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posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 10:37 PM
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Originally posted by IX-777

I have explained these things in other forums. Regarding me being member of various secret societies and orders, there is nothing fancy or magical or special about that. Indeed there are many members here on this forum whom are Freemasons, Rosicrucians, Thelemites, and so on.


My gut instinct tells me that you are lying about your relationship with such secret societies. I know people that are Freemasons, and they would have cut your tongue out long ago for not only advertising the fact that you are a member of a secret society, but for claiming to be from the Pleiades.

Do you even know what a secret society is? (I know its a basic question, but so ironic). The Irish Republican Army was a secret society (and many branches of it still are), if you were to go onto an internet forum claiming to be a member, you would have either got kidnapped and your two knee-caps blown off, or shot in the head.

Do you even know that the Pleiades is in the constellation of Taurus? Do you know why I am asking? Golden Calves and burning bushes ring the bell?
The Age of Taurus was the 4th Age which dawned in 4468 BCE the final Age of the trinity of the Autumn Equinox. So I suppose you participate in cross-quarter-day? Or are you just a son of a Funeral Director that has ancestry links to Celtic Mythology? I know a lot of secret societies perform a lot of astrological rituals of the crossing of the Pleiades, but seriously...not only do you look 17 years old (no offense), but your story doesn't add up. If you are, however, apart of any secret society, even the small branches like the Order of the Buffalo, or the Harponian Society (outer circles); you could never prove otherwise.


Ive read some of your posts and yes you seem intelligent in some subjects, so why the falsities?


Originally posted by IX-777
People do tend to believe secret orders and societies are something so special that it takes a very hard way to get in, but in reality it is rather simple. It is the ascension within the order to the higher secrets that is the harder part where fewer are chosen, there are usually an Outer Order and an Inner Order.


Oh really? So, people that I know personally who tried to join were frowned upon at induction "dining" meetings (workshops), never got a phone call back, got ignored from several lodges; they are all wrong then? Do you know what the requirement to be a member of any secret society is? I am not talking about Rosicrucians (AMORC) or any other order that simply asks for an annual fee, Im talking about others, with proper occult information.

Maybe you didn't know but anyone claiming to be a Pleiadian is exactly that, a "dove". The general public will think "how lovely a dove", I ask them to research the origins of the dove within the occult and see what they come up with.

You sure you are not apart of the "Outer Order"?


I am not personally attacking you, it may look like it, but it is not. I just cant stand liars. On the other hand, what you said regarding the subliminal messages within this TV show is a good opinion. I can tell you are intelligent, but again...why is it that I sense lies amongst such intellect? Do you have a monkey on your back?

EDIT: For the record I had the same hairstyle and beard as yourself (including the color), and I am Celtic 100% and not affiliated with any secret society. If I plastered my face on a conspiracy website and said I was a member of a secret society, it would not be long until the so called master would report me and expel me from the society and lodge and if I were lucky, not get hung from a bridge with bricks in my jacket or my tongue cut off.

If you were apart of a secret society, or well read on the subject matter, please explain to me why Freemasons write their rituals using shortened versions of every word until it is made up of three letters. I know the answer, do you?


[edit on 24/12/2009 by the_denv]




posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 10:42 PM
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I have no reason to lie about my background or memberships and involvement with both secret societies and orders and governmental institutions. Why would I? It would be easy to discover if I lied, and ultimately I can provide the proof and evidence for my memberships if I care about that as I do have the documents and membership cards and so on.

When it comes to requirements it varies, some will need "sponsors" that go good for you to let you in, and others will check your history and police records (and other records) etc as well.

Regarding risking myself, I am not operating in a way that I will quickly be "called up" about within any of these orders.

I take my own precautions. And I have also been allowed to spread certain material from the highest holds of various of these groups I am member of so I have no worries. You think all masons and etc are bad guys out to rule the world? If so you are dearly wrong.

-Maggador

[edit on 24-12-2009 by IX-777]



posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 10:46 PM
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Originally posted by network dude
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I hate to be this blunt, but you are the biggest fraud I have seen on ATS to date. You claim to be part of "mystery schools" and "secret societies" and you have no clue who or what the Illuminati was. You use the term as if it was a synonym for evil. Whence you head is removed from the place it came, please do a bit of research on who they were. Your video was a bit of artistic claymation. There was a plot and watched with an open mind, it was cool to see. But Illuminati? sad existence you have.



LOL

Love that comment


I reme,ber seeing this youtube video a few years back. It certainly was interesting, and I doubt that kids would understand the concepts behind the issue arising in the video, which is probably just as well.

Although the floating disembodied head is supposed to be Satan, there is no reference to the Illuminati whatsover, so the OP is clutching at straws as usual. I wonder if the OP blames his missing socks on the Illuminati too



posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 10:56 PM
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Perhaps you are the one not understanding what the Illuminati is?

It is simply a secret society, an order, dating back to ancient times even though it was officially founded as its own order in 1776 and consisted of people from various other groups/orders/societies including jesuits and the vatican with an agenda that survived and is still going on today. They never "died out" as historians believe is most plausible, nor did the Templars.

-Maggador



posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 10:56 PM
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Originally posted by IX-777
I take my own precautions.


Like freely posting on the worlds most popular conspiracy website


You do know that knowingly posting wrong or misleading information is against the T and C's right?



posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 11:01 PM
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Originally posted by IX-777
Perhaps you are the one not understanding what the Illuminati is?


-Maggador


If that is in response to me, I know exactly what the illimunati is, however I do not believe you are involved in it or privy to any secrets involved with it or any other secret societies in the world.



posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 11:13 PM
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OZWeather;

Yes, I am not spreading any false information so I am well within the "T&C".

Also, did you ever hear that being public is a better protection than being anonymous?

And, apparently you do not know what the Illuminati is as well as you think you do. That is just my humble opinion and I am sure you will disagree.

Blessings,
-Maggador

[edit on 24-12-2009 by IX-777]



posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 11:15 PM
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Originally posted by IX-777
I have no reason to lie about my background or memberships and involvement with both secret societies and orders and governmental institutions. Why would I? It would be easy to discover if I lied, and ultimately I can provide the proof and evidence for my memberships if I care about that as I do have the documents and membership cards and so on.


Yes you do, its called an "Internet Ego"; I have seen plenty of them within the 11-12 years online. So you are now saying you are also were apart of a government institution? Sorry, but you look like your 17 years old mate, several orders, societies, and now government - at 17?

Yes as you said yourself Quote: "It would be easy to discover if I lied", and I discovered it.

You state you can provide me with membership cards? A membership card for a secret society? Yup, 100% Outer Circle (if you are telling the truth). Hell, if I wanted to, I could provide you with such documentation. All I got to do is pay $125 to become a "Friend of Nut" within the Rosicrucian Order. It really is, that easy. When you join, you will be force fed crap after crap, then you will probably end up where you started, at the library or on the internet searching for the truth. This is where you are at now, searching. Why lie? Prove it like you said (just for fun).


Originally posted by IX-777
When it comes to requirements it varies, some will need "sponsors" that go good for you to let you in, and others will check your history and police records (and other records) etc as well.


Sponsors, yes; criminal record scrutiny, yes. This is common knowledge.


Originally posted by IX-777
Regarding risking myself, I am not operating in a way that I will quickly be "called up" about within any of these orders.


Your on a conspiracy website stating your a member of a secret society, and most of these threads you created contain your opinion on certain matters that would make your so-called secret society or "governmental institute" you said you were apart of, questionable. A "red flag" so to speak. Basically, ruining any credibility they have as a gentlemen club



Originally posted by IX-777
I take my own precautions. And I have also been allowed to spread certain material from the highest holds of various of these groups I am member of so I have no worries. You think all masons and etc are bad guys out to rule the world? If so you are dearly wrong.


Oh, so brilliant and enlightened one, prove this certain material you were "allowed" to spread from the highest holds. (
Highest Holds).

Actually, your last sentence confirms that you either did not read nor comprehend my previous post. I said I know Freemasons, the outer circle are the clueless ones, the harmless ones, the actions they make are what public media whats to show to the masses. The Outer Circle are the veil, the Inner Circle are the wolves, the lunatics.

Outer Circle societies, they look and are as innocent as a dove.
Pleiadian.

Im sorry, but as I said I can't stand liars. Many people on ATS and any forum will believe partly of what you say. I hear your claims, and I have to expose them. It is my basic human instinct.



posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 11:25 PM
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Originally posted by IX-777
Perhaps you are the one not understanding what the Illuminati is?

It is simply a secret society, an order, dating back to ancient times even though it was officially founded as its own order in 1776 and consisted of people from various other groups/orders/societies including jesuits and the vatican with an agenda that survived and is still going on today. They never "died out" as historians believe is most plausible, nor did the Templars.

-Maggador


You got caught out in a lie (another one).
Anyone who is involved in any of these societies and/or a great researcher will never state that the illuminati was established in 1776.


It's due to their egotistic mindset for power.

It was actually 1774 when Adam Weishaupt created the Order of the illuminati, the belief system, the agenda etc.



posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 11:28 PM
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why does the grandmaster of a secret order have his PICTURE in his avatar??? I think its because you are full of it and want attention. bad little boy! no toys this year



posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 11:30 PM
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Originally posted by IX-777
OZWeather;

Yes, I am not spreading any false information so I am well within the "T&C".

Also, did you ever hear that being public is a better protection than being anonymous?

And, apparently you do not know what the Illuminati is as well as you think you do. That is just my humble opinion and I am sure you will disagree.

Blessings,
-Maggador

[edit on 24-12-2009 by IX-777]


You are, your spreading disinformation, not counterintelligence, not misinformation, but disinformation. Being public is good and bad, I though you would have known about that since you are "enlightened", your master not tell you any stories about a certain Italian who loves to "hang around" off bridges with a pocket full of bricks?

Besides, any information that you have provided is common knowledge. Another thing, you totally avoided my question regarding the 3 letter words written for every Masonic ritual. As I stated, I already know the answer, do you?

Apparently, neither do you, know what the illuminati is.

Yes, I am also sure that he will disagree, most people usually do disagree when they hear crap like that.

EDIT:

Originally posted by Totalstranger
why does the grandmaster of a secret order have his PICTURE in his avatar??? I think its because you are full of it and want attention. bad little boy! no toys this year


I think you meant to say he is full of it. I do however agree with you Totalstranger.

[edit on 24/12/2009 by the_denv]



posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 11:36 PM
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I saw this on the Disney channel when I was a kid. It's a clip from a claymation film, I think it was titled "The Adventures of Mark Twain" or something to that effect. There was also a whole Adam and Eve part the was very interesting. I loved that movie.



posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 11:38 PM
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Originally posted by IX-777
Also, did you ever hear that being public is a better protection than being anonymous?


No, I must have been alseep when my parents drummed the concept of common sense into me.


Thats is an absolutely ridiculous statement by the way



And, apparently you do not know what the Illuminati is as well as you think you do. That is just my humble opinion and I am sure you will disagree.


Yes I do, mainly because ist quite apparent that you are not part of any of these secret societies. You place your face in your avatar and you claim you are privy to all therse secrets, yet cant come up with a plausible theory or any slight piece of evidence to back yourself.

So frankly, yes, you are full of crap



posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 11:42 PM
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I am too busy with research and travels to spend my time wasting it for some "internet ego". I travel around the world and live for specific amount of time in various countries, it is not for no reason I know 8 different languages. I speak 3 different languages on a daily basis.

I am twice the age you suggest but thanks for the compliment, never bad to look young


You discovered nothing so far. Only your beliefs.

I already mentioned the Outer and Inner circles myself so now you are just repeating me. I never said I would show a membership card of any inner circle, nor any outer circle for that matter, and various orders and societies have different structures, some operate with membership cards, some don't.

I also referred to documents, which have nothing to do with membership cards but still would prove my membership within various orders.

Of course if I posted such, you would likely say it would be easy to fake such in either case. And I do not see any reason to post such and compromise myself in either case, enough information about me is around here already.

Regarding governmental institutions - I am not the only one whom have gone out speaking about such things, check up the good old "Disclosure Project" for some - as far I know they are still doing fine.

Who will believe someone telling such things in either case? Of course you will be labeled as somewhat unstable - in the best case. And, yes I have


Regardless, I have friends that are working in the governments, in places such as NSA, and CIA, FBI, the Air Force etc, which have given me more insights than I could have gotten without their assistance. Indeed, one of my good friends suddenly dissappeared after revealing a lot of material to me and I have not heard from him in 5 years. He worked for NSA.

And, my family is also involved with the governments, so I have some there too, with parents involved with both the secret orders and the governments, so double fun for me I guess you could say


You say you know freemasons , I suspect you do not know them very well, or you do not know freemasons of the higher degrees. I have friends of both 32nd and 33rd degree myself. I am not a freemason myself now due to a lot of moving and its difficult to take part locally due to language problems as my language is not fluent enough yet, but I do plan to re-join as soon as I am more fluent in the language, including other orders locally as well which I currently am not active with here in Argentina.

Regarding liars, I am not a fan of them myself, thus I chose to be honest and speak the truth. Even if you believe that would put me in a dangerous situation
In fact, you have no idea about what have happened in my past due to various contacts I have had and material I have been either given or spread otherwise.

I ultimately moved from Norway due to harassment from the governments there, and have been exploring and researching South America the last 5 years, as this is my place of interest in either case, and I am also an hobby-archaeologist & anthropologist.

Blessings,
-Maggador



posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 11:46 PM
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In either case, this thread was not about me but a video clip, if you want to discuss me and esoteric matters, secret orders, and so on feel free to do that in one of my threads specifically created for that purpose. For now I will end my discussion in this thread as I find it useless and uninteresting and I have better things to do.

Best regards,
-Maggador



posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 11:57 PM
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Originally posted by IX-777
I am too busy with research and travels to spend my time wasting it for some "internet ego". I travel around the world and live for specific amount of time in various countries, it is not for no reason I know 8 different languages. I speak 3 different languages on a daily basis.


Some internet ego......LMAFAO....you type this then go onto boast about how you travel and can speak 8 different lanaguages....

And as fior wasting time, if you really were that important, then why are you creating threads on ATS on Christmas day? Im wondering if your secret society has only one member......you



I already mentioned the Outer and Inner circles myself so now you are just repeating me. I never said I would show a membership card of any inner circle, nor any outer circle for that matter, and various orders and societies have different structures, some operate with membership cards, some don't.


And you're a member of all of these? I see some conflicting interests here



I also referred to documents, which have nothing to do with membership cards but still would prove my membership within various orders.


Well show us something then. You claim its okay to tell everyone about all this secret informatin yet you cant simply provide us with any minor detail which will prove that you are telling the truth. If you cant show us anything then I must assume you are lying



Of course if I posted such, you would likely say it would be easy to fake such in either case. And I do not see any reason to post such and compromise myself in either case, enough information about me is around here already.


Compromising, lol. Again its ok to post all these secrets, yet not ok to post some sort of documentation that proves you are not lying. By claiming that the ATS population would call it a fake, is only avoiding the matter at hand



Regarding governmental institutions - I am not the only one whom have gone out speaking about such things, check up the good old "Disclosure Project" for some - as far I know they are still doing fine.


Yeah you and the other 150 or so members that join ATS each year, only to be banned for posting crap.



Who will believe someone telling such things in either case? Of course you will be labeled as somewhat unstable - in the best case. And, yes I have



Well you may be unstable, but thats not the issue. Maybe if you could post some sort of identification to prove it, people would not be so judgemental



Regardless, I have friends that are working in the governments, in places such as NSA, and CIA, FBI, the Air Force etc, which have given me more insights than I could have gotten without their assistance. Indeed, one of my good friends suddenly dissappeared after revealing a lot of material to me and I have not heard from him in 5 years. He worked for NSA.


Again I find this hard to believe as none of what you have provided is coherent or slightly plausible. And its quite clear that your ego is just as big as what everyone keeps saying. People with secrets do not post them on the internet. If tyou were smart enough you may actually realise that the CIA, FBI etc are all aware of the internet, and are able to log your IP address and able to respond quite quickly if you are a threat to national security. Hell, even the mods can do that



And, my family is also involved with the governments, so I have some there too, with parents involved with both the secret orders and the governments, so double fun for me I guess you could say



Double BS



Regarding liars, I am not a fan of them myself,


Your ego suggests otherwise



thus I chose to be honest and speak the truth. Even if you believe that would put me in a dangerous situation
In fact, you have no idea about what have happened in my past due to various contacts I have had and material I have been either given or spread otherwise.


Yet you can not simply present a simple piece of identification to back up your outrageous claims




I ultimately moved from Norway due to harassment from the governments there, and have been exploring and researching South America the last 5 years, as this is my place of interest in either case, and I am also an hobby-archaeologist & anthropologist.

Blessings,
-Maggador


Riiiiiiiight, so you're not just an inner circle member of various secret societies, on high level clearance speaking terms with US government and other government officials, a multilingual genius, but your also an archaeologist and anthropologist?

Ive only said this about one other members, but you are so full of crap, you shouldnt be able to walk upright



posted on Dec, 25 2009 @ 12:10 AM
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This doesnt have anything to do with illumintati imo, and to the op im pretty sure most of the people on this site read your threads for comic relief. I find it funny how seriously you take yourself.



posted on Dec, 25 2009 @ 12:20 AM
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Originally posted by IX-777
In either case, this thread was not about me but a video clip, if you want to discuss me and esoteric matters, secret orders, and so on feel free to do that in one of my threads specifically created for that purpose. For now I will end my discussion in this thread as I find it useless and uninteresting and I have better things to do.

Best regards,
-Maggador



I agree.

Ladies and Gentlemen, please take note and direct posting to the proper topic of discussion:

Creepy TV Show for Kids with Satanic Illuminati Theme.

Thank you.



_______________

On the subject at hand, I can see how some might equate the story of The Mysterious Stranger with nefarious "satanic" bent - but on the whole, I don't feel this movie has any sinister agenda.

Sure, it would be wonderful if everything in life were puppies and daisies, but until humanity reaches a complete conflict-free staus, morality plays of this sort are going to continue to manifest in various guises.

*edit - long night, can't type.


[edit on 12/25/09 by GENERAL EYES]



posted on Dec, 25 2009 @ 12:33 AM
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Originally posted by IX-777
I have no reason to lie about my background or memberships and involvement with both secret societies and orders and governmental institutions. Why would I?


The same reason most people lie on the internet...lonliness, the need to feel "special," to create the person they always wanted to be but never were...even the most honest posters are rarely able to resist a bit of embellishment


It would be easy to discover if I lied, and ultimately I can provide the proof and evidence for my memberships if I care about that as I do have the documents and membership cards and so on.


Yeah, I have a photoshop and a printer/laminater too. Neat little gadgets. I also somehow doubt that 1000-year-old hereditary secret societies of the importance you seem to assign to them issue "membership cards."

I don't mean to be so harsh on you because actuallly I enjoy reading your posts, the same way I enjoy reading novels. But look for factual truth in neither. Also, the fact that you seem to manage to "name drop" your "special-ness" status as a member of this sooper-dooper lineage into every single post, relevant or not, is a bit annoying.

But don't mind me too much, my gimpy leg is acting up again today and I'm in a foul, crusty mood.

Peace,

Silent thunder.



posted on Dec, 25 2009 @ 12:36 AM
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I will post some photos from my travels the last 5 years which includes Mexico, Brazil and Argentina, among various ancient ruins I was researching relating to my website www.AmericanAtlantis.com (which is extremely far from updated)

Since I do not have those photos on this laptop you will have to wait for tomorrow at earliest as I am going to bed.

Why am I creating threads here on Christmas Day? Actually it is the night, it is 3 am, and my day of celebration etc is over. I could ask you the same, why are you posting here on Christmas Day?

I might get some documents shown too tomorrow depending on me finding them or not, as said I move a lot and I am now in a new house and new country.

I was not talking about other ATS members when referring to Disclosure Project, but verified governmental employees ranging from FBI, NSA, CIA, Army, Air Force, NASA etc thave have gone out public and stated they are involved in alien technology, alien contact, manipulation of space photos etc. A couple astronauts are included there.

Why would I not post "secrets" on the internet? It is a superb place to get the message out, probably the best, and I am not only posting messages here but also spreading my word otherwise.

Regarding authorities being able to track me down, how do you think they got to me the first time in Norway before I left? But yes it had to do with that, but now I live in a more free country where these people do not interfere as much and I am more free to state my opinions specially online. I have software installed on my websites btw, and a lot of traffic is indeed from governmental institutions, I even had someone from the Vatican over there.

But as said, I have moved on, learned from earlier mistakes , and now I know what I can tell, how I can tell it, and by whom I am protected and whom I am not. The fact that you yourself disbelieve me is a good example on why this is possible.

Also remember I do not live in the USA so the guys in black from there don't just pop up over here for some guy posting things on the internet that most people will not belive in regardless, and I have not posted information that could be considered a threat to any nations security.

What I said about my family is also true. In addition, my father died in 1991 in an accident, which is the reason I became the grandmaster of the order he was leading before his death, I was already chosen to succeed him and trained for the purpose and I am currently working on re-establishing this order in Latin America as this will be my place of resident for some while.

Again, yes I am a hobby-archaeologist and anthropologist, which is the reason I travel a lot to ancient ruins in different parts of the world. Like I said, I will provide some photos of this just to satisfy you.

Here are some for now that are recent and I had on this computer:


Moon Valley


Gateway of the Gods


Cactus Valley


The Submarine


Mars Mountains


Ruins in the Cerro Uritorco


Cerro Uritorco



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