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posted on Dec, 23 2009 @ 10:37 AM
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A post on a recent thread brought this back to my attention.


Originally posted by Blaine91555
My interest in asking questions of the Humane Society was from having two rescued pets from one of their shelters die of cancer which formed at the exact location of an RFID Chip implant they put in. It is now thought the lubricant and not the implant caused this. The Humane Society remained mute on the subject when I tried to get a response. My Vet was so interested that he had the lab work done on tissue samples and paid for it out of his own pocket. He too went mute on the subject shortly after.



This was in the news back in 2007 but, memories are short and with the new Healthcare Bill about to pass and worries of forced chipping in humans, I thought it necessary to bring it back into the limelight.


New York Times


Shares of Applied Digital Solutions and of its publicly traded subsidiary VeriChip, which makes an implanted microchip for identifying people, fell sharply yesterday as investors reacted to a report this weekend linking the tiny radio device to cancer.

The report, by The Associated Press, suggested that VeriChip and federal regulators had ignored or overlooked animal studies raising questions about whether the chip or the process of injecting it might cause cancer in dogs and laboratory rodents.

VeriChip said that it had not been aware of the studies cited in the report, according to the article, but both the company and federal regulators said yesterday that animal data had been considered in the review of the application to implant the chips in humans. They said that there were no controlled scientific studies linking the chips to cancer in dogs or cats and that lab rodents were more prone than humans or other animals to developing tumors from all types of injections.


Please visit the link provided for the complete story.



Despite Verichip's denials, there are some studies out there which show we should be concerned.


Antichips.com


The report evaluates eleven articles previously published in toxicology and pathology journals. In six of the articles, between 0.8% and 10.2% of laboratory mice and rats developed malignant tumors around or adjacent to the microchips. Two additional articles reported microchip-related cancer in dogs. See Original Research Articles section below for details.

In almost all cases, the malignant tumors, typically sarcomas, arose at the site of the implants and grew to surround and fully encase the devices. These fast-growing, malignant tumors often led to the death of the afflicted animals. In many cases, the tumors metastasized or spread to other parts of the animals. The implants were unequivocally identified as the cause of the cancers



The report goes on to state that in studies that found no evidence of cancer suffered from methodological limitations that call their statistical validity into question. Those limitations include the small number of animals used and the short duration of the studies.


Study Paper





The report shows IMO that the studies comissioned by verichip and and the FDA were tailor made to dismiss any public concerns about cancer from chips.


Could this be a case of our Government lying to us again?


Naw, they would never do that, would they?


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[edit on 23-12-2009 by FortAnthem]




posted on Dec, 23 2009 @ 10:41 AM
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Not saying this is true, but in theory they should be able to do this and practically anything.

I would assume, stopping some hormones would induce cancers in people, and they know this. If you can control a things hormones, surely making something have cancer, would be easy.

The world of tomorrow, is just as rubbish as the one today, but most will be blind, to all the techs and what they can do.



posted on Dec, 23 2009 @ 10:45 AM
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Huh. Both my dogs got the chip when we adopted them (2000? Somewhere around there.) And one of them for sure has a big tumor lump right between his shoulderblades, right where they put it. I never put the two together before.



posted on Dec, 23 2009 @ 10:49 AM
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I'll be sure to check my pets today.
I suggest you all do the same.



posted on Dec, 23 2009 @ 10:54 AM
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Get your dog to the vet ASAP. From what I read, these tumors spread quickly and are often fatal.

Good luck and God bless.



posted on Dec, 23 2009 @ 11:10 AM
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Two of my three dogs are chipped. Just called my vet and they charge $275.00 (each pet) to remove the chip! There goes the tax return.

Edited to add: Made an appointment for my Border Collie today.

[edit on 23-12-2009 by brilab45]



posted on Dec, 23 2009 @ 11:37 AM
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Not only the implantation of microhchips is causing cancer in pets. Vaccinations can cause sarcomas in cats at the vaccination site.


Incidence of VAFS—The true incidence of vaccine-associated sarcomas in cats is unknown. Sarcomas develop at vaccination sites at rates ranging from 1 case/10,000 cats to 10 cases/10,000 cats and develop primarily after administration of rabies virus and FeLV vaccines.3,4,16 These estimates are based on retrospective epidemiologic studies and surveys of biopsy specimens submitted to diagnostic laboratories and, in conjunction with current estimates of the US cat population and the number of annual visits to veterinarians, suggest that between 2,200 and 22,000 cats will develop vaccine-associated sarcomas each year.

In a retrospective study4 of 345 cats with vaccine-associated sarcomas, the risk that a cat would develop a sarcoma after administration of a single vaccine in the cervical-interscapular region (a site not recommended by the VAFSTF or AAFP guidelines) was 50% higher than the risk that a cat not receiving any vaccines at this site would. In the same study, the risk for a cat given 2 vaccines at the same site was approximately 127% higher, and the risk for a cat given 3 or 4 vaccines was 175% higher than the risk for a cat not receiving vaccines at that site. Time to tumor development in cats following vaccination was as short as 3 months and as long as 3 years or longer.4

www.avma.org...
www.avma.org...



posted on Dec, 23 2009 @ 01:22 PM
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You posted a very interesting review. I didn't expect that implants would induce such high rates of cancer developments.

Since the primary objective of the three criticised studies was not cancer detection, I don't share your opinion. These three studies were probably not commissioned “tobacco science”. But they were certainly unsuitable to detect a relation between implants and cancer.


Ball et al., 1991 Evaluation of a microchip implant system used for animal identification in rats. Laboratory Animal Science. 1991;41(2):185—186.

www.antichips.com...


Murasugi et al., 2003 Histological reactions to microchip implants in dogs. The Veterinary Record. 2003(Sept 13);328.

www.antichips.com...


Rao & Edmondson, 1990 Tissue reaction to an implantable identification device in mice. Toxicologic Pathology. 1990;18(3):412– 416.

www.antichips.com...



posted on Dec, 23 2009 @ 05:09 PM
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Originally posted by Drunkenshrew

Since the primary objective of the three criticised studies was not cancer detection, I don't share your opinion. These three studies were probably not commissioned “tobacco science”. But they were certainly unsuitable to detect a relation between implants and cancer.



Good point. But still, Verichip and the FDA continue to claim the chip is perfectly safe in humans.

What studies are they using and are they purposely ignoring studies with findings they don't like?



posted on Dec, 23 2009 @ 05:51 PM
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I believe, they hope no respected researcher or organisation will look at these animal studies and compare them with humans. If a conscientious scientist tries to do this, they will counter him with “fake science” and discredit him through PR companies (currently their company is called Gibraltar, Verichip is now called PositiveID). Furthermore sarcomas are very rare in humans. Even if implanted microchips will become much more common, it might take time till someone is able to prove an effect in humans.

It is the same with vaccines. To determine if vaccines have a net benefit or cause serious side effects, the best results can be achieved in large epidemiological studies, comparing vaccinated with unvaccinated subjects. For humans these studies don't exist. Studies from pets indicate, that vaccines can cause cancer and have serious side effects. But these results are ignored by public health services.
www.drcarley.com...



posted on Dec, 23 2009 @ 06:15 PM
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Originally posted by Drunkenshrew

(currently their company is called Gibraltar, Verichip is now called PositiveID


I guess they changed their name after the '07 stories. They are hoping we will forget.

I hope this info gets out to more pet owners as well.



posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 08:51 AM
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FortAnthem.....

I commend you for posting this. I have 3 Hungarian Vizslas .1 male 12 yrs old, 1 female 6 yrs old and 1 deceased female (her sister).

My dogs are treated better than most children and we are very studious in learning everything we can about what is best for our dogs health. We had our 2 females spayed and chipped when we acquired them. After what we have been through, I feel as if I have been blatantly betrayed by the dog food companies and the vet industry. We just naturally trusted our vet when he told us to get the chips and, like most animal lovers out there, we feel into the hypnotic illusion that the food that was being advertised was actually good for our pets. WOW!!!!! Were our eyes ever open when we started doing research!!!!!!!

One of my females started getting lumps in her lymph nodes at about 3 years old. They would come and go and we just thought it was"normal" since the vet didn't seem to be too concerned about it. When the vaccinations came due, I was reluctant to get the shots worried that it might somehow overload her system. The vet said it was nothing to worry about. Well, low and behold, our worst fears were realized. Her throat swelled up and she had golf ball sized lumps in the back nodes of her legs. She also had the classic golf ball sized lump right at the spot of...you guessed it...her "chip"!!!!

We had to, after numerous vet visits, take her to an oncologist specialist that ran a number of very expensive tests on her and talked us into having chemo to keep her symptoms to a minimum. 3 rounds of chemo
(which btw is the same protocol as humans) later, and countless $1000's of dollars, we had to suffer watching our dog go through some of the worst things one can imagine. At that point, I really dug in and found out everything there was to know about dog cancer, dog food, vaccinations, etc. We learned that almost everything we were doing was, in fact, making the cancer WORSE.

Here's what I found out. Vaccines are deadly to dogs, tap water is deadly to dogs, 99% of processed dog food is deadly to dogs, anything plastic is deadly to dogs, fertilizer on your yard is deadly to dogs, carpet on the floor, paint on the garage floor, etc. etc. is deadly to dogs.

Most people have no idea what they are doing to their dogs by feeding them the "leading brand" dog food. If people only knew what dog food consisted of, they would never give it to their dogs again. When I really dug and found out the truth, it made me sick to my stomach. When I found out what my dog was going through by getting a vaccination, I literally cried.

There are many pages and forums out there for animal lovers to find out this info. The links are too numerous to list here. A good one to start with is www.caninecancer.com . The rabbit hole is deep but how much does one cherish their pet?

To make a long story short, I ended up having some pretty strong words with my "oncologist" and was told that if I did things my way, my dog wouldn't last 6 weeks. We changed everything about our dogs lifestyle and eating habits and refused ANY vaccination (it's legal to do so) and saw our dogs health improve immediately. We changed to an "alternative vet" and did alot of different things from the mainstream. After about a year and alot of love, our beloved dogs system just couldn't take it anymore. We were detoxing her of all the "poisons" in her body from "the canine industry" and her heart finally just got overwhelmed. She passed away one night about 2:30 in my arms. Devastated doesn't even come close to describing our feelings. I was ready to drive my pickup through the front doors of the illustrious oncologists building and see how many BMW payments I could make him miss.

Our 2 other dogs eat what is called a "prey diet" and you cannot believe the change in them. The 12 year old male chases squirrels out in the backyard like he is a puppy. They only get "pure water" and will turn their noses up at tap water...gee, I wonder why....and they NEVER get anything but a real bone to chew on...no plastic for any reason.

My other female started limping the other day and I just passed it of to her pulling a muscle while chasing squirrels. Well guess what? She has a small lump on her shoulder exactly where her chip is. We are getting it taken out immediately...

It is my fondest wish that for all of those folks out there that are involved in the mistreatment, misdiagnoses, the lab testing of and the disinfo campaign of anything that is detrimental to helpless animals, I sincerely hope you suffer the most painful, drawn out and painful death that one could imagine. You don't deserve to live a happy life. I would jump for joy to see on the news that the verichip building burned to the ground with the CEO in it.

I will put as many links together as possible and list them in a later thread.

As you can see, I feel fairly passionate about my animals.


peas



posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 09:26 AM
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here's a small list of links.

There is plenty of info out there.

If they are doing this to dogs, can you even imagine what they are doing to US and what we are NOT being told?

Does anyone else ever notice that "they" have plenty of treatments for symptoms but they never mention much about PREVENTION?

www.petwellbeing.com...
daveola.com...
www.dogcancercare.com...
www.kimparkerdvm.com...
www.epinions.com...
www.healthyhappydogs.com...
www.preciouspets.org...
www.caninecancer.net...
www.caninecancer.org...
www.dogcancer.net...
caninecancerproject.com...
www.curecaninecancer.org...


peas



posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 09:33 AM
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For those whose pets do get cancer, I once had a dog left in my care who was expected to only live a few more weeks. Little Teckel, who had looked after me on a previous visit, (I got meningitis, and he wouldn't let the noisy children into my bedroom,) now needed me to care for him.

I had just acquired You can Conquer Cancer, written by an Aussie vet who really loves animals, and it had a section at the back on curing your dog of cancer.

So I fed Teckel raw kangaroo, raw rabbit, raw eggs and various supplements, (I had to eat some myself to prove this new stuff was edible,
) and it worked. And cuddled him lots, but I'm sure the animals you guys own get lots of affection already.

When the dogs owner returned from a last holiday with her dying husband this dog that had been too weak to walk up one step, incontinent and bald ran to her car and leapt into her arms. And she sat there crying, thinking Teckel had died and been replaced with a new puppy.

The local vet: "well occasionally unexplained cases of remission do occur."

Teckel had been ten. He finally died at 14 from a heart attack while hiking.

Of course you can't cure everything, but it's sure worth trying.



posted on Dec, 26 2009 @ 01:37 AM
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My 10 year old Dobie has a bump over his chip. It is about 1 inch by 1/2 inch and stands out about half inch as well.

He is old, is bald from his thyroid problems, is in pain from hips, and not expected to make it much longer; he will not be tested for cancer. I am thinking about putting him down as I fear he is in pain and cant tell me.

Is it possible that pets and lab animals do not live long enough to see the cancer set in all the time? Humans have a much longer life span than do dogs and may not see the negative effects of the chip till an entire generation has been marked.

Any info on how long it took most of these dogs to develop the cancer? I think this information could be valuable.





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