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I have been notified that the photo in my paper was Taken from "Skjervoy" not "Tromsø." I will investigate and edit my paper accordingly. Thank you all. *
Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
reply to post by john124
Perhaps this is what you are looking for, John124.
That pretty much proves that it could not have been a missile or rocket.
Originally posted by Bspiracy
Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
reply to post by john124
Perhaps this is what you are looking for, John124.
That pretty much proves that it could not have been a missile or rocket.
really? are you serious?
why don't you give us YOUR viewpoint on why you think that .pdf "seals the deal for you..
that .pdf is FULL of observations based on ASSUMPTIONS without ANY sort of reference other than what he DIDN"T care to look up.
wow.. "proof" ??
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Originally posted by DGFenrir
reply to post by Paradox.
Sweet.. Another armchair-psychiatrist.
This is another theory which hasn't even been explained enough to consider it being a possiblility. The human mind is a very frustrating thing. It operates on such a level to mitigate stress and fear so that your memory and speculation is essentially "dumbed down." Why? Because we would rather the spiral be from aliens/HAARP/insert favourite theory here. Most people seem to accept these theories without using their brains first to think if the tech described actually can produce a phenomena like that or not.
It's the same defence mechanism that you described.
Originally posted by john124
What has a cyclotron particle accelerator have to do with the shape & colour effects from that day that appear to be a failed rocket test? Nice try, but this is about as pointless as claiming the answer is any patent that has a few fancy physicsy words that can be twisted into an assumption that such a device produces the same spiral effects, and that such a device has been used at this time and location.
There's a computer simulation of what happened, and it matches the characteristics of a failed rocket test with the same tinges. The video of the spiral over Norway is not exact because of the fairly low-resolution camera footage causing the gradual change in contrast between dark and light less obvious.
I lose faith in every conspiracy theory when I see people blaming a particle accelerator for a rocket trail, when nobody can explain how a particle accelerator can produce this spiral effect miraculously just like rocket ejecta. And copying and pasting technical jargon doesn't count! And neither does simply stating it matches the physics and electronics of a weather device, or other device, if the explanation as to how is lacking.
If someone copies and pastes technical jargon for a microwave they might end up convincing some idiot that they have discovered a time-machine!
[edit on 29-12-2009 by john124]
Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
I wonder what the new information given will change . . .
Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not
reply to post by cjhahaha
G'day cjhahaha
As I wrote previously in this thread & also in another thread about this case, I believe it was a missile test.
It looked very similar to the several previous videos of spiraling rockets/missiles that were the subjects of previous threads.
I believe the visual differences can be accounted for via the poor contrast resolution in the poor quality videos of this event.
I suspect I am in a small minority in this thread
Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not
Originally posted by DGFenrir
reply to post by Donny 4 million
Third stage puts it exactly into sight of Norway.
They don't have to say to you that their missile caused the spiral. They don't care what you think.
Photos were taken from two towns in Norway. One of the very well excludes EISCAT as being the source of the spiral.
Why would they terminate the missile when they can let it fall into the ocean, salvage it and then study it to find out what went wrong.
Maybe they forced the missile to dump the fuel?
There's nothing wrong with the trajectory.
Which way should the spiral rotate in case of right-hand circular polarization when the wave is moving away from the viewers? Clockwise or counter-clockwise?
And also if this theory is correct then shouldn't the spiral appear right above the transmitters? And be aligned with the magnetic field? In the photos and videos it's crossed with the Earth's magnetic field.
And the most important question: Would it actually be visible?
Originally posted by DGFenrir
reply to post by Donny 4 million
The ignition would occur in about 2 minutes after the launch. That would put it high enough to be visible from several hundred kms away.
I came to the missile conclusion myself. Long before they admitted to testing a missile.
EISCAT beyond my thinking as I grasp not even the possibility of it being a part of the phenomena?
There should be a rule which prohibits such claims. If you've actually read my posts then I've considered EISCAT/whatever being a possibility but none of the supporters of those theories are able to explain how exactly the tech could produce such a phenomena.
EISCAT is often operational, why haven't we seen this before? Explain this! And how would EISCAT produce such a phenomena. If you can't explain it and still believe it then you are simply clinging to your fantasy world.
If I see my missile above the ocean then where else would it fall if it's fuel gets dumped and it loses thrust?
Third stage of the Bulava uses liquid fuel.
A failure doesn't neseccarily mean a uncontrolled missile. We don't know the details of the failure.
And if you'd actually do research on the topic and analyze photographs you'd see that the direction the spiral was seen is exactly where the missile was launched from.
And why the hell do you people have to start yapping about something that's completely off-topic every time your beliefs are questioned?
Oh noes! Teh skeptic asked me a question I can't answer. Bad skeptic! Go away!! We don't want to discuss the plausibility of our theories!
A few questions I asked that nobody has been able to answer:
Which way should the spiral rotate in case of right-hand circular polarization when the wave is moving away from the viewers? Clockwise or counter-clockwise?
And also if this theory is correct then shouldn't the spiral appear right above the transmitters? And be aligned with the magnetic field? In the photos and videos it's crossed with the Earth's magnetic field.
And the most important question: Would it actually be visible?
[edit on 29/12/2009 by DGFenrir]
[edit on 29/12/2009 by DGFenrir]