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Originally posted by Doc Velocity
Originally posted by AlreadyGone
Lucifer rebelled and subsequently became Satan... as he was Satan in the Garden of Eden in Genesis.
Correction... Nowhere in Genesis is the Serpent of Eden identified as Satan or the Devil or anything else except as a serpent.
Revelations
012:007 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
012:008 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
012:009 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Originally posted by Chainmaker
This theory could explain how that God created in 7 days...literally.
Scientists: Time Itself May Be Slowing Down
www.wired.com...
If time increases in speed exponentially as you go back in time toward the moment of initial creation, then billions of years in past time could equal one day in today's time.
Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
reply to post by troubleshooter
Nice try at thread derailing, but your post has absolutely nothing to do with the OP, thus has no bearing on the conversation... This thread has nothing to do with Science, evolution, etc. It is dealing solely with the Creation Myth... Do try to stay on topic!
Originally posted by troubleshooter
reply to post by JaxonRoberts
If evolutionists could actually 'prove' origins there would be no argument.
The fact is science is the study of the observable and reproducible...
...so if origins can not be observed or reproduced you have no basis on which to assert your conclusions.
Science then by its own definition has nothing to say about origins.
Case closed.
Originally posted by rusethorcain
Originally posted by troubleshooter
reply to post by JaxonRoberts
If evolutionists could actually 'prove' origins there would be no argument.
The fact is science is the study of the observable and reproducible...
...so if origins can not be observed or reproduced you have no basis on which to assert your conclusions.
Science then by its own definition has nothing to say about origins.
Case closed.
Science has proved origin of the species. There are questions that remain but for the most part it is clear we are most closely related to the chimpanzee and we can follow our evolution backward from there to a single cell.
Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
If Genesis and the Bible are truly the 'Infallible Word of God'...
Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
By Biblical standards, the Earth (and the whole Universe itself) are only 6,000 years old (give or take a century or two).
Meanwhile, the physical evidence says quite a different story. It points to a Universe that is over 13 BILLION years old, and Earth that is over 4 BILLION years old, and that mankind is over 100,000 years old... Quite a difference!
Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
Now if the Bible is correct and all of the physical evidence (let's just leave the origin of life and the diversity of species out of this one, shall we?) is false, then God is deceiving us... lying to us... leading us away from the Truth... Hmm, I seem to remember that being the purview of Satan, Lucifer, the Devil, the Serpent, or whatever name you wish to use for that entity... I don't care how you slice it, it is the equivalent of holding up an apple and stating, "THIS IS AN ORANGE!!!"
So, since there is absolutely ZERO evidence supporting the Creation Myth, and it must be taken on Faith alone, why would the Creator intentionally try to deceive His children, whom He proclaims to love??? (This out to be good!)
Originally posted by rusethorcain
reply to post by troubleshooter
So you are admitting it is TRUE but only question it's origin. Then we agree. Evolution is not a theory as a layman uses the word theory. Evolution itself is a fact. This can be denied with all manner of argument but it will not change a thing.