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Originally posted by Quickfix
Having a war on terror is like having a war on war. Completely and utterly pointless.
Originally posted by TheCoffinman
Detroit terror attack: Yemen is the true home of Al-Qaeda
www.telegraph.co.uk...
so if al-qaeda is in yemen, then there is no reason to be in afghanistan...
Originally posted by Zeus2573
reply to post by GradyPhilpott
Never a President named George Bush Sr? Your kidding right? Is it because I left out the H.W.?
You know the George Dubya's daddy, George Bush Sr. the 41st President of the United States. Do I need to send you a photo?
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
reply to post by Zeus2573
First of all, there has never been a US president named George Bush, Sr.
Second of all, you are omitting the reason the US and the international community went to war in the Gulf in the early Nineties.
Iraq invaded Kuwait and wreaked major havoc on that nation.
To you, that might be a minor little detail, but that fact puts the matter into the proper perspective.
There may be truth to the assessment that the current war against the US and the free world by Islamic terrorists, but to gloss over the facts of the Gulf War indicates a lack of respect for the facts or just a basic lack of knowledge.
Originally posted by Aeons
reply to post by Quickfix
The US has petroleum.
You guys and your rampant "its all about the oil!" schtick. You need to broaden your perspective quite a lot.
"The Oil!" is only an example of the actual underlying issue, which is trade routes and trade in general.
And if you are so fair minded that you'd like to have most of the trade routes of the planet being under the control of some Imams, Mullahs, Princes, and a Caliphate, you might be fair minded to the point of personal extinction.
You can be accepting as you like of cultural difference. That acceptance is a cultural value, and one that will disappear if you are so accepting of monopolization and barbarism as a cultural value that you are willing to trade away every possibility of protecting your own values.
Originally posted by Night Watchman
Originally posted by EvolvedMinistry
Last question:
If you don't know this one, then you're more hopeless than I could have EVER imagined. Look at the background history between Afghanistan and Iraq. Study it...the only time those two countries even somewhat got along was during the IRANIAN REVOLUTION IN THE LATE 70'S. This is the very reason that I told you that unless you had a master's degree in middle eastern studies that you should BACK OFF.
[edit on 28-12-2009 by EvolvedMinistry]
I won't even bother with your nonsensical MSM and Colin Powell answers because it was so juvenile. Dimwits like you throw around the term "Mainstream Media," so often that I find t entertaining to ask you to identify them. So I guess your third grade level answer would suggest that you cal any media outlet owned by a "corporation," to be part of the main stream media. I could have gotten a more detailed answer from my 10 year old daughter but that's not exactly a surprise now, is it?
Your Colin Powell explanation was even funnier. Apparently only the MSM reported the remarks he made before the UNITED NATIONS and thus they are responsible for spreading misinformation.
Quite a leap there...even for you.
Now you claimed that Iraq and Afghanistan have been mortal enemies since the beginning of time. When asked to explain you offered that they only ever got along during the Iran Revolution. Even a simpleton would realize there is a significant difference between "mortal enemies," and not getting along. At least I think a simpleton would understand the difference.
Maybe we should ask a simpleton...
Nah...too easy.
Have a nice day and keep making excuses for murdering scum.
Originally posted by MarkLuitzen
reply to post by Kailassa
My grandparrents fought against and hide jews.. Thats why I am so against same thing happening again which people aren't willing to see ..
I see those terrorist not as resistance but as enemy soldiers fighting for the radicle facist ideology called Islam .. The Netherlands is over run and rights are currently being given away to please Islam.. We have Jewish Christian and humanist
That isn't the way of the Dutch resistance fighers of WW2
Originally posted by TheCoffinman
news.google.com...
President Obama warned Monday that the United States would respond aggressively to terrorism such as last week's botched attempt to blow up a U.S. airliner.
Obama vows to 'keep up the pressure' on terrorists
oh yes, lets open a "third" front in the war on terror and agrresively attack them, afterall my nobel PEACE prize was a complete and total sham!!
Originally posted by JJay55
Originally posted by Venetian
Has the topic of Manchurian candidate came up regarding this guy? According to BBC World News, university staff and colleagues regard the suspect as "quiet, obedient" and a "perfect example of a good student" and so forth. Also, Nigeria claims "We do not think that there is any organised Islamic group in Nigeria that is inclined to such a criminal and violent act. We condemn such an extreme viewpoint and action."
I haven't read the previous 30 pages of posts, so apologies if this has been discussed already.
There are plenty of volunteers who sign up for the Islamic cause. Thousands in camps.
BBC has always been apologists.
The State Department looks like a bunch of idiots:
www.cbsnews.com...
[edit on 28-12-2009 by JJay55]
Originally posted by Walkswithfish
reply to post by GradyPhilpott
Did you hear his Nobel Prize acceptance speech?
It was very pro war.
They are already backing off of the Guantanamo closure, especially in regard to Yemeni detainees. Check the current developments yourself.
The times they are a changing.
Changing back!
Don't underestimate this President and his ability to do anything to divert attention away from his domestic agendas.
If one failed attack can gain this much attention, imagine what will happen when a successful attack happens and Al Qaeda conveniently claims responsibility... Or even better, if a terrorist plot and attack can be linked to Iran and Al Qaeda... whoa, a double whammy!
Yeah, something stinks alright, and it ain't the winds of change.
[edit on 28-12-2009 by Walkswithfish]
Originally posted by Night Watchman
Originally posted by Walkswithfish
What if I'm right?
What if you and others who continually trivialize the terrorist threat are wrong?
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
reply to post by JJay55
How would blowing up a plane on an approach to Detroit affect a prison 100 miles away?
Is the prison on the approach path?
One news report I heard today said that the device on some planes that tells passengers how far they are away from their destination had been disabled, so there may be some validity to your theory, but still that would seem to be a very long shot.
Certainly, blowing up a full airliner on an approach to a large city would produce very many casualties, but affecting a given facility would require much better tracking than a passenger could effect, it seems to me.
[edit on 2009/12/28 by GradyPhilpott]