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I have nothing against the concept of legal immigration. But this requires RULE OF LAW...you know, stuff like filling out paperwork, getting a visa...things most of the rest of the civilized world takes for granted but for some reason is considered taboo to even contemplate in much of America.
Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by silent thunder
Originally posted by JohnPhoenix
The Illegals may not act like this if it was required for immigrants to learn and speak English. This is one of the problems.
When in public it should be mandatory to speak English especially for Mexicans. I would not presume to go into Mexico and be Rude enough in front of them by speaking English. But as an American I have been taught morals and ethics. I do not know if these Mexican parents teach such things to their kids, but I know it seems like they do not because I can be in a crowd o people and here two of them talking away in Spanish and it is very rude.
Originally posted by Copperflower
My condolences and prayers for this family and community. I suppose the other residents aren't feeling very secure now.
Where do these kinds of bold people get off? Is it that they fall for what they see on TV, and feel free to flaunt the law or even standard decency? Maybe they think we just don't have any and it is a free-for-all.
What's a person to do? Doesn't INS still harass ALL kinds of immigrants? How can they not be involved when so many people are all together in neighborhoods and groups?
I've had quite a few legal immigrant friends and some illegal. But the legal ones I met in college, and the illegals at different restaurants I worked in over the years. They were remarkably similar in that they were very honest, very hardworking, and very grateful to be here. What's up with the hoodlums?
Aren't they afraid they'll be arrested or deported? Why not? I guess the INS is too busy cracking down on students, like my friend who took 11 years to get citizenship. He paid for school himself with a pizza delivery job, at triple the rate since he wasn't just out-of-state, but international (they get charged about 3 times the tuition of an in-state student), obeyed every law, has perfect credit, and was just a really great person to have around. We were close for many years, and I found out that his dad and sister are both doctors in his native country, his dad was VP of the medical school, and he was on his own if he stayed here, but he chose to, and worked long and hard for it. He also was harassed after 9/11, as were all of his friends, even though they're from Bangladesh! But he stayed, and paid, and now he's legally a citizen.
But the restaurant workers I've known were hardly different, just not raised as well, not as educated.
These other folks....again, does anyone know what the heck happened to the INS?
Originally posted by sr_robert1
I don't see why someone hasn't offed the murderer from the OP yet. They have him in court?! 1. HE'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE 2. HE KILLED SOMEONE
Either send him back or show him some street justice. If that was my family member killed this illegal would have been dead in minutes.
It's obvious the government is more concerned about stealing the money and freedoms of the citizens than even caring about illegal immigrants and the effect they're having on our society. In the old days, people didn't rely on the government, they did things themselves, and STUFF GOT DONE. If we want stuff done, we'll have to take it into our own hands. I've called in on more than my fair share of illegal immigrants that I know are still around a year later. Maybe a good ol' fashioned beating would send them a clear message. Or we could round some up, tie 'em up, and haul 'em back ourselves. Can anyone say ROAD TRIP?
Originally posted by JohnPhoenix
Originally posted by toshly
Close the border, Kick all illegal Immigrant. Problem solved, If people want in on the US they'll do it the legal way. Stricter guidelines would help, like being able to speak English as you're primary language. Send the army into the gang infested ghetto's, with a heavy presence I doubt they'd be half the trouble. Gang cultures getting out of hand.
[edit on 24-12-2009 by toshly]
I am all for that But.. we have another problem
It is the big corporations that hire illegals that keep them here. In the documentary Food.INC you see illegals getting arrested and deported - But the reason they are here.. working for the corporate farms goes unchecked. No one is going after these corporations!
They even have ads taken out in Mexican newspapers advertising that they will hire illegals!
We need to make it Illegal for companies to hire Illegals and if caught Don't fine them, but Shut Them Down Permanently.
This is why our boarders are not closed up tight. the big companies have lobbyists telling politicians if you want to get re-elected an have our support you will do as we ask.
Well you know what.. It's high time the People have lobbyist too.