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Originally posted by Kram09
reply to post by the_denv
Erm.....maybe you should read some history books.
Originally posted by OzWeatherman
If there was an award for making the most pathetic, unlogical, bias and or least historically accurate threads, this OP would win it hands down.
Obviously the OP's vision is seriously clouded by stuckup white middle class american ideologies combined with racial southern redneck social standards.
Really give up OP, maybe make a thread about stuff you actually know about. Might I suggest Lamchops Play Along, Sesame street and remedial english 101
Originally posted by Doc Velocity
Originally posted by magnetik
Doc Velocity No disrespect but , How are you full blooded American if your ancestors are from Europe ? 2 of my Great Grand Parents are full blood Americans as in Native to this land
Thank you for asking that question, magnetik, I really mean that. Now, I'm going to go through this one time, and I hope I don't have to repeat myself later.
First of all, I stated that my European ancestors repeatedly interbred with the Indians, which is the term I prefer over "Native American," and we've got so much native blood in my family, collected from the East Coast to the Gulf Coast to the American Southwest, we by God look like Indians, and we are tough like Indians, and we commune with the Earth like Indians, and we don't like other Indians, just like the real Indians do.
So, I'm more Indian than Fred Bear or Frank Waters, okay. And I'm a better hunter with a long bow than Fred Bear — I'll just put that out there for you archers. That qualifies me as Indian, for sure...
Originally posted by semperfoo
I wasnt going to respond till I read this post...Its ripe for the picking.
People like you make Iraq sound like it was some grand utopia before the evil mighty US invaded...when in fact, it was not. Saddam killed millions, and ruled with an iron fist. his people were far worse off under him, and his two sons. if you think otherwise, you are delusional, which given by the rest of your post, wouldnt be that far off of an accurate assessment.
Originally posted by the_grand_pooh-bah
I am blameless and owe nothing for it and I will not accept blame for it.
Originally posted by cenpuppie
Nice dialogue JohnnyCanuck. My question to you is why is that most foreigners (especially Canadians) seem to understand the systemic institution slavery created in America and its benefits for a certain group better than ACTUAL American citizens.
Originally posted by unicorn1
Tell me, where do we draw the line at blame? Should I perhaps go after the Italians because the Romans conquered Britain?
We need to address things in the present. Frankly I'm tired of the endless whining that invariable comes with the open hand. 'You owe us this because...' 'We are this way because...'. Like a young person growing up, cultures need eventually to take responsibility for themselves.
Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Moderators, what is going on!!!??? Why even allow for drivel like this to be posted?
Originally posted by Little One
ALL you you that refer to Native Americans as 'Indians' are JUST AS IGNORANT as any person that would use the words ni&&er - spick - jap or chink. EDUCATE YOURSELVES before you talk about us NATIVE AMERICANS! You dont even respect us enough to call us our proper names - instead some of you choose to stick 'Indian' on us and expect us not to give a damn... WELL IM DAMN SICK AND TIRED OF IT BEING OK HERE TO CALL A Native American AN INDIAN and that be ACCEPTABLE HERE!
WRONG!!!! Did I say this was wrong? ITS W R O N G!
Of course there is shame but our generations after violence should feel a sense of pity more than anything. There should be no debt, no apology, no forgiveness. That just leaves us all in a neverending cycle of dillusion and stagnation. The key is to study the past, analyze it, learn from it, and then practice what you learnt from it. Hopefully for the better but we are human afterall.....to apologize to a black man for my ancestors actions is to apologize for humanity's actions. I can't do that. We are who we are and the only thing we can do is try to better ourselves as a whole and move forward.
Originally posted by rizla
Originally posted by Chad_Thomas89
There is no debt. The history of mankind is based off someone killing someone, someone invading someone, someone destroying someone. It's just what we do. There's no changing it. No people or land is safe from the atrocities their ancestors have caused and to say their is a debt is naive. It's not the American way, it's the human way.
But their is shame. If their is no shame, the soul is dead.
Originally posted by Chad_Thomas89
There is no debt... to apologize to a black man for my ancestors actions is to apologize for humanity's actions. I can't do that. We are who we are and the only thing we can do is try to better ourselves as a whole and move forward.
Originally posted by gdeed
Yet the two big beefs about Americans are that they killed Indians and stole their land and they brought black slaves here. Baloney!
Millions of Chinese, Italians, Germans, Irish and people from every corner of the world came to America to escape tyranny in their own countries and to have a chance to make a life for themselves. They didn't kill or enslave anyone! So back off, all you haters of Americans!
Reparations are designed to dived and conquer America, and they are winning with deceit and baloney!
[edit on 20-12-2009 by gdeed]
Originally posted by Isanti_dacotah
It makes me sad that people can be so hatefull and uncaring about the GENOCIDE of human being's and actually try to defend the inhumane murderer's that carried out such evil deed's.