how come when people like myself ask questions PERTINENT to the thread, the people who should be answering instead go on with a silly discussion
regarding who said/she said/he said.
Its a simple reason and reaction you find a lot around here. Posters link just about anything and think thats reason enough to believe. You were
correct in saying the patent has nothing to do with visual phenomena so you will not find anyone to back that patent up with relevant data.
People just don't do the research or bother to think about basic science and often jump to conclusions based on beliefs, such is life.
As the OP himself admits he just "came" across that link browsing the net. Did he fully read and understand the patent?
Did he create any credible link between the patent and the spiral or anything visual?(umm no).
Did he do any actual research into CURRENT visual HF effects? (unlikely).
I have done a fair amount of research on the other hand on VISUAL HF heaters.
What I had initially thought was just an ionospheric effect which they call "HF pumped airglow" is changing.
Initially they could produce visual effects only with the help of very dense ions typically found very high up (past 150km). This was done by a steady
beam or pulse effect.
These study's are not carved in stone so they discover new stuff all the time. For instance Pulsing the HF at Haarp into an already present natural
aurora has noticeable lasting effects when they expected temporary effects. They are now trying to figure out why, such is science.
With Regards to EISCAT, it seems to so far only produce artificial airglow ( fuzzy aurora) visible only to sensitive equipment. They have so far, from
what I read, not been as successful as haarp or other HF sites because of location and the differences in Trosmo /Northern Norway's upper atmosphere.
It complicated to explain this fully ( its a lot of science based on earths angles, solar wind, ion density, magnetosphere, etc, etc,) but they are
trying to improve the calibration and techniques of EISCAT to get better visual results. I hate that to be my job it seems rather complex.
Now the interesting bit comes recently from the USAF with a hint that the Russians already know about this. Its the fact that you can now produce
visual effects at much lower levels using a much stronger power source. This is very interesting!
Also it has been shown recently that HF heaters CAN produce symmetrical circular "shapes". As you'd expect they are trying to figure this out too,
since it came as a nice surprise. There is an image of the HF "bullseye" in the documents I linked a few posts back. This is also very very
Note : this bulleye is NOT visible to the naked eye.
Read the PDF's I linked and you will learn a lot more about the real applications haarp/eiscat.
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