinity
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post by djcubed



I have been in touch with Steorn and pointed them to this thread. I have had a response so this thread is being monitored directly!!


That's good to know. I feel more inspired now. Maybe these dopes will learn something here on ATS.


You're comments are welcome and I respect your opposing opinions, but your last comment I feel was defamatory.

Peace Out!

Korg,

[edit on 14-1-2010 by Korg Trinity]



reply posted on 14-1-2010 @ 11:28 AM by djcubed
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Completely agree with you!~ Just waiting for the team of debunkers and skeptics to hit this one... I would like to know what they have to say about the most recent tests.

Personally I think we can throw the old book out already (just like my old Bio 101 book that the teacher had us rip out the outdated science pages in). Time to move on to a different way of thinking about energy. And also question why the government hasn't released any of their research on the matter. At times like this... what a relief it would be to Haiti to bring a "free" energy device to help supply power for all of those people.

That's the saddest part of all... Forget about the selfish USA... I'm talking for the 3rd world that needs it. And your telling me the US doesn't know anything about free power when we have a large group of scientists in our country that swear they have seen, used, or come close to an OU device?


reply posted on 14-1-2010 @ 11:46 AM by MajorDisaster
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djcubed, I applaud your ideals. And I agree with you in that I do think there is a conspiracy to keep all this stuff suppressed.

But Steorn may not be the right leaders to bring the technology out. It is clear that none of them can explain where the energy is actually coming from or why. They just say "This device appears to create energy, which is supposed to be impossible."

Meanwhile there are guys like Bearden and Bedini who have already provided comprehensive explanations of the physics and mathematics involved. They are way ahead IMHO.


reply posted on 14-1-2010 @ 11:54 AM by djcubed
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Agreed... They have shown it and theorized the physics behind it... although they are still laughed at. We also have Greer and his super scientists doing who knows what for free energy. The more and more it's proven and shown... the less and less old science will hold up.

The fact is that no one can explain where this energy comes from yet... only because no one is willing to except it.


reply posted on 14-1-2010 @ 12:03 PM by MajorDisaster
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I don't see why the idea that the entire Universe is one giant holographic field of energy with mind-boggling (10^127) energy density is so hard for people to accept.

Makes perfect sense to me.


reply posted on 14-1-2010 @ 12:09 PM by djcubed
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I try to explain how there is a time density to people sometimes... and mostly they tend to agree with that. Then when you tell them that because of this time can equal power and mass they all start to loose their minds and can't follow because of what they saw in back to the future or something. Personally I don't find it that difficult of a concept to except.



reply posted on 14-1-2010 @ 01:56 PM by TheRedneck
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Wouldn't it be wiser to sell the power back? Then others could benefit from the surplus?

Well, shooting the lines down would be a last resort if I were being sued for stealing power and the utility refused to take the lines down themselves. But I would prefer to keep the grid attached through an emergency relay. Everything breaks down eventually.

I'm not really interested in selling power back. In the first place, I can build a system quicker and easier if I limit the power output to what I need. Secondly, you do not get the full cost of the power back if you sell it to the utility. let me explain that:

It is now a law in the US that if you manage to produce enough power to feed some back into the grid, the utility has to pay you for that excess power. However, all power is not priced the same. Large producers sell based on different rates for different peak times; power at midnight is cheaper than power at 8:00PM, for instance. In order to get those prices, the generating utility must be able to show when power was sold and at what rate. Equipment to log this is very expensive. Without it, you will receive the lowest rate the utility paid for that month.

A generator will only feed power back into the grid if the voltage on the generator exceeds the voltage of the grid. That condition only happens when there is a high demand for electricity, causing the voltage to drop a bit. Thus, you are selling electricity at the lowest rate, when in reality you are supplying it at the peak rate times. On the other hand, if your system has a slight problem keeping up with your personal needs, it will draw power in from the grid automatically, negating what you may have produced.

Now, consider that any tie in must be aligned with the phase of the power coming in from the grid. Depending on how in- or out-of-phase your signal is, you will experience either a perfect connection or a dead short that could destroy your system (and pop breakers all over the place). It is much cheaper and easier to simply set up your own phase and keep the two systems separate.

No, my dream is to sell generators instead of power. That empowers people, and it keeps all the technical problems at bay.

And yes, I am a redneck! Duh...

TheRedneck


reply posted on 14-1-2010 @ 02:27 PM by Matyas
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Man, I did not know that. It seems like they sew up every angle for the small farmer.

Then I am with you on the mass production of generators. Have you had a chance to review Steve's work on MTD? That is a sure-fire method to OU which I am most familiar with. And therefore my interest promoting the technology, which you seem hesitant to explore due to possible intimidating legal issues stemming from fierce competition. Or am I wrong in my assessment?

Now I am in no way promoting some illegal fabrication, but I am known for cutting corners and testing limits to get the job done. I call it the "quick and dirty". And financial enterprise I see as necessary to keep the ball rolling. If no one else lived off of money, then I wouldn't be concerned with it, but since that is obviously not the case we are forced to play that game too.

Now lets get something rolling so I can come down there, grab a case, and shoot down power lines with ya!


reply posted on 14-1-2010 @ 02:46 PM by djcubed
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As a solar power user... I will say always keep both systems seperate... and forget about the power companys... If you want to sell power and make money... run extention cords to your neighbors and charge them directly!~

And always make sure backup is in place... You are right... Everything breaks down eventually!~
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