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History of climate gets 'erased' online

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posted on Dec, 21 2009 @ 09:02 PM

History of climate gets 'erased' online
More than 5,000 entries tailored to hype global-warming agenda

A new report reveals a British scientist and Wikipedia administrator rewrote climate history, editing more than 5,000 unique articles in the online encyclopedia to cover traces of a medieval warming period – something Climategate scientists saw as a major roadblock in the effort to spread the global warming message.

Recently hacked e-mails from the University of East Anglia's Climate Research Unit expose a plot to eliminate the Medieval Warm Period, a 400-year era that began around A.D. 1000, the Financial Post's Lawrence Solomon reports.

The warming period is said to have improved agriculture and increased life spans, but scientists at the center of the Climategate e-mail scandal believed the era undermined their goal of spreading concern about global warming as it pertains to today's climate.

Solomon noted the warming period presented a dilemma long before the Climategate e-mail scandal.

A 1995 e-mail predating the recent Climate Research Unit scandal was sent to geophysicist David Deming. A major climate-change researcher told Deming, "We have to get rid of the Medieval Warm Period."

Some scientists later expressed concern about erasing the period.

Another case of revisionist history, tailored to fit the needs of the GW advocates. Their version of the scientific method consists of throwing out anything that does not fit neatly into their misguided theories. That include not only data, but rewriting 400 years of history to try to erase the Medieval Warming Period that occurred starting at around 1000CE.

For those that prefer REAL history, rather than GW revisionist lies, please refer to this link:
An excerpt follows:

Medieval Warm Period Rediscovered
Submitted by Doug L. Hoffman on Tue, 04/07/2009 - 12:38

A recent article in the journal Science has provided a new, detailed climate record for the Medieval Climate Anomaly (MCA), also know as the Medieval Warm Period. It was the most recent pre-industrial warm period, noted in Europe and elsewhere around the globe. The researchers present a 947-year-long multi-decadal North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO) reconstruction and find a persistent positive NAO during the MCA. The interesting thing is that the MCA had basically been removed from the climate record by Michael Mann's infamous “hockey stick” history graph that was adopted by the IPCC a decade ago.

More interesting, Trouet et al., based their work in part on a tree-ring–based drought reconstruction for Morocco (1049–2002) and a millennial-length speleothem-based precipitation proxy for Scotland (900–1993), a methodology similar to Mann's work. Unlike Mann, these researchers found significant climate warming during the MCA. According to the report: “The Morocco and Scotland reconstructions contain substantial multi-decadal variability that is characterized by antiphase oscillatory behavior over the last millennium.” Their reconstruction can be seen in the figure from the article seen below.

I suggest that those that are interested in the details, please peruse the link, as it provides charts and data that are quite interesting.
In concluding, the link concludes:

The bottom line? Once again the climate models used by the IPCC and other climate catastrophists are shown to be inaccurate, incomplete and not up to the job of predicting future climatic conditions.

posted on Dec, 21 2009 @ 09:33 PM
wow....orwell's here. we're living large. we have no names, we are nameless!

posted on Dec, 21 2009 @ 09:35 PM
Then they go on about how China squashes freedom of speech, criticize Japan for re-writing history, etc..


[edit on 21-12-2009 by mirageofdeceit]

posted on Dec, 21 2009 @ 09:38 PM
Hmmm. Apparently they WEREN'T taken out of context after all. It's amazing what people will do to convince us that the 5% of co2 that is caused by humans, a gas that makes up 9-26% of total greenhouse gasses, which themselves make up 1% of the atmosphere is going to destroy the planet.
5% of 17% is worth a lot these days.

posted on Dec, 21 2009 @ 09:41 PM
Thank you prof for the thread.

Listening to them spin this climategate email leak as nothing big on the msm is fun. They have admitted to altering data, silencing critics, and allowing no other side to confer or present facts. I'm not sure how that's a good thing in anyway.

posted on Dec, 21 2009 @ 10:32 PM
The link is bad but the site has plenty of good stuff to read.

second line.

posted on Dec, 21 2009 @ 10:40 PM
Wonder exactly how they planned to erase our memories? I know I studied about the warming period years ago. Would we all doubt our own memories if we couldn't prove something by finding references online?
And why do online references seem to trump actual books these days?

posted on Dec, 22 2009 @ 01:36 AM
flagged, this is ridiculous.

posted on Dec, 22 2009 @ 03:06 AM
“Hurricanes, floods, typhoons and droughts that were once all regarded as the acts of an invisible God are now revealed to be the visible acts of man,” Britain's Gordon Brown said.

Wow what's with this guy? Climate Change needs a Pearl Harbour moment

[edit on 22-12-2009 by star in a jar]

posted on Dec, 22 2009 @ 03:10 AM
was his name Winston Smith, did he work at the Ministry of Truth? I've heard about it before, read it somewhere?

•"And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed—if all records told the same tale—then the lie passed into history and became truth. 'Who controls the past' ran the Party slogan, 'controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.'"
- George Orwell, 1984, Book 1, Chapter 3

[edit on 22-12-2009 by woodwardjnr]

[edit on 22-12-2009 by woodwardjnr]

posted on Dec, 22 2009 @ 04:06 AM
No biggie just scientists thinking they are god again

posted on Dec, 22 2009 @ 04:08 AM
reply to post by mirageofdeceit

It is the ones who can be the most two faced who get further up the ladder in this world!

posted on Dec, 22 2009 @ 04:44 AM

Originally posted by eyeswilldeceive
reply to post by mirageofdeceit

It is the ones who can be the most two faced who get further up the ladder in this world!


also, I get very amazed by the people who blindly believe everything scientists say without question, just like religious people believe everything their religious leaders say (and that can be very easily abused, like we see recently)

sincerely, I hope the Climategate will open more 'gates' in science community, so people will open their eyes to the scientific manipulation of facts that has been going on for 100 years...

[edit on 22-12-2009 by donhuangenaro]

posted on Dec, 22 2009 @ 04:52 AM
In all viewpoints, left-right, religious-atheist etc etc there are extremists. Those who like to distort information to their own ends. Now you can be a moron and listen to these people or not.

NB Listening does not mean agreeing you could have an opposite viewpoint that listens as above! only dismissing the odd extremists and listening to reasonable people is the answer.

So re: connelly a person known for extreme viewpoints and incidentally had editorial privileges revoked for reasons NOT related to GW articles!!!!!!!!!!!! point to note for those who can think.

Next point: wikipedia is known to have it's problems due the method used to populate it i.e. anyone can! So nobody should use wikipedia as the definitive reference. Point to note for those who can think.

Finally : read some goddam scientific studies done by people who have qualifications in the subject matter. That means the medieval warming is well documented, understood and explained and DOES NOT detract from modern human induced global warming. I can understand the temptation to hide it though since most people won't take the time to read and understand instead they will "educate" themselves with the tabloid headlines "Medieval global warming not man made". Note how that headline is 100% accurate and yet worded in a way that implies modern warming is therefore not man made as well. But oh boy how dumb to believe the inference!

Aren't you skeptics ashamed of the current tactics employed? All this mud slinging in the hope that some of it sticks. It's disgusting and you should be ashamed.

Why can't you provide factual researched evidence?

posted on Dec, 22 2009 @ 04:58 AM
Well at least now we know there aint no weather control machine in hands of shadow governments. Otherwise they'd use, well... more convincing arguments to support their climate agenda.

As for the current developments regarding wiki pages - I can't have that as an evidence, since it's easy to pretend to be someone else on the inter webs.

posted on Dec, 22 2009 @ 05:01 AM

Originally posted by malcr

Why can't you provide factual researched evidence?

can't you read?

the evidence is been erased...

posted on Dec, 22 2009 @ 05:05 AM
This should make you wonder what else in history has been rewritten.

Only a matter of time now . . .

posted on Dec, 22 2009 @ 06:40 AM
are they going to ` rewrite ` the history of the middle ages ` micro ice age ` - the one that caused several famines and the abandonment of the viking bases in greenland / iceland ???


this article still refferences the medieval warm period as distinct period before the middle ages ` little ice age ` - go figure

eddited to repair hyperlink

[edit on 22-12-2009 by ignorant_ape]

posted on Dec, 22 2009 @ 06:48 AM
To better sell the idea of MMGW decision makers hired the PR company Hill and Knowlton. H&K designed in the 50s a campaign for the tobacco industry. Based on H&K's strategy, the tobacco industry counteracted scientific evidence, which linked smoking to lung cancer. H&K did also work for the International Monetary Fund, during the global financial crisis. The posted video is off topic, but it shows how this company uses lies to manipulate public opinion.

Hill & Knowlton - blatant lies disseminated as pretext to the Gulf War

So if next time someone uses the argument: “Global warming skeptics are deceived by a PR campaign, sponsored by energy giants”, please consider, that the opposite may although be true.

Links to Hill & Knowlton sourcewatch and their wikipedia article

[edit on 22-12-2009 by Drunkenshrew]

posted on Dec, 22 2009 @ 06:56 AM
Perhaps it's time to start asking 'what won't they do' to push their various agendas? It seems just about anything. When is enough.. enough?

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