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I am Thankful for My Government

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posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 02:12 PM
"Wow, on ATS? Really? This guy must be crazy or I am reading that wrong." No sir, you are not reading that wrong. There, I said it. I am thankful for my government. But here's the best part and why my opinion is relevant to the population here at ATS: I have real reasons as to why I feel such a way towards what many here on Above Top Secret would call, our number one (or two) enemy.

I'm not trying to create controversy in an environment where such support for our leaders is frowned upon, but merely stating why I am thankful for my Government, and perhaps why you should be thankful for yours too. Do I feel this way because I am blind, refuse to do what this website's popular motto suggests, or am a tool/disinfo agent? I assure you not, as I examples can explain how the Government has benefited me and the people of my nation, whereas we would be a structureless, chaotic society without it.

Am I about to dismiss the fact that there is corruption within our systems, and greed is unfortunately the main driving force behind some decisions? No, but that is why there are 514,000 other threads on ATS. So if you are going to complain and flame at me, please make it a private U2U, or go join the vast array of other anti-government and anti-leader discussions here.

What I've learned from life so far, is that it is not all about me, nor is it just about my family, nor is it just about my loved ones. Life is about the lives of everyone around you, and for me, that means my nation. It's about sincerely caring and doing what you can for society in a positive, benevolent manner. I have come to have an appreciation for taxes. (Albeit my human nature would still like to be able to keep the money for myself of course). Taxes is what uphold the social structure of benevolence for our society, and what forces, what would otherwise be selfish human nature, to contribute to society what we can to help others. Without taxes, our care would be simply limited to the ones we deem "good enough" to be cared for and only contribute to them whereas taxes ensure that there is a much larger pool of resources available for distribution on a national scale.

Maybe this all sounds like propaganda to you, but I would like to share a short list of some of the things the Government has done for me and maybe you would like to share some too?

-My Government has kept me safe on several occasions, including the destruction of a recent plot of some people that were going to come shoot up and kill people at my University.

-Thanks to my Government, my uncle has been able to successfully battle cancer twice at no financial cost to him, all-the-while supporting his family while their father could not work.

-Because of my Government, I am able to get financial assistance to go to school to earn a higher education without having to worry about working while at school, thus being able to devote my time to studying as the loan only has to be paid off once I get my degree.

-Because of said above point, many students can take advantage of this, go to school, and get a good education whereas they wouldn't otherwise be able to. One student going to school will, in the long run, benefit more people than just him/her self.

-My Government has ensured that there is proper transportation infrastructure so I can go home and see my parents every weekend, and they upkeep the infrastructure to ensure that my travels, along with the travels of millions of others, is kept as safe as engineerically possible.

-The Government has help protected the cities and towns in my area time and time again during terrible floods and other natural disasters by utilizing the Military to help battle these circumstances, assisting people in protecting their way of life.

-The Government has ensured my safety by instilling proper building permits so that I can be sure when I enter a building, it is properly constructed and it won't fall down on me. (Sounds silly, but in essence, it doesn't hurt to be thankful for the small things).

-My Government has put in place laws and guidelines that every Canadian must abide by to protect the rights of each and every one of us, ensure freedom, and allow us to do what we need and want to do, so as long as it doesn't harm others. Without this, we would be a selfish, destructive anarchy.

-The Government has ensured that every Canadian that walks out there on the street has the right to do what they need to, without hindrance from others. If there is, the party that has infiltrated someone else's life in a negative aspect will be dealt with accordingly, attempting to help return that person to a positive, contributing member of society.

For me, Christmas time isn't just a religious event, or time together with family, but also another great opportunity to be thankful for all the good that has happened to me and those around me (as should every day). The Government, to me, is the single largest structure that prevents selfish human nature from seeping through into every part of society, wrecking countless lives as we all work for ourselves.

Is there corruption and wrong doing in Government? Yes, of course! But it seems to me that we always bring up the bad and never the good. So, in saying that, in the spirit of Christmas, can we try and be thankful for things around us? If you can't see anything good about your particular government, then I understand. But at the very least, I think we should be thankful for many things that we have in our lives. If your reading this, you can at least be thankful you have the Internet

If you read all this, then good for you. Like I said in the beginning, its my own feelings, but sometimes I think that we like to dwarf the positive aspects of the Government with the negative ones. I don't think this is always right. Do we ignore the wrong? No, but in the same aspect, we shouldn't ignore the right either.

Thanks for reading and Merry Christmas (or whatever politically correct term you wish to hear that won't offend you) and have a great, new year! Let's hope for the best!

posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 02:14 PM
Well .. you are Canadian .. you should be proud of your government ..

If you could only bring your Gov't to the States that would be great ...

posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 02:16 PM
reply to post by Polynomial C

Thanks, but that doesn't rule out the fact that there is some good that happens within other governments across the globe. The American one wouldn't be the first one to come to my mind in terms of greatness, but places such as France or Switzerland have great social systems!

posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 02:23 PM
Glad you are Canadian sound just like a politician...Maybe you have found your calling....

For every "good" thing you list the government has done, I will list 100 that were not so good...

Ready....Get Set...Go....


posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 02:28 PM
reply to post by theonlyrusty

Thanks. I have always wanted to be a political figure, but not for the money and greed it brings, but rather, I would love to make the Government more of what it's supposed to be; for the people. The Government needs to be held accountable by the people for its actions, yet it still needs to posses enough power to take action itself. But the key is to continually renew the trust of the public in the Government. (And elections don't count)

posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 02:28 PM
Taxes are fine, but I don't think there should be property tax and I don't appreciate it when the government wastes money on Afghanistan or the Olympics, or on frivolous knickknacks for its cronies.

It is the government's job to provide services from our tax money. They're not doing it out the goodness of their hearts. It's what we pay them to do. To work and not to waste our money on worthless causes like war and games for the rich.

Why are you so thankful to our government? They deserve a C grade in my opinion.

posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 02:30 PM
reply to post by For(Home)Country

You should live my life, and then you see what government and police are there for.

they are there just to murder people.

posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 02:31 PM
reply to post by star in a jar

I completely agree with the fact that there is squandering of funds within the Government, wars and Olympics included. The Government needs to seriously consider what it does with the people's money before spending it. Olympics is a hard one, because hosting it actually brings benefit to the local area where it's being hosted, and makes the country itself look good (it's like a showcase I suppose. Good luck to Vancouver next year.)

I am thankful for our Government because I know that without it, we would be nothing more than pockets of waring clans, much like rural areas of middle eastern countries. I am thankful for infrastructure and social services, which we would be without if we, as a people, weren't forced to contribute to such causes by an overarching power.

posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 02:33 PM

As a fellow Canuck and in the spirit of the season, I am thankful for our government as well. (Just not our current conservative government in parliament

-Because of my Government, I am able to get financial assistance to go to school to earn a higher education without having to worry about working while at school, thus being able to devote my time to studying as the loan only has to be paid off once I get my degree

Agreed. The Ministry of Education is paying all of my tuition and also providing me with living expenses. So I am pretty damn thankful for that, otherwise I would be getting student loans. I don't even have to pay it back, assuming I maintain a good average.

Kudos to you for starting this thread eh!

posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 02:34 PM
reply to post by andy1033

I'm sorry to hear that, but I could say the same thing too. "You should live my life. The Police protect me and the Government lets me get extended education, helps me stay healthy, and provides services that benefit everyone around me."

It works both ways. It always will. I can assure you that anarchy wouldn't solve any of your problems.

posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 02:36 PM
reply to post by kommunist

Thank you, sir! It's nice to see some like-minded individuals. Yes, the Government providing access to post-secondary without having to be completely broke is definitely something I have come to appreciate. I know the Government is not flawless, but they do a damn fine job in some areas that I think every Canadian needs to stop and acknowledge at least once.

posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 02:38 PM
I think you put the chicken before the egg. The ONLY things good that come from government is a result of the demands the people made for those things. They are scraps thrown to us every once in awhile so we won't think it's ALL bad.

Everything else that most certainly isn't so good, is the result of greed and hunger for power and ignoring the will of the people.

posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 02:45 PM
Well thought list OP

I certainly focus on the bad in our government far too often but like your uncle, my mother survived stage 4 colon cancer thanks to the health care system. Its not perfect but thanks to the taxes we all pay my family didnt need a second mortgage for treatment,

My only concern is, as you posted, the idea that laws allow us to do what we want as long as it doesn't harm others. Thats not entirely true though I can't say we have it terrible in that regard either.

All in all you brought me up a little bit today so thank you for the early christmas present. My best to you and your family during the holidays and I hope the next year finds you all well.


posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 02:54 PM
I live in Canada, and our government is good just as long as you keep to their life style. im 17, and the thing that saddens me the most is that i have no alternative. nothing to go to but whats been there for a long time. The word government should not exist with its meaning. i say should because i have been persuaded to that conclusion, but i truly agree with it aswell.

posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 02:56 PM
reply to post by For(Home)Country

You are right. Here in Canada, in my opinion the government, for the most part is doing a good job. However, far from flawless like you said. We are very fortunate, we live in a peaceful nation, rich in natural resources and for the most part, a good reputation around the globe.

There are a lot of things that I don't agree with politically with the Harperites on parliament hill, but that's what elections are for.

I do have a Christmas wish that our governments (provincially and federally) would make more of an effort to combat poverty. We have a big problem with poverty and homelessness in this country and it's a travesty that such a rich and prosperous nation would allow people to be discarded to the cold streets. Not sure where your from, but one quick walk downtown Toronto and you'll see what I am talking about.

Still, when its all said and done, we are very lucky my friend.

Merry Christmas!

posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 03:06 PM
The Canadian government isn't much better. Who do you think their role model is? Take a guess.

posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 03:06 PM

I like your premise and that fact you want to go represent the people.

So did Ron Paul..Newt Gingrich..Strom Thurmond...etc, etc,...and they and their ideology gets thrown under the bus after the first year. Look what happened to the signers of the Declaration of Independence here in the US.

Ask anyone in politics right now to do it for a year without being paid and you will see who really loves their country.

Hard to get away from all those freebie dollars and lobbyist junkets while you are "representing the people"...

good luck and more power to you....

Oh, and by the way...when you do get into office, could you just promise one thing as your administration slogan?

"I am here to tell the truth about everything, everytime, all the time. I want the people to know the truth about everything...including CAFR's, UFO's, Taxes, Budgets, Pentagon Spending, Lobbyists, and Health Care"....

Hope you can dodge bullets....


posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 03:06 PM
reply to post by thebulldog

I'm glad to hear your mother has made it through the hard trek that is cancer! Although I am spiritual and believe that God does the supernatural, I must also thank the health care system which aides in the process as well. Also, I am very glad that I was able to cheer you up a little, as happiness is something we all pursue, and bringing it to someone in a pure and original form benefits both parties, and makes for a great environment! I wish you and your family a very merry Christmas as well!

reply to post by gandhi

You're right. I agree that in Canada, if you want to live a comfortable life you must fit into certain aspects that is outlined by society, but isn't this the kind of conformity that keeps us civil?

reply to post by kommunist

Yes, not everything that is done on Parliament Hill can be agreed with, but thus is democracy. If everyone got their way, things would be a mess I assure you. And yes, Poverty is a big issue. Not to be stereotypical, but it runs rampant on reserves as well, another key issue that must be addressed.

But regardless, we are indeed very very blessed to live in such a modest Nation! Merry Christmas to you as well!

posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 03:10 PM
reply to post by theonlyrusty

Thank you sir for your kind words! Yes, it seems as if many politicians that do stand up for truth means no funds from lobbyists and large corporations, but that needs light shed on it! People are against communism, socialism, and big-government intervention, but that is the only way to curb the influence of large corporations!

And yes, if I were to be a politician, truth and transparency would be my main goal! The Government is a large body and effects everyone in a nation. Everything it does should be available to be scene by the people it operates above. Like I've said, there needs to be a mutual and justified trust between the people and the Government. If that can happen, we will see nations become great nations!

posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 03:11 PM
Well, here we go....obviously you have never studied the human mind or the governments actual creation. Your government as well as the U.S. and not U.S.A. government are corporations of the "Crown Trust" which is in the center of London. Look on the London stock exchange and you will find them. Governments were originally created by the people in order to "protect and serve" but they have been turned 180 to enslave and subvert. The government gives you certain things to keep you happy enough so you will be a good slave. If you treat slaves poorly they will revolt and not do what you wish to be done.

If people in America knew that they could reclaim their "strawman" and live for free, virtually, all they would need is to buy food and clothes, so that is all they would have to work for. They could "discharge" all of their debt to the trust account that was created in their "birth name" 2 weeks after their actual birth. File a UCC-1 statement, make out a security agreement taking control of the strawman and then file a Common Law Lien on all property and you are there.

Mary Croft has it all, read all of her writtings and you "may" get it. People in Canada can do the same thing, but I think it's called a PPS statement. Anyway, this gives you back control of the goverment and stops the tax and spend routine of TPTB. She actually lives in Canada.

For those who are wondering where the money would come from to fund government then, it comes from the Corporations who export and import products and such, because THEY are given creation by the government and not we the people. Just read about Andrew Jacksons presidency.

As for eductation, you are not "learning" anything you didn't already know, they are just steering you away from the truth and reality. I have known many people who can "parrot" a book and they are smart, but when it comes to common sense, they are dumber than a bag of rocks. They couldn't find their butt with both hands and a state-of-the-art GPS system. Intelligent people use all their faculties to solve any problem.

I would rather be intelligent than smart. But people have become so "dependent" on the government, they will not investigate how to make it right. To correct it so that it works properly for everyone. NONE of the current problems, GW, health care, taxes, crime and drugs or anything NEED to exist, they do exist for the enslavement of mankind by TPTB.

We need to break this trend and set the record straight, think you have it decent now, imagine if the world were set right, with no more war, no more crime or war on drugs, no more bullcrap Global warming, no more religious strife, no more famine, no more disease (and that would happen because ALL disease is man made, that is a fact), but then what would the government do? What would the police do if everyone was a law abiding citizen? Imagine the geniune culture of each country, how different and awesome it would be. But most of that has been ruined.

So you see, what makes more sense here? Keep TPTB in place and allow them MORE power and control, or stop them NOW and set the record straight? I would rather stop them now and set the record straight, it may suck for a few years but it can be done.

Watch the "Ring of Power" refered to as "The Hidden Empire" at:

One other thing, want some good info and a philosophical viewpoint on government and the ACTUAL law? Visit here:

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