Originally posted by expat2368
There are only two politicians in the entire country that should be elected again to anything..

Sara Palin and Ron Paul

The rest of them are just liars, cheats, and thieves...

All of them need to be thrown out and a few need to be tried for treason.

Don't forget Dennis Kucinich...... I'm proud to say he's from my state, Ohio. I just wish he represented my area. lol

As far as Mitt Romney goes, I did a lot of research on him during the run-up to the last election, and there is NO WAY I would ever vote for him for president. Even a few of the people who were running his fundraising, and involved in his campaign had questionable backgrounds.

A lot of people like him because they think with his business background, he would have a better idea of what to do to turn the economy around, but he is more of a destroyer, than a fixer. A person who is successful in business by making himself rich at the expense of others is not the type of person we need in the office of president. We have had enough of that.

AND....I DO think he is very much a part of the LDS church, he is from a generational family that is big in the leadership (from what I can remember of the research I did) and I believe he did two years of missionary work for the church as well. He also had some leadership roles in the church.

The LDS church has some very interesting background and history. I read up on it when I was looking into Romney. Some of the information I came across from former members was thought provoking, and rather scary. The ultimate goal of LDS leadership for many years has been to get a Mormon into the office of President. If you check it out, there are a few influential Mormons already in Washington DC, such as Harry Reid......just biding their time and also in the secret services like the CIA and FBI. Considering their numbers in the general population, they may even be a bit disproportionately represented in those areas.

The Mormon religion is probably one of the most aggressive there is as far as trying to convert people, and a cultlike control of the members is common. Their leadership's stated goal is to convert the whole earth. What better way to accomplish that goal, than to have *one of your own* in the most influential position there is. Presidents have a good deal of influence on national policy.

Mitt Romney would like everyone to THINK he is lukewarm about his Mormon faith, and that he would be able to make decisions without considering the church's teachings, but according to what I have read, that would not be possible for one with his background.

Originally posted by intrepid

I still haven't seen a better candidate. Please point one out to me. Not Paul(no hope in hell) or Palin(no hope in hell pt. 2).

Unfortunately you are probably right about no hope in hell for R.P. but...

unfortunately you are probably wrong about S.P. there is much love for this badass hunting momma out there. I am worried she may try to run on an independent ticket and take points from a valid Repub candidate.

I am also worried that she knows this and she will use this to blackmail the repubs into backing her.

How would you feel about a Romney/Palin ticket.?

She may nullify his negatives to alot of people.

Originally posted by joey_hv
How would you feel about a Romney/Palin ticket.?

She may nullify his negatives to alot of people.

Only if she learns to play with the big boys. She's too green for Washington. She has time.

Originally posted by intrepid
You mean the same McCain that was seen as the savior of the GOP before the election and accused of being a liberal after? McCain was a joke. Palin was a sacrificial joke. Romney isn't a joke. If the GOP wants to elevate itself to the WH anytime soon they are going to have to stop the infighting. Learn compromise within itself and do it NOW!!!

Was McCain a joke during the election? after the election? or two years before the election? If memory serves, McCain was the next great bipartisan hope long before he became the joke. He was nominated for his lack of being a joke in the beginning. No?

Its all good and fine-

I will point out that M R is a real elite, since that was such a big problem with BHO.

Historically speaking, the GOP has a snowball's chance in Hades of getting a candidate elected to the Executive Branch for the next 12+ years.

That isn't to say, however, that it isn't impossible...just improbable, if history is any indicator.

However, if the GOP would like to prove historical trends incorrect and get a candidate elected, then they are going to have to turn their party around. They have always suffered an image problem, and the political madness that has happened in the past year alone has only acerbated that a hundred-fold. They not only have the challenge of finding the perfect candidate (whether or not he is Mitt Romney), but they have to clean up their image and distance themselves from the GOP Political Pundits that have dragged the GOP image through the mud, distance themselves from Palin, and distance themselves from the Far-Right Extremists. However, each of those things come at a cost as well. Those are voter segments that the GOP has come to rely upon. However, that's what needs to be done to woo back Moderates, Independents and Swing Voters.

Mitt Romney is a candidate that might not be a squeaky-clean Boy Scout, but he doesn't carry the tarnished image or foot-in-mouth scandalous potential that Palin does.

Regardless of who the GOP chooses to be their candidate in the 2012 Elections they are facing an uphill battle, and this battle cannot be won by using the same Rule Book they relied on in 2008. If the GOP hopes to sell their candidate to the people, they are going to have to play ball above-board without mud-slinging or relying on mass hysteria like they tried doing in 2008 or it is going to leave them in the same situation they are in now. Even those Obama supporters that have grown disillusioned with Obama aren't going to jump ship unless they are presented with a viable alternative that plays fair and shows that they are working for their better interests, not for political gain. The GOP really has to understand that 2012 isn't about gaining seats for their party, as much as it is restoring the image of their party in the minds of people...and realistically, it may take longer than 2012 for that to happen.