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EU/IMF Revolt: Greece, Iceland, Latvia May Lead the Way

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posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 12:50 AM
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People are ready for riots but we lack people who would lead the war against fascist pigs.
In my opinion first to lead the way for war against fascist government is Greece - they are already fighting in the streets and they have anarcho-syndicalist organizations.
I hope Latvia will follow. We need a spark and that might be Greece.



Well, most chances are aliens would be landing first than greeks revolting.
As for the riots, its just the push from radicals lefts and obscure anarchistic elements who nobody really knows who guides them as a display of force of certain ideological factions for illegal aliens to gain a political foothold from the back door, because believe it or not illegal aliens are participating in these riots and no authority can do anything about it else everyone would scream about human rights. That's supposed to be a democracy and apparently the corrupt and long overdue political system needs new voters that will just vote them blindly ..or else, and decided that now they can just "import" them. In fact more political parties (especially from the diminishing left) started to smell the "opportunity" and began bidding like crazy higher and higher numbers for aliens to be legalized, taking a bid at those supposed future legal citizens percentage of support as a their last hope to float just a bit above the minimal requirements for parliament representation at every next elections. It's a nice dubious scheme where everyone of the fat cats and their puppet politicians and their yes men get served well while the rest of the people just watching helpless in the sidelines, watching their wages get squashed every year and prices of everything skyrocketing, while quality of living steadily sinking lower each consecutive year. That's what all the riots are all about since nothing really changed over a year.
Nice idiotic society we all live in.
Nothing to see here move along. As I said, we have better chances to see alien mass landings happening than seeing people in that part of the world revolting. Take it from me.

[edit on 24-12-2009 by spacebot]




posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 02:14 AM
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Originally posted by WhiteDevil013
reply to post by Bananarama
 


My grandmother was from Lativa, Riga specifically. I wish she was still around to see this. She fled across Europe at the age of 15 after witnessing her whole family murdered at the hands of the nazi's. She made it to the US as a stowaway on the Queen Mary, which hit a land mine and sunk halfway across the Atlantic. She was a strong woman and always said that the place where she came from has been held back by the European Elite for centuries. Everyone who comes from a place like Latvia, resents groups like the IMF. She always swore that one day they would rise up against the corrupted tyrants and officials, and finally be a great place...


The Queen Mary wasn't sunk. She was involved in a collision with a Royal Naval escort but that didn't harm her.
If you go down to Miami you will see her tied up to a wharf.



posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 02:25 AM
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Midnight Destroyer, The Titanic sank in 1912. My Great Grandfather was a Captain on the White Star line the owners of the Titanic .
From memory Hitler didn't start his little escapade till the early 1930s'.

[edit on 24-12-2009 by eddiebelfast]



posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 02:34 AM
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Iceland was seriously irresponsible and has been for quite a long time.


Iceland is SMALL and naive. A few rich Icelanders got into the "Monopoly Game" and lost. Being so small it could be bullied and has been. Are they responsible? Yes, but not any more than the US, Britain, and others who got the "Monopoly Game" started.

There is a good book around described here

Economic Hitman

Enjoy



posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 03:56 AM
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"In my opinion first to lead the way for war against fascist government is Greece - they are already fighting in the streets and they have anarcho-syndicalist organizations."

www.ahistoryofgreece.com...

The above link is an interesting read about the CIA backed Military Junta in Greece which lasted from 1967-74. There is strong evidence to indicate the leader of the Greek Junta, Colonel George Papadopoulos, may have previously been on the CIA's payroll. I believe this would have made him one of the first, if not the first leader of a foreign country to be on the CIA's books.

Greek Intelligence Agency, KYP, donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to Nixon's '68 and '72 Presidential campaigns. When evidence was uncovered the CIA allegedly provided KYP with these funds (who else could have provided them?), the US Senate began nosing around. Henry Kissinger (a/k/a 911 cOMMISSION StoneWaller) persuaded the Senate to shut down the investigation. Now we have a clearer historical picture why GWB was so eager to have Kissinger spearhead the 911 cOMMISSION.

It has been theorized the Greek Junta was an experiment to analyze how a western populace would react to a Military Dictatorship. This was a rehearsal, so to speak, prior to the main act. Of course, the "official version" at the time stated this Government overthrow was required to stop the spread of Communism from the USSR into Western Europe.

Your statement above is correct; Greece is a lightning rod for political unrest and has had a histrory of overthrowing Monarchies and political parties.

Below is an article in the NY Times pertaining to a Greek Law prohibiting law enforcement officials from entering Greek Universities. The law was enacted after the 1973 student uprising at Athens Polytechnic resulting in 23 fatalities.

www.nytimes.com...

To be frank, Greece does need a hardass to come in every couple of decades and clean out the garbage and get the house in order. Who knows, maybe by the end of the century they could even start manufacturing automobiles.


[edit on 24-12-2009 by SphinxMontreal]



posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 05:16 AM
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Originally posted by shakespear1



There is a good book around described here

Economic Hitman

Enjoy


The is also a variety of coresponding videos. Here is one link there are others.



video link



posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 12:27 PM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by kozmo
The rich elite should be crapping themselves. Soon the peasants will storm the castle with torches ablaze and pitchforks in hand. The lynchings will not be pretty at all!


Um, how are the peasants gonna cross the seas to Dubai?




posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 02:16 PM
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Eldard
I think its the pessents in the U.S. who will storm the castle in the U.S.
Then also the pessents in Dubi can storm the castle there with the pitch forks and torches or what ever else they use in Dubi.



posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 03:15 PM
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Originally posted by IFA420
reply to post by RedGolem
 


good article s+f, the imf is the reason people in a lot of countries in africa are starving, they dont want their debt payed back they just want to use that debt to screw the country out of its resources and use the countries people as slaves, the imf is despicable and needs to go, but i dont think that's gonna happen soon they are just too powerful, they will probably be part of the NWO
in some form or another.


There may be some truth in this, but the real reason why many African countries are is such a poor condition is that they are run by corrupt regimes. The IMF merely works within the situation they are presented with and provide loans where no-one else will. If these tin-pot and ruthless dicatorships and corrupt and dysfunctional regimes foul it all up then they are to blame and not the IMF.

On topic. These European nations are just broke and they need to do something about it to save themselves and save the next generation. I seem to recall the UK implementing drastic measures to secure an IMF loan in the late 1970s and at least the Gov at the time had the balls to face the political consequences.

Regards



posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 04:06 PM
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Paraphi
what you are saying about the governments being corrupt is true. But space up several messages and look at the video that I posted a link to. That will explain why I say the IMF is to blame for a lot.



posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 05:37 PM
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Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984
[I honestly believe this is planned, remember the old phrase "order out of chaos".


Plans seldom go as initially planned. Yeah I have read about how the illuminati control both the right and left political ideologies, but imo this is not true.

There is no such thing as illuminati! Only extremely rich and powerful people behind the curtain controlling the west. Yes russia and china sold-out but people will eventually see it was all one big scam and they will rise to defeat these scumbags once and for all.

Paper money is not real if we all agree its fake. Fiat money is a confidence trick of the ptb to fool us common folks into submission. They bribe local, national and international leaders with this fake money and they in turn fulfill their master's wishes. Once the masses realise this is their main tool, it will be used against them to bring them down. First the elected governments and then the "illuminati"!

[edit on 24-12-2009 by EarthCitizen07]



posted on Dec, 24 2009 @ 09:06 PM
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Originally posted by eddiebelfast
Midnight Destroyer, The Titanic sank in 1912. My Great Grandfather was a Captain on the White Star line the owners of the Titanic .
From memory Hitler didn't start his little escapade till the early 1930s'.

But Hitler's signs of his rise to power were still in evidence before he actually became dictator...As it is in America now, it took about 100 years for the President's Office to gradually build the "administrative infrastructure" to the point it's at now. The biggest pushes began with Clinton, with Bush & Obama running pretty close to being tied for the biggest pushes of all American history. But take note that Obama is close to Bush's push now, even comparing Obama's 1 year to Bush's 8 years.

As of now, anyone in Office as POTUS has literal dictator's power, a time-bomb ready to blow. With the multiple, constant & perpetual "States of Emergency" we've been living under for the past few decades, the POTUS can be dictator with the public mention of 2 words: Martial Law.

Ever since the American Civil War with Lincoln's Executive Order #1, each EO & each new "administrative action" has sapped more power from Congress & Judiciary (& by default, the People). A "rise to power" takes time, ya' know...Post-WW2 Germany was a ruined democracy when Hitler started, so it didn't take long, really. History has proven that democracies are easy to corrupt...A bankrupt one, even more so.

My Grandad saw & recognized the signs early. But America as a Constitutional Republic took longer...America is the first Constitutional Republic in history that established Common Law as the Supreme Law of the Land, so "they" had to be more careful. But, we've already breezed through democracy & now moved into a socialist government (a government that taxes wealthy & re-distributes to the poor is termed as "socialist").

Have you wondered why America seems to be following in Hitler's footsteps so closely (if a bit more slowly)? Look up Project Paperclip.

[edit on 24-12-2009 by MidnightDStroyer]



posted on Dec, 25 2009 @ 05:46 PM
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You don't get it. The Elite are not that stupid. They are systematically destroying the West so they can concentrate on nation building in the East.

Pitchforks, really?




posted on Dec, 25 2009 @ 06:44 PM
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Originally posted by MidnightDStroyer
But, we've already breezed through democracy & now moved into a socialist government (a government that taxes wealthy & re-distributes to the poor is termed as "socialist").



In principle I quite like social democracy.

Unfortunately for you lot, Socialism (American Style) seems to involve taxing the poor and re-distributing it to all those 'too big to fail' corporations.

Bummer



posted on Dec, 25 2009 @ 10:18 PM
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Originally posted by Dagar
Unfortunately for you lot, Socialism (American Style) seems to involve taxing the poor and re-distributing it to all those 'too big to fail' corporations.

Not quite like that...for example, the new Health Care Reform recently passed is primarily taxing the Middle Class that's already declining into extinction; Middle Class have been "under siege" for over 5 decades. But even though the new taxes from the Health Reform will be imposed immediately, none of the Reform's provisions will be enacted for another 4 years.

The recent "Bailout Bill" you mentioned only bailed out the financial loaning institutions from their own bad judgment in using mortgage "derivatives; It was primarily the Middle Class that suffered from all of those foreclosures. Wall Street is recovering, but Main Street is still in ruins...


It's the poor who receive the "socialist welfare state" benefits. The rich stay rich from "money" borrowed & invested from the Federal Reserve; the Middle Class is the primary source being taxed to pay off those benefits for the poor.

In effect, it's the Middle Class that's suffered worst & this one example of many only serves to continue widening the gap between rich & poor even further than it already is. Two-tier society is in the making.

All being done "for the greater good" & in violation of their Oaths of Office. The Constitution Preamble does mention "promote the general welfare" but, being in the Preamble, it's mentioned as one part of a five-pronged goal, stated in general terms...The remaining Constitution & Bill of Rights specifies how to pursue those goals. Any violation of the Constitution means giving up on one or more Preamble-goals while pursuing the others...But the word "and" used in the Preamble link all five goals together by the specifics in the main text of the Constitution & the Bill of Rights. (Emphasis added below)

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.


For one example, Government Officers are not allowed to trade off "securing the blessings of Liberty" in favor of "providing for the common defense." And yet, in "providing for the common defense," they send the vast majority of our standing military abroad, spread thinly, across the world...This, when combined with more than 30 years of "relaxing" Immigration Laws & more recent refusals to enforce it, serves only to weaken our borders & allows the self-same "terrorists" that they're fighting while abroad to cross into the USA virtually unhindered.

In the meantime, the Federal Government have already "absorbed" Rightful State Militias into the National Defense Force & imposed illegal regulation of private ownership of Arms...In short, they're not only failing in "providing for the common defense" but also "restricting the blessings of Liberty."

In essence, they say they're "beefing up security," but with all things considered, it's the Federal Government's own security against the People that they're beefing up. They intentionally agitate the population towards revolt while setting up the infrastructure for a Police State consisting of foreign (United Nations) troops & hired mercenaries...Who do not take the same Oath of Office as our standing military does!

The best thing they could do to "provide for the common defense" would be to return the National Defense Forces back to State control, as Militias, disband the Department of Homeland Security (these are merely more Federal Troops within State jurisdictions!) & repeal the unlawful Arms restrictions on the People. At that point, they'd be committing fewer violations of the Constitution...



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