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The Last Step in Destroying America...

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posted on Dec, 21 2009 @ 08:30 AM
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Here goes my final theory.

With all the talks of each "bubble" that has burst, I have a final, more prominent theory.

The Healthcare Bill is the last step in destroying America financially.

First you had the seemingly long, un-interrupted destruction of the Steel Industry.
Starting in the 1970's to present, the Steel Industry in America has been brought to its knee's and considered dead. Outsourcing to China, India, Mexico and even the Ukraine, this industry is no longer a vital role in this nations economy. It is common knowledge to most Americans that steel is no longer made in America. Well, extremely little, if any at all.

Next, take a breath, because it was quick:
The Housing, Auto, Clothing, Computer and Financial Industries, have been all blown-up, and then brought down to what seems like nothing. (in the past 10-15 years)
All of these industries have been outsourced to make cheaper, more "economical" goods to import and sell to the American (and global) public. We no longer produce the massive quantities of clothing, cars, and houses like we used to.

Prove me wrong.

We all read the threads, no need to re-post them, and we all see the consequences of these industries failing. Job loss, unemployment by the millions, and social disorder, have all been accredited to the unstable American economy.

So what's the last thing that needs to be destroyed? In my opinion...Health care.
The final step, in what seems to be the only industry surviving all this mess, is taking apart the insurance and Healthcare industry.

With all the posts regarding the late-night voting and "rush" to pass this new legislation, it seems it will be the final step into making America exactly what these people want. Government Controlled.

Why are they rushing legislation to late-night voting? Hmm...
So, in summary, I believe that this will be the last straw that broke the "camels" back. Everyone should pay attention to these things happening. It is going to be a rough ride.

I have a feeling I am not alone in these opinions.




posted on Dec, 21 2009 @ 08:47 AM
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One of the biggest problems with healthcare reform as it passed last night is that nobody will be happy with it.

Those that fully supported healthcare reform, from the start, wanted a public option. Period. They are not going to be happy.

Those that opposed healthcare reform due to cost considerations, are not going to be happy. Final bill ballooned to $1.1 TRILLION and left out almost half of what was included when it was only $869 billion.

Those that voted for Obama because they wanted wasteful spending cut and transparency in government won't be happy. The votes for passage were bought with outright contributions to three states -- Nebraska, Louisiana, and (I think) Vermont.

Those that voted for Obama because of his promises to remove / reduce the power of the lobbyists in DC aren't going to be happy at all. The lobbyists are the only ones that really won anything throughout this entire process.

I am in awe right now. How Obama managed to pass legislation that will draw ire from both his supporters and opposers, I'm not sure. But that takes talent.



posted on Dec, 21 2009 @ 08:52 AM
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And that, my friend, is a conspiracy!
There's more debt now than ever before, and this healthcare doesn't help, it adds to the problem.

So, going with my original theory, how else can you add up more debt?
(like we need ANY more...)

Health and Insurance Industry. The final step.



posted on Dec, 21 2009 @ 09:51 AM
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I noticed the stock market is up, with the Senates passing of the bill, but it looks like the dollar is taking a beating, So what the hell is going on with that?



posted on Dec, 21 2009 @ 09:51 AM
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Sure seems that way doesnt it.
Control of the money was taken, control of the railroads(demise)control of street cars(demise)control of textiles(demise)
control of agriculture(demise) control of steel(demise)control of manufature(demise) control of education(demise) control of auto(demise)



posted on Dec, 21 2009 @ 09:59 AM
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The step to one world currency is getting the whole world equal first. Monetary, health, property value, stock markets, and a few other things have all dropped and risen to make that happen. The future looks steady for the middle class which means that developing nations will have a chance... if their governments embrace democracy.



posted on Dec, 21 2009 @ 10:08 AM
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Middleclass is going to be the new word for slave. It's the middleclass that'll be footing the bill for this disaster.
With national health care soon to pass, I've said it before cap & tax will pass with out much of a fight.
What we have to hope for is to fence obama The Destroyer in in the 2010 elections stop him doing any more damage an slam on the brakes on the health care scam.



posted on Dec, 21 2009 @ 10:40 AM
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Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
reply to post by havok
 

I noticed the stock market is up, with the Senates passing of the bill, but it looks like the dollar is taking a beating, So what the hell is going on with that?


This is a good explanation on why current events are taking place.
The demise of the dollar, introduces a new "global" currency that I think will start right here in the USA.


Originally posted by HappilyEverAfter
 

Sure seems that way doesnt it.
Control of the money was taken, control of the railroads(demise)control of street cars(demise)control of textiles(demise)
control of agriculture(demise) control of steel(demise)control of manufature(demise) control of education(demise) control of auto(demise)


Systemic destruction from within. Exactly my point.



Originally posted by JJay55
The step to one world currency is getting the whole world equal first. Monetary, health, property value, stock markets, and a few other things have all dropped and risen to make that happen. The future looks steady for the middle class which means that developing nations will have a chance... if their governments embrace democracy.


This is what I'm talking about. Good to see we are on the same page!

Although I have a hard time believing the middle class is steady or stable?!


Originally posted by Chance321
Middleclass is going to be the new word for slave. It's the middleclass that'll be footing the bill for this disaster.
With national health care soon to pass, I've said it before cap & tax will pass with out much of a fight.
What we have to hope for is to fence obama The Destroyer in in the 2010 elections stop him doing any more damage an slam on the brakes on the health care scam.


Well, this might be a good thing, and it might not. I do believe the Dem's will be voted out in 2010. That's for sure.



posted on Dec, 21 2009 @ 11:32 AM
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It's not the final act, but it is a very big step.

Just wait until gas is $6 a gallon and you are being taxed for the air you breathe.



posted on Dec, 21 2009 @ 12:13 PM
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No argument here. It appears that America is truly shot in the a55, with or without passage of a healthcare bill. If it passes, it will be just so much worse.



posted on Dec, 21 2009 @ 06:57 PM
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I've been trying to wrap my mind around the alternative system that they will HAVE to go to, and they will have to go to one. This system relies on body count, thats one of the reasons its failing, it relies on new debt constantly. IF they kill off the population like some feel they will try, all of the empty homes, apartments, business' serve no purpose and would not withstand the extended vacancy to be habitable or useable. Tearing them down to build new requires another huge birth cycle and a manufacturing - production based economy like the 50's/60's. We're going to hit a reset point as a country "first". OR OR there has to be a big event a big push to enact the N.A.U. and "our' version of the Euro, and that move would be more of an empire puzzle piece put into play. The crisis, whatever the crisis will be, is NOT that far off.
The only other option that could be used with these goofballs is to PULL money out of circulation, alot of money.
Now mind you I'm thinking from their point of view, not what I would call good or normal, but from their position as long as theyre in the drivers seat.

Any thoughts?



posted on Dec, 21 2009 @ 10:21 PM
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Well, this should help things along. Un-freaking-believeable.
www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Dec, 21 2009 @ 10:31 PM
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reply to post by Chance321
 


heh. Thats nothing.

Did you know the owner of Facebook is a proud member American Socialist?



posted on Dec, 21 2009 @ 10:39 PM
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Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
reply to post by havok
 


I noticed the stock market is up, with the Senates passing of the bill, but it looks like the dollar is taking a beating, So what the hell is going on with that?


Likely something like this:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

The lobbyists and insiders are smelling the blood of the already ravaged carcass of what is left of struggling americans. They will make sure they drain the last drops, like the leeches they are. You are dead on OP. This is the final nail in the coffin.



posted on Dec, 21 2009 @ 10:48 PM
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Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet

I noticed the stock market is up, with the Senates passing of the bill, but it looks like the dollar is taking a beating, So what the hell is going on with that?


The amount of new debt created by the healthcare bill causes the dollar to be worth less. And for some reason nearly every time the dollar drops stocks rise. Youre basically buying a % of the company. If your dollar is worth less its going to cost you more of them for the same % of that company.

Of course this isnt always or the only reason for stocks to rise. But if the dollar goes down the market usually goes up.



posted on Dec, 21 2009 @ 11:18 PM
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You guys are silly.

You think anybody has authority over what you do with your body?

Nobody does.

Choices.



posted on Dec, 22 2009 @ 08:48 AM
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Originally posted by 12.21.12
You guys are silly.

You think anybody has authority over what you do with your body?

Nobody does.

Choices.


Very valid point. But, if they penalize you for NOT having insurance, which is how I take this bill to be, then you don't really have a choice. Which will be the downfall for alot of people.

I thought about this too: Food.
Create food shortages, and you can control the masses.


"Control oil and you control nations; control food and you control the people."Henry Kissinger—the front man for the Rockefeller dynasty.

Source

Everyone know where he sits....right? Ha! In the White House. Been there for years.

He isn't the only one to say something like this either.
There are some pretty EVIL people residing in that House as we speak.



posted on Dec, 22 2009 @ 08:51 AM
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Found these quotes too:


Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful!
This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence.
It is then that all peoples of the world will pledge
with world leaders to deliver them from this evil.
The one thing every man fears is the unknown.

When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government."

Henry Kissinger in an address to the Bilderbergers at
Evian, France, May 21, 1992.



"The common enemy of humanity is man.
In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the
idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill.
Allthese dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome.
The real enemy then, is humanity itself."

Richard Haass- Club of Rome

Source

I'm just spinning a web here. Wrap your mind around that.



[edit on 22-12-2009 by havok]



posted on Dec, 23 2009 @ 10:14 PM
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Food shortages would be a huge mistake for TPTB. Food is the (probably) one thing that will send people into the streets to riot. As long as they can keep taking rights and raising taxes the program moves forward, and people just won't get off their collective butts to stop it.



posted on Dec, 23 2009 @ 10:46 PM
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No one really can do much about it. I mean most the people you try to tell this too will think your talking crazy but they don't know what we know. And some organized effort would most likely be put down (a rebellion of some sort) and the real message its trying to convey (that the gov't is corrupt) will be outshined by a crazy rebellious group.
It would have to be more of a like a million man march that after they get their message across becomes rebellious as they're voices are trying to be muted. Metaphorically speaking.



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