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Originally posted by TiM3LoRd
reply to post by Pappa_Bear
what your saying is that same as "yeah we know its wrong and yeah there are no laws that state we have to pay tax, but i cant be bothered with the hassle of dealing with the man when he busts down my door"
So i wonder where you will draw the line? Your already paying money to a government funded mafia.
How much more crap are you going to take before you say NO?
The reason we are in this mess is beacuse of complacency. I seriously doubt we are going to fix the problem with more of the same.
Originally posted by TiM3LoRd
reply to post by dereks
here are some questions you should ask your friendly neighborhood IRS agent.
1. Where is the law requiring Americans to pay income tax?
It comes into your driveway in several unmarked cars with many booted feet
2. Their regulatory authority and delegated authority to address him
As soon as you go "What" you are now a criminal for resisting arrest, Authority now granted to the Law
3. The law which the contract with both signatures on it.
I think there are more than 2 signatures, we have more than 2 theives(congressmen) in office
4. The law which made the IRS part of the Constitution
The Constitution does not condone theivery by the Government, so please do not confuse the Constitution with the IRS; mistake made by many
5. The agent’s oath of office, and the contract with both signatures on it.
What contract, I suppose you mean the contract with your name on it, You Breathe US air, live on US soil, that is all the contract that the IRS needs to steal your hardearned money in order for the Government to repay the interest on the loans the Fed made to the Government
please provide me with those details if you think they exist
Also to note, since the IRS and income tax has been not only an accepted law, but enforced compliance as well for several decades, I think you will find that to live without paying income tax is like living in FantasyLand, not going to happen without major consequences.
p.s. Key to note is I use the words "accepted law", which in no way denotes that there is infact any constitutional rights, or Public Laws that are legaly binding.
[edit on 26-12-2009 by TiM3LoRd]
Originally posted by zombiemann
I for one would love to see a case where someone actually got out of paying income tax. One very important thing in our judicial system is a little thing called precedence. By paying taxes even once in your life, you are setting a precedent to continue to pay them regardless of legality.
Edit to add www.usconstitution.net...
Yea, its right there in the constitution of this once great nation. The government CAN make us pay taxes.
[edit on 26-12-2009 by zombiemann]
Aaron Russo's final film is his warning to the world about the evolution of the United States of America into a fascist state. Starting with his discovery of the unlawfulness of the income tax, Aaron covers the elite class crimes against the common culture and warns against the potential slave state future.
Originally posted by kozmo
I just love the nay-sayers - STUPID sheep! That is why they are in the predicament that they are in. They have faith in an authority over them that doesn't even exist! I've read her book - about a dozen times! I've researched just about every claim she makes. Some interpretations are a bit questionable but easily argued and even then, it doesn't change the general gist of it all. The secret is to become a Freeman On The Land and gain control of your corporate entity. So many of these clowns that want to deny, deny, deny do not even recognize that they are slave to the Uniform Commercial Code by their own doing and that have freely abrogated all of their Common Law rights.
Any doubts? Just look into why some courts are called Courts of Common Pleas and not Courts of Common Law! While you're at it, look into why you cannot claim "innocence" in court, only "guilty" or "not guilty".
In my opinion, some people just deserve the prisons that they live in!