reply to post by ADVISOR
Again, not wanting to derail the thread, but I feel your post needs a reply..
The Ba'ath party weren't Islamic extremists, they were Arab nationalists. Yes, they may have been islamic, but that's like saying Stalin was an
Othodox extremist... You do know Baathists are still in power in Syria and they are as active as anyone in keeping a lid on the AQ crew.
Yes, Saddam may have been extreme himself, but he was a secular leader and paid lip service to Islam. Again, nothing to do with the religion.
It's a bit of stretch ADVISOR, come on....
Prior to the invasion, any "Islamic extremists" (as we know the term now) were kept firmly under heel as they are in most other states. Yes, some
may have been existing in remote regions and border area's, plus don't forget that the Iraqi security apparatus was extremely eroded after 1991,
especially in the North and South were all of the Islamic training camps were found post-2003.
I suggest you
update your organic data banks....
Iraq was not a sponsor, supporter or harbourer of any terrorists through design, this we know for certain from the ongoing Iraq Enquiry here in the
UK. Not sure how much info you're getting your side of the pond though.
Using that logic, one can say the UK is a harbourer just because some actually hail from the here. That is where I drew my comments from in the first
I wasn't claiming either that the US is the root of Islamic extremism, I think you
know better than that to claim otherwise!
However, it has to be ackowledged that US/Western foreign policy plays a BIG
part in creating willing recruits for these organisations. To deny
this is to ignore the causes of terrorism and will only serve to exacerbate the problem.
I often cite, as an analogy of the ME problems, the troubles in NI.
The only way that was resolved was the UK Government acknowledging there were legitimate grievances on the part of the Republicans, namely their
desire not to be governed from London, even if some of them went to extreme methods.
Now Irish extremism has been virtually eradicated (save for a few small splinter groups) and the province governs itself (for the most part).
Peace was only brought to the province through dialogue and negotiation, not invasions and bombing.
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