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HELLO? Codex Alimentarius? This December 31st people!

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posted on Dec, 27 2009 @ 03:09 AM
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aaahh, thanx to the OP for reminding me of this. I've heard about this a little while ago, but since it wasn't talked about I reckon I've forgotten it until now.

I have to say thou, if one more person says "grow your own food" I think I'm gonna scream! We're here in a Stage 4 drought, which means NO WATERING, so I guess I can always just live on seeds!!




posted on Dec, 27 2009 @ 03:10 AM
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Thanks.

Once again too many people base arguments around their beliefs and opinions instead of using credible hard evidence.

When are people going to take it on the chin that not everything in this world is a conspiracy.

You know what? I'm adding you as a friend. Merry Christmas and a happy new year!



posted on Dec, 27 2009 @ 03:23 AM
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Originally posted by Izarith
reply to post by Ha`la`tha
 



I have. Perhaps it's all the nutrients in your blood that cause you to forget things?


Yeah, maybe.....

What are we talking about again?


Why Many people come here, claiming what the guy you replied to, said.

Loads. And What it is we're talking about? You saying a lack of nutrients is addling the brains of those without said nutrients.. Forgotten already? Oh dear...

More apples for you! No tomatoes tho, you wouldn't want any MSG!!! Oo


Grandiose? You give the human race far to much credit. I thought I was making a claim of a simple task that has bin implemented quite easily over the years.


*has [BEEN] ! * No such term as has bin.

You are making large claims with nothing but your own interpretation of the facts on the topic. and a smothering of ineffective propaganda to satisfy your stance. Not once have you shown a valid claim - and no, prisonplanet is not valid especially when you poopooh the MSM. Jones is the polar opposite to the MSM, and just as bad.



And when someone asks for where you get your evidence, all and sundry come to the fore in order to throw out any old twaddle and tell the questioner to look for themselves - despite the fact that the actual documents in question have been used to denounce the claims you are making.


I would never tell a questioner to look for themselves. That's about as useless as telling a domesticated dog to find it's own food.


Oh I said "all and sundry" implying not you alone. Infact, re-read the thread. You will find the one person who asked questions was told to do his own research - I was quantifying my point with a fact, not implying you were a culprit. However, You still have not pointed to any valid and reputable source for the OP. Eh?



And although the actual document in question ha been used in an attempt to denounce the claims I am making, my memory stealing nutrients in my blood stream lead me to see through it's failed attempt.


What?? So you know it's all bananas, yet you still peel them...

Ugh... Why oh for gods sake why is this year so insipidly hollow...




It's either "Believe us, or you're brain dead!" from you. I find that almost insulting, considering you hold yourself above others and yet fail to adhere to your alleged high standards.


No, it's "whether you believe me or not, you're brain dead unless you are eating properly.".


Bollocks, you're being smug. No more, no less. And you are failing at it.

You attitude is consistently obnoxious. I wanted to leave a disclaimer in my original post, stating I hope you got the point of it, it seems you did not, perhaps I should have left it - then again, why bother.


High standards? Dude every one knows breakfast is the most important meal of the day. That's just standard, nothing high about it. You must be from Ethiopia.


Belittling people for their lack of nutrients and equating them with people with downs syndrome, merely because they disagree with you, iS an arrogant stance. You know well what you do, sir. FrOm a small hint to a large extreme, you led your insults.
Now, you include a new set. *sigh*



But then, if all it does is give you insight to paranoia and delusion, forgive me, but I'll stick to my hamburgers and beer. It seems to do little else for the mind, given the following....


Oh I see you are implying that my bad grammar is evidence that home grown food and a good diet is unnecessary for intelligent thought. And that a bad diet and good grammar is more preferable than realising that we live in one hell of a heartless world.

Well my bad spelling and grammar is due to the fact that I learned English, as bad as my English is, on my own at the age of 19 and we truly do live on one hell of a heartless planet so have another beer on me buddy.


Ahh, but someone elses misconstrued observation, without consideration by you, is his obvious stupid mind suffering from a lack of nutrients, which you so quite happily become belligerent about.

Hypocrite.

If they dont agree with you, it's a fault in their brain, due to a lack of your opinion.. But it they have a go at you, they are obviously heartless.

I see.

snippers the rest, its obnoxious for me to even bother.

Do what you want, lie as you wish. fabricate as you desire.

You will never be short of followers. I just wanted to point out the inherent irony in your posts. Someone so much better than the rest of us, who can't even stay coherent when heated.

Oh and if I make any typos, I'm alowed. I have no nutrients in my beer. Im a lesser soul, you see.



posted on Dec, 27 2009 @ 03:33 AM
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Originally posted by logicalview
Having worked in the field of analytical chemistry for 15 years, the Codex Alimentarius was practically equivalent to the bible to me.

Consider residual pesticides remaining in your fruit and veg when you purchase them from the supermarket. These 'residual levels' are governed by the codex as it sets the standard of acceptable levels when consumed.

To suggest that vitamins are to be classed as toxins and set at 'lower' levels is absurd. As has been mentioned already most vitamins, especially in fresh produce, are naturally occuring.

There is , as far as i have searched, no reference to the claims made in the OP.

Grammar!

[edit on 26/12/09 by logicalview]

Thank you for clarifying us.
Paranoia is a bad thing and we need to stay away from it.
Someone should ask a nutritionist because they should know everything about this.



posted on Dec, 27 2009 @ 03:35 AM
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The dreaded TOXIN VITAMIN C

Ban it immediately!!!!!!!!!!!



posted on Dec, 27 2009 @ 03:48 AM
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I'll hold my hand up and admit I don't really understand what the Codex is saying. I have seen different interpretations and suspect there is a spot of scaremongering going on.
But frankly I think it is about time someone fired a shot over the bows of the laughably called health food industry. Can you say SCAM?
Gullible people diagnosing themselves and parting with hard earned cash for MANUFACTURED stuff they probably don't need. Thinking that these manufactured pills are the panacea to everything. Fact is, if it has the power to affect your body's chemistry for the good, it also has the power to do bad. Fact is, a bit of regulation wouldn't come amiss.



posted on Dec, 27 2009 @ 04:05 AM
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Originally posted by Izarith
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i'm surprised you even bothered to defend yourself. i learned english myself as well. so i guess the nutrition from those home grown food of yours aren't giving you the advantage you think you are getting. your ego really have no bounds since you never forget to pat yourself on the back.


Your ego really have [has] no bounds.....

So true.


Oh and as a fellow self taught English as a second language person, remember to capitalize all your (I) and the first letter of a word at the beginning of a sentence.


Ahhh - Now it's a second language as a reason for your mistakes.

I think we are getting closer to a reason for having such a bitter attitude.

But, please do try and lay off the oh so mightily smart one antics, if you are even yourself, admittedly not perfect.

Your nutrients don't give you immunity.




posted on Dec, 27 2009 @ 04:10 AM
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no they cant. as stated before, most of the nutrients in the plants themselves are required for plants to grow. so you take those out.. and then what? you get the same thing without nutrients? they wouldn't even put stuff like this in sci fi films. even if it is possible to create something like this it would require that they have knowledge to know exactly what genes to modify. sure, they can manipulate nearly every gene of a sequenced DNA but there is no way to know even what the near term results may be completely. not to mention they are still using cross breeding mostly with a bit of modification using ebola. if they had the technology to engineer a plant the way you seem to suggest then they could have designed a new plant from the ground up. somehow i doubt that is even likely right now. of course if you want to say that there are some alien secret technology that allows this i wont argue with you but it will open up a whole new range of problems you have to deal with.






Yes, they can.

One of the best-known applications of genetic engineering is the creation of GMOs for food use (genetically modified foods); such foods resist insect pests, bacterial or fungal infection, resist herbicides to improve yield, have longer freshness than otherwise, or have superior nutritional value.


physiolgenomics.physiology.org...

Definitions of nutritional genomics range from the application of high-throughput genomic technologies to nutrition research (13, 34, 50) to the genetic enhancement of plants for higher nutritional quality (8)

So , they can alter plants to become nutritionally superior, by that standard and with crossbreeding of nutritionally inferior plants I'm sure it wouldn't be a problem to Franken Food.

NEXT



posted on Dec, 27 2009 @ 04:19 AM
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Why Many people come here, claiming what the guy you replied to, said.

Loads. And What it is we're talking about? You saying a lack of nutrients is addling the brains of those without said nutrients.. Forgotten already? Oh dear...

More apples for you! No tomatoes tho, you wouldn't want any MSG!!! Oo


Oh sorry, I thought we were talking about how the fact that I eat super yummy real food instead of beer attributes to me having Alzheimers.


My mind must be really gone.



*has [BEEN] ! * No such term as has bin.


I just made bin up! It means been, I can do that.....because....thats the power of real food.



You are making large claims with nothing but your own interpretation of the facts on the topic. and a smothering of ineffective propaganda to satisfy your stance. Not once have you shown a valid claim - and no, prisonplanet is not valid especially when you poopooh the MSM. Jones is the polar opposite to the MSM, and just as bad.


I'm making large claims with nothing but my own interpretation of the facts on the topic......

Well duh, that's what the human mind is supposed to do, it's called thinking. Put the cheese burger down buddy.


Prison Planet? please come on. All I need to do is buy a scanner so I can post the ingredient label of 99% of all the food in any supermarket as proof. And I only need to do that because you guys are to lazy to even try to turn the packet of crap your inhaling and read it yourselves.

There is no conspiracy at all! The food you eat is crap I would not feed my dog if it was not so cheep. We are poisoning ourselves with crazy weird chemicals, some of them never leave the body once ingested.

All I'm saying is that it's going to get worse. That is not a big claim.


Oh I said "all and sundry" implying not you alone. Infact, re-read the thread. You will find the one person who asked questions was told to do his own research - I was quantifying my point with a fact, not implying you were a culprit. However, You still have not pointed to any valid and reputable source for the OP. Eh?


Nor will I, I was not put on this Earth to teach you anything. You started talking to me remember?

If you want to keep eating crap, you have my total blessing. God Speed to you brave man.



What?? So you know it's all bananas, yet you still peel them...

Ugh... Why oh for gods sake why is this year so insipidly hollow...


Perhaps I framed my statement wrong. I meant to say that the attempt to use the document itself to denounce my claims fail in my eyes.

Are you drunk? just wondering......your spelling is not as perfect as the last time you directed a post my way.


Bollocks, you're being smug. No more, no less. And you are failing at it.


You are drunk aren't you lol. People from England always start yelling "Bollocks!!" when they are drunk.



You attitude is consistently obnoxious. I wanted to leave a disclaimer in my original post, stating I hope you got the point of it, it seems you did not, perhaps I should have left it - then again, why bother.


Look drunk person, I have no idea what you are talking about, maybe if I was drunk too I would. But I'm not, sorry about that.



Belittling people for their lack of nutrients and equating them with people with downs syndrome, merely because they disagree with you, iS an arrogant stance. You know well what you do, sir. FrOm a small hint to a large extreme, you led your insults. Now, you include a new set. *sigh*


I was using Down syndrome as a metaphor for our current predicament. Meaning we do not have down syndrome but lack fundamental nutrients to think properly.

Yes i am being smug but it's to get my point across to people who are usually smug in their denial.

By the way, why have you stopped correcting my spelling all of a sudden? I really need all the help I can get.


Ahh, but someone elses misconstrued observation, without consideration by you, is his obvious stupid mind suffering from a lack of nutrients, which you so quite happily become belligerent about.


Exactly!!


Hypocrite.


I disagree. It's being an A-Hole.


If they dont agree with you, it's a fault in their brain, due to a lack of your opinion.. But it they have a go at you, they are obviously heartless.


No, the world is heartless, the world! We live in a world that is really not what they told you as a child. It's a vicious world.

I'm not talking about you at all, I'm talking about the WHO they do not have your best interests in mind because this is a heartless world.

overlooking this is the only fault in anyone's brain. Goodness comes from people like you and me not an entity like the WHO, IMF or any such thing.


You will never be short of followers. I just wanted to point out the inherent irony in your posts. Someone so much better than the rest of us, who can't even stay coherent when heated.


Anyone who fallows me is an ideot! I speak my mind, I dig deep into the human mind and expose our true nature. Some people don't like that and take offense instead of Getting their parents out of the home they stuffed them in.


Oh and if I make any typos, I'm alowed. I have no nutrients in my beer. Im a lesser soul, you see.


You are what you believe you are, I am exaggerating with my remarks about the food thing. but I would rather look like an ass than to say any good thing about the WHO or the IMF. These entities are dangerous and will hurt people. That is not a joke.



posted on Dec, 27 2009 @ 04:28 AM
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I think, if anything, this will begin to wake people up so that they start educating themselves on what they eat and where it comes from.
Let's be honest, the US is full of obese, lazy, tv-dinner-eating people who'd rather be told what to eat (and often ignore that part too) than to do some simple research and learn for themselves.
As a nutrition major (and strict vegetarian of 13+ years) most of what I learned wasn't even from school, but rather independent research and trial and error.
Wake up people and take responsibility.



posted on Dec, 27 2009 @ 04:31 AM
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Ahhh - Now it's a second language as a reason for your mistakes.


What reason would you like me to use. I'm stupid?

Fine I'm stupid, happy.



I think we are getting closer to a reason for having such a bitter attitude.


Dude thread my posts I live in Mexico, people down here are starving and the only food they are selling is crap. My chickens became sterile after I fed them some bad feed. The government down here is making laws that will make having livestock to hard to do.

This is serious stuff, I don't have the luxury of asking for proof to be shown to me I'm neck deep in the proof and it's not pretty.

GET A LIFE.


But, please do try and lay off the oh so mightily smart one antics, if you are even yourself, admittedly not perfect.


It's the only thing that get through to you pretentious skeptics. A Mexican implying that he can think better because he eats real cheese just might turn the tides and get you guys demanding real food.


Your nutrients don't give you immunity.


Only cowards need immunity.


[edit on 27-12-2009 by Izarith]



posted on Dec, 27 2009 @ 04:39 AM
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yes i know they do genetic modification. as i said they use the ebola virus to modify the genes of the plants. yes they cross breed to modify them to be more resistant and more nutritious. but as i have said, you cannot completely remove or remove the majority of the nutrients that the plants themselves need to use themselves. the second you do that you wont have healthy enough plants for a full harvest. what you will end up with is crop failure instead. so no, going backward is not as simple as going forwards. if they successfully remove half the nutrients in your vegetables then all you will need to do is eat twice the servings and get the same thing. i seriously doubt that the risk of losing entire crops due to inferiority will be worth it. it would be easier for them to just not plant anything at all and save themselves the trouble. therefore i still don't think they have the technology to do exactly what you think they could be planning to do.



posted on Dec, 27 2009 @ 04:41 AM
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www.consumerhealth.org...

www.albionmonitor.com...

Here are a couple of links that I would consider to be reputable and informative. I will keep working this and digging deeper for better materials. Time for bed.



posted on Dec, 27 2009 @ 04:42 AM
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I personally don't care.

Why?

Because everybody dies. You can try and be as healthy as you want, you are still going to die one day.

In the meantime, I have grown pretty tired/jaded towards chicken littles who equate every little thing as being the end of the world. The world will end for me the day I die. It doesn't take a big event or anything like that to make it happen either.

Personally I think the entire "they wanna kill us" is downright ignorant. Why would such people want to "kill" what is ultimately the worlds greatest resource - humans. It's like a cattle rancher waking up and saying - I think I'm going to kill 2/3rd of the herd.

All I really see is the injection of fear in order to gain a reaction. Introduce the actions in order to bring about the wanted reactions. Such is how manipulation and control works.



posted on Dec, 27 2009 @ 04:43 AM
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Nutrition major?

Than surly you know that being a vegetarian is one of the most unhealthiest things do do in your life?

If you don't get vitamin K subsidies, usually in the form of an injection you will have mood swings like a schizophrenic woman going through menopause.

Eat real meat, butter and fat along with vegetables. This will help brake down the omega 3 in fish so it can be digested into your body.


Also watch out for chronic bad breath.



posted on Dec, 27 2009 @ 04:45 AM
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You yourself stated that they crossbreed. By crossbreeding with a plant that is nutritionally inferior or by selectively eliminating plants with high nutritional value, I'm sure it can be done. Besides, plants get most of the what they need to grow from photosynthesis and nutrient uptake.



posted on Dec, 27 2009 @ 04:53 AM
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Yeah I hear ya buddy!

Screw our children, @#$% em, I never liked them anyway!!

Lets continue to watch our 7 year old daughters develop Angelina Jolie breasts, lets see the bloated faces on our sons grow ever fat and formless!

Why the hell not? I'm gonna die any way right?




posted on Dec, 27 2009 @ 04:56 AM
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dubble post it seems

[edit on 27/12/2009 by Ha`la`tha]



posted on Dec, 27 2009 @ 05:07 AM
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Originally posted by Izarith
Oh sorry, I thought we were talking about how the fact that I eat super yummy real food instead of beer attributes to me having Alzheimers.


My mind must be really gone.




Going mad are we? Cannot handle it?

I Don't agree with you, is that OK with you? You've gone from being an arrogant troll to now feigning being hurt.

Give me a break.

Are you OK now?



*has [BEEN] ! * No such term as has bin.


I just made bin up! It means been, I can do that.....because....thats the power of real food.


No you can't. You don't get to make the English language up as you go along.

*ugh*



You are making large claims with nothing but your own interpretation of the facts on the topic. and a smothering of ineffective propaganda to satisfy your stance. Not once have you shown a valid claim - and no, prisonplanet is not valid especially when you poopooh the MSM. Jones is the polar opposite to the MSM, and just as bad.


I'm making large claims with nothing but my own interpretation of the facts on the topic......

Well duh, that's what the human mind is supposed to do, it's called thinking. Put the cheese burger down buddy.


Well why have you not got those solar shelters ready for when what I believe is to be the sun people shooting bombs at us? Oh wait, that's pure garbage.. HEY BUT I BELIEVE IT!!!

Ugh - This is why I hate 99% of the conspiracy theories around here, there just one mans bollocks.. no substance. They drown out any real discussion.



Prison Planet? please come on. All I need to do is buy a scanner so I can post the ingredient label of 99% of all the food in any supermarket as proof. And I only need to do that because you guys are to lazy to even try to turn the packet of crap your inhaling and read it yourselves.

There is no conspiracy at all! The food you eat is crap I would not feed my dog if it was not so cheep. We are poisoning ourselves with crazy weird chemicals, some of them never leave the body once ingested.

All I'm saying is that it's going to get worse. That is not a big claim.


I have no idea how you can say all that above and still expect to be taken coherently. Oo - And that is just honest.



Oh I said "all and sundry" implying not you alone. Infact, re-read the thread. You will find the one person who asked questions was told to do his own research - I was quantifying my point with a fact, not implying you were a culprit. However, You still have not pointed to any valid and reputable source for the OP. Eh?


Nor will I, I was not put on this Earth to teach you anything. You started talking to me remember?


IT IS A PUBLIC FORUM. Odd that!

If you don't wan't people to respond to your outlandish claims, then shush. Go play in the sandbox with the other tots.

far out...


If you want to keep eating crap, you have my total blessing. God Speed to you brave man.


You have done little to prove anything. Good job.




What?? So you know it's all bananas, yet you still peel them...

Ugh... Why oh for gods sake why is this year so insipidly hollow...


Perhaps I framed my statement wrong. I meant to say that the attempt to use the document itself to denounce my claims fail in my eyes.

Are you drunk? just wondering......your spelling is not as perfect as the last time you directed a post my way.


Ahh I see - Slander is the best means to sully those you cannot argue with..

You have lost all merit with me, stoop low elsewhere miscreant

... end reply to pure diatribe.



posted on Dec, 27 2009 @ 05:09 AM
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Blah Blah Blah, waffle on.

I deny you...



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