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Why masons are not evil

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posted on Dec, 20 2009 @ 05:37 AM
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I recently had a chance to sit down with a 32nd degree mason here in Winterhaven, FL, and discovered they are not evil, menihacle, or otherwise abusive to this world. they are a society that is completely centered around God, not "Satan". The reason why they use the bible for the first 3 steps of freemasonry is not to blaspheme it, its to bring it to true light, which is darkness inverted. If i ever had the chance I would Join the freemasons. All i have said in the past was propaganda from other people, who where uneducated about the society that is the masons. If you ever have a chance, talk with a mason, they are great people




posted on Dec, 20 2009 @ 05:47 AM
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and so says he!

As for "if I ever had the chance"? well what is stopping you? If you really wanted to join, how hard can it be?



posted on Dec, 20 2009 @ 06:07 AM
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My guess is if you got the chance to meet and talk to a 32nd Degree Mason about the heart of his beliefs, then you should have have no trouble becoming a member.... You completely made this story up.



posted on Dec, 20 2009 @ 06:14 AM
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Please provide some proof of this.

Now I do agree that not all Masons are evil but some certainly are and have tainted the reputation of the order forever. However I am having trouble believing that a 32nd degree Freemason would give an interview.

I find this very unlikely since Freemasons of that stature would not disclose the fact that they are a Freemason, and even if they did, they certainly would not disclose any information regarding the brotherhood.

Also please state who this person is since level 32 of Freemasonry indicates that it would almost certainly be someone very powerful and in the political/economic/financial public eye; hell the next, and highest level includes FDR, Blair and Bush to name a few; only the reigning Monarch of England is higher.

Or perhaps some Freemasonic misinformation.



posted on Dec, 20 2009 @ 06:23 AM
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why not just go join and then find out yourself?

mason membership is declining because its boring and lame.

so hurry up and join and boost those numbers or soon there wont be masons to talk about.



posted on Dec, 20 2009 @ 06:25 AM
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They are taught to deceive, so you where treated to this.



posted on Dec, 20 2009 @ 06:42 AM
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Masonry is a LOT more common than people think. Most politicians in Brazil are masons. My uncle is a Grand Master 33rd degree and one of the General Managers in one of our Companies is also a Grand Master, 33rd degree mason.

If you travel Brazil by car, when you enter almost every single one of our more than 5600 cities, you will see a Rottary Club sign right at the entrance. There is a city in the state of Rio de Janeiro, a small, historical city(I think it's Pirai) where masons mark the doors of their houses with the massonic symbol.

One of the first things I learned when I started studying the Illuminati is that you have to differentiate the Freemasonry from the usual local masonry from your city. Two very different things.

Now, the Catholic Church likes to depict them as satanists. But you have to read between the lines. They also called Paganism as evil. Some even say that the image of Satan was based on the Horned God of paganism. That's just the Church playing POLITICS. To spread christianism they had to remove paganism and thus treated is as evil. Masonry is spread all over and has its own power as an INSTITUTION, so the Church labels them as evil as well.

World is not Black and White. There is no such thing as Evil people and Good people. We are all capable of murder, for exemple. If I had to kill a bad guy to save my family, I would. Do I think the Illuminati are powerhungry people whose goals, if accomplished, will cause pain and suffering to most people? Yes. Do I think my uncle is part of it becuase he is a mason? No way. he will probably be among the ones suffering as well.

Heck, the Boy Scouts was created by a mason! And there are priests that accuse it as being a luciferian organisation dooming the souls of all the kids being part of it!




[edit on 20-12-2009 by henriquefd]



posted on Dec, 20 2009 @ 06:57 AM
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Personally I have complete trust in the Masonic Lodge ... that's based upon my Rainbow years being a second generational member.



posted on Dec, 20 2009 @ 07:14 AM
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america the nation is not evil either, and im sure if you talked to a citizen they would leave you with a feeling of goodness; america as a society is still responsible for depleted uranium in iraq, lax israel sanctions leading to support for its actions in gaza,and many atrocities on its peoples rights.



posted on Dec, 20 2009 @ 12:36 PM
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Originally posted by mpgore2004
Also please state who this person is since level 32 of Freemasonry indicates that it would almost certainly be someone very powerful and in the political/economic/financial public eye; hell the next, and highest level includes FDR, Blair and Bush to name a few; only the reigning Monarch of England is higher.


You can receive the 4th through 32nd degrees in one weekend if you are so inclined, there is nothing exclusive about it.



posted on Dec, 20 2009 @ 04:02 PM
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Originally posted by mpgore2004
Please provide some proof of this.

Now I do agree that not all Masons are evil but some certainly are and have tainted the reputation of the order forever. However I am having trouble believing that a 32nd degree Freemason would give an interview.

I find this very unlikely since Freemasons of that stature would not disclose the fact that they are a Freemason, and even if they did, they certainly would not disclose any information regarding the brotherhood.

Also please state who this person is since level 32 of Freemasonry indicates that it would almost certainly be someone very powerful and in the political/economic/financial public eye; hell the next, and highest level includes FDR, Blair and Bush to name a few; only the reigning Monarch of England is higher.

Or perhaps some Freemasonic misinformation.


I'm a 32nd degree mason and so are tons of other masons on this board. Its not some like "secret hidden degree". As Augustus said you can get 4th through 32nd degrees in one weekend on a "retreat" type thing.

[edit on 20-12-2009 by jeasahtheseer]



posted on Dec, 20 2009 @ 04:02 PM
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double post, sorry.



[edit on 20-12-2009 by jeasahtheseer]



posted on Dec, 20 2009 @ 09:11 PM
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you are free to treat anyone the way you feel not the way they desire to be felt; if you are not and can only treat others as they desire;you are not free but a slave to their whims.

who are you to say someone is this or that:cause if masonry choose not to be secret and you choose to hate me for what i believe and practice; its not evil for me to then kill you to maintain my own rights and freedoms.so you really cant say this or that about who you met; cause there are supposedly many different individual thoughts within masonry:and your expressing your own based off of meeting someone who knows someone.

so i ask, is my actions that differ from society at large:'s actions evil?you find weed smokers dopes?you find people who pay a woman sex for unethical?

if its a secret society then how can you call it anything good or bad if you are not privy to its actions.and if these actions are alien to what you are adjusted to?



posted on Dec, 22 2009 @ 07:18 PM
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Originally posted by jeasahtheseer

Originally posted by mpgore2004
Please provide some proof of this.

Now I do agree that not all Masons are evil but some certainly are and have tainted the reputation of the order forever. However I am having trouble believing that a 32nd degree Freemason would give an interview.

I find this very unlikely since Freemasons of that stature would not disclose the fact that they are a Freemason, and even if they did, they certainly would not disclose any information regarding the brotherhood.

Also please state who this person is since level 32 of Freemasonry indicates that it would almost certainly be someone very powerful and in the political/economic/financial public eye; hell the next, and highest level includes FDR, Blair and Bush to name a few; only the reigning Monarch of England is higher.

Or perhaps some Freemasonic misinformation.


I'm a 32nd degree mason and so are tons of other masons on this board. Its not some like "secret hidden degree". As Augustus said you can get 4th through 32nd degrees in one weekend on a "retreat" type thing.

[edit on 20-12-2009 by jeasahtheseer]

Take your BS somewhere else. Why would you put retreat in quotes if you are supposed to be such a high ranking member? "Some retreat thing, I don't know much about it." Well you should, unless you are lying, which I guarantee you are. GO AWAY.



posted on Dec, 22 2009 @ 08:56 PM
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I thought the Bush's weren't Masons.
And I could've sworn that the Skull & Bones were at serious odds with the Masons, some kind of fraternity vs. fraternity rumble.



posted on Dec, 22 2009 @ 08:57 PM
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Originally posted by Matthew Dark
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I thought the Bush's weren't Masons.
And I could've sworn that the Skull & Bones were at serious odds with the Masons, some kind of fraternity vs. fraternity rumble.

Well I guess you were just ignorant. The Masons aren't even a fraternity, now you are just reaching into a hat and pulling out excuses.



posted on Dec, 22 2009 @ 09:18 PM
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Wow, resorting to name-calling so quickly...classy.
Now, since you're so worldly, why don't you explain to me how the Masons aren't a fraternity.
I'm pretty sure, nay, positive, that they're the world's oldest continuing fraternity.
And what is this hat you speak of that I'm reaching into?
I don't even own a hat.
And on that matter, for what reason am I making excuses and what excuses am I actually making?
I was merely stating information that I...happened...across.



posted on Dec, 22 2009 @ 09:33 PM
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Originally posted by Bananarama
The Masons aren't even a fraternity


Are you joking?

Feeemasonry is the oldest and most well-established fraternity in the freaking WORLD, mate. Freemasonry is the template from which almost all other major fraternities have been historically derived.

You are obviously so totally and utterly unqualified to comment on this topic that it's not even funny. Maybe check out the Cryptozoology forum instead.



posted on Dec, 22 2009 @ 09:38 PM
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Ignorance is taking over the forums.... how incompetent and negligent are some idiots on this forum.... Pardon me, but it just boggles my mind as to how some *SNIP* are so mis-informed they will believe their own OPINION rather than true fact. It disgusts me!

Great post OP, I completely agree. Perhaps some members on this forum should do some research about the true nature and history about freemasonry.



posted on Dec, 22 2009 @ 10:15 PM
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I'm wondering if some people are just so paranoid, that they're trying to pick fights and 'out' some of you Mason boys.
I guess everyone needs an adversary, and for some, it's that age-old, faceless old boy fraternity...
Like I've said time after time, I've known quite a few Masons, and they're good men all of them.



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