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Originally posted by TruthStrgnrThanFiction
Either you believe in Jesus or you dont. Theres no inbetween.
Originally posted by SOTERION 5
I have 1 question, what is the ephraim cult?
Originally posted by Jakko
KKK, mormons, the ephraim cult, Jehova witnesses, all examples of people that are inspired by the devil to use the bible for their very unchristian religion and way of life, without them being aware of it.
Originally posted by TenPin
Whether you are right or not, its not wise to say this sort of thing when people who are part of the groups you have mentioned may read it. All you are doing is insulting them and making them resent any of your attempts to "convert" them to your way of thinking.
Originally posted by Jonna
However, if you do not do what we tell you and believe what we want you too, then you will be punished in a firey hell. The stick and the carrot.
Originally posted by jakko
1. Do not damage yourself.
2. Do not damage others.
3. Do not damage God.
Originally posted by StrangeLands
Exactly. I found an interesting page for those who've been defending the "essential goodness" of the bible - check it out here.
Exodus 20:4 “Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water below.”
Old Testament punishment- Deuteronomy 27: 1 5 “Cursed be the man that maketh any graven or molten image.”
That’s right kids don’t EVER draw, sculpt or paint or else god will curse you. Wanna be an artist, a photographer, take a picture of yourself or family? TOO BAD, God says no! You better drop out of art class before he smites you with boils.
You shall not make for yourself a carved image or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on earth under it, or that is in the water below. You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I, the Lord, your God, am a jealous God, who visits the iniquity of fathers on children, even to the third and fourth generations of those who hate me, but who extends faithful love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.
‘Cursed is the one who makes a carved or metal image—something abhorrent to the Lord, the work of the craftsman—and sets it in a secret place.’
Arguments for contradictions in the Bible are about as impressive as a 2 man wave at the Super Bowl.
Originally posted by StrangeLands
And I thought you showed such promise, TenPin.
At the risk of repeating my previous post, why is your defense against criticism of the bible the same old tired cry of "context"?
If the bible is only legitimate as an entire unit, how can you dismiss the Old Testament. Are you suggesting that the Old Testament is not the true word of God? Because if it isn't, then how do you know that the New Testament is? Why do you think that you are the authority on what is the acceptable word of God?
It's unrealistic to expect you to find a way of explaining every contradiction in the bible - that would strain anyone's creativity.
And here's something else to consider - if the bible is the true word of God, and if it was always intended to be the cornerstone of a mighty religion, then why did God allow it to be stuffed full of inaccuracies, contradictions and lies? Or, if it is merely the creation of fallible human beings, why should it be revered as the word of God any more than the Lord of the Rings or the TV Guide?
Oh, wait, I know this one - it was Satan, right? Satan stepped in and corrupted the bible, corrupted my understanding? God good, Christians great, atheists bad, Satan evil - therefore anyone who disagrees with you or can disprove your word is an agent of the ultimate evil.