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Soldier risks all to tell of secret military UFO unit

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posted on Dec, 19 2009 @ 04:17 PM
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Some interesting reading about UFOs,Nellis Air Force Base and the C.S.S.P - does anyone out there know any further info about the school or help substantiate this soldiers comments?



Nellis AFB UFO training school




Let us see how much trouble this post can get me in… maybe end up in jail for supposed breach of NDA (Non-disclosure Agreement), but when the government on both sides is a fraud, it holds no legal bearing, so let them come!

Most who read (about me) know my military background, for those that don’t, it is rather long and involved. You can reach my military record by reading my post “Open Apology.”

In 1996- 97, I was with the I Corps Long Range Surveillance unit at Ft. Lewis, WA. In Oct-Nov of that year, we were engaged in real world operations in support of JTF-6 (Joint Task Force 6), a cooperative program between the military, police, and U.S. Border Patrol to stop the influx of illegal immigrants and narcotics flow into the United States…. yes, your government’s scariest idiots are on the border, and have been for a great deal of time.

While on one of these missions, my team and I were engaged and tracked by what were suspected narcotics traffickers. Least to say, we all considered ourselves goners.

As a result of bonds that are built through those circumstances, you have a tendency to trust those you are with more than anybody else. Now, that being said, I certainly didn’t believe it when I first heard it, but this information comes from individuals I would no less entrust the lives of my children to.

On our second mission, after the incident of the first, we were in our sites along a canal, looking up at the stars, and talking about the death that almost came the previous mission. One of the men assigned to the team, as a result of the experience, decided he didn’t want to go to the grave knowing what he knew and no one else.

He proceeded to explain to us the fact that the government had a school at Nellis AFB that dealt with UFOs, interplanetary invasion, and what forces are to do, and where they are to go, on the planet… to regroup. He said that they were told that under no circumstances were they to reveal the information they were told, and that aliens in fact had been visiting the planet for thousands of years.

Now here comes the crux, the name of the school is acronym C.S.S.P. (Combined Services Support Program) operating under the guise of a type of ALP (Air Load Planners) course, if they wanted to teach cross loading, they would just send you to the ALP course, and not have another, hence, what sent up the red flag for me!

After my injuries, and before separation, I was made the A Brigade School’s NCO for the one brigade of the 25th Infantry Division at Ft. Lewis. Just because I was curious, I looked up the school in the Brigade Schools Manuals and to my surprise, the school is listed, but it is classified. This is where I came into the definitive know about the nature of the school.

According to the manual (which coincidentally, no description of course is given), each brigade, according to policy, is supposed to have at least two individuals qualified in the course. They must be in the pay-grades between E-5 and E-7, or O-1 to O-3, but not above. Was later told this was due to the supposed inability of those in older age ranges to grasp the concept of alien life (again, the first movie I ever saw was Star Wars), made sense.

Now, you can make of it what you will, hopefully this adds to a piece of the puzzle fix, and highly suggest that this be investigated. I am taking a risk mentioning it, but after the failure of the newest administration to take action like they were forewarned, I must make my own strides. I worked, and will remain loyal, to the people of this nation, and the human race. Disclosure is not an option, it is a requirement.

Investigate CSSP (coined Can’t Say Sh** Pal) by those in the know, wish me luck with Uncle Sammie, I may need it after this.

www....(nolink)/nellis-afb-ufo-training-school/
ufoclearinghouse.webs.com...


Cheers.


[edit on 02/10/08 by karl 12]




posted on Dec, 19 2009 @ 04:23 PM
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any know on how to apply, E5 ATC. Joint Tasked?



posted on Dec, 19 2009 @ 04:26 PM
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This is a great story, because we should be able to get it either quickly substantiated or quickly debunked. Come on Chair Force ATS'ers, represent!



posted on Dec, 19 2009 @ 04:35 PM
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Can't seem to find anything officially damning on official channels in regards to the class in question, but I ran across this.

LINK

This is the guy who supposedly initiated the story. *shrug*



posted on Dec, 19 2009 @ 04:35 PM
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Being close to the USAF for a long time now and knowing people stationed at Nellis in the past and presently, IMO, there is nothing believable about it this story at all. No real info provided.

He (note: anonymous no proof this person is even in military) offers no substantial information.

Sounds like a fabricated story with no real info provided so the person doesnt get caught making stuff up. IMO.

Very vague, leaves more questions than answers - most certainly not a whistleblower.

[edit on December 19th 2009 by greeneyedleo]



posted on Dec, 19 2009 @ 04:47 PM
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No offence, but Many people know people who work in the military. They know that the majority of what they do is classified, and they know that if they told them. they would both be in trouble.

Most people in the air force wont work on anything classified, maybe aircraft with has classified technology...

and these people are highly unlikely to risk their jobs and prison time, just to tell a good story. in extreme cases, be killed(car accident, awol, robbery gone wrong...suicide by tieing head to tree, on golf course. getting in car and speeding off...)



posted on Dec, 19 2009 @ 04:49 PM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Dec, 19 2009 @ 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by MR BOB
reply to post by greeneyedleo
 


No offence, but Many people know people who work in the military. They know that the majority of what they do is classified, and they know that if they told them. they would both be in trouble.

Most people in the air force wont work on anything classified, maybe aircraft with has classified technology...

and these people are highly unlikely to risk their jobs and prison time, just to tell a good story. in extreme cases, be killed(car accident, awol, robbery gone wrong...suicide by tieing head to tree, on golf course. getting in car and speeding off...)


No offense taken. I voiced my opinion that I dont find anything believable about the story nor nothing to really sink one's teeth into.

And I dont just know people in the military. Ive lived on USAF bases for the past 7years of my life.




posted on Dec, 19 2009 @ 04:55 PM
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He proceeded to explain to us the fact that the government had a school at Nellis AFB that dealt with UFOs, interplanetary invasion, and what forces are to do, and where they are to go, on the planet… to regroup. He said that they were told that under no circumstances were they to reveal the information they were told, and that aliens in fact had been visiting the planet for thousands of years.


I wonder whose plan this benefits. Humanity, or the Illuminated Elite?

For all we know maybe the otherworlders are coming to free us and the Elites, of course don't want this and want their forces to fight off the otherworlders off


I fail to see how we can fight off these Aliens if in fact they are malevolent.



posted on Dec, 19 2009 @ 05:13 PM
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Would he be willing to take a lie detector test?



posted on Dec, 19 2009 @ 06:29 PM
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He may be right but not all the way. I do believe that they do school CERTAIN personnel about alien craft, but they tell them part of the story. Then the higher ups are told the full one about our history on this planet. Then commanders of each Air base are briefed about alien craft under extreme secrecy and are told what to do and what procedures you need to do in case of this or that. But I don't believe that their is a single place and a school where they train people on a regular basis. The problem is that the more people that know in anything, the more variability there is to the secrecy and more odds that somebody will actually tell and/or give very very pertinent information that could lead to the discovery of the program. By controlling training to certain individuals and higher ups, it makes it possible for them to still control somewhat the secrecy. So lets say a UFO crashes outside a base or flies into a base and lands, the base commander is notified about some weird craft and he follows procedure per secret orders to UFO's. Then he commands his staff and others to do things in order to keep it hidden or whatever is needed to get it under our control until a specialized team gets their. This team would be one trained in recovery of UFO material and personnel.



posted on Dec, 19 2009 @ 07:11 PM
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Thanks for sharing this intriguing story Karl.


Unfortunately in cases like these, based on only hear-say it is extremely difficult, if not impossible to verify. I mean it is not like you can simply Google it and get the official US government "UFO School" homepage. Sure you can look anything mentioning "CSSP", but what is that going to tell you? IMHO, it would be way more trouble than it would be worth to attempt to verify this story, mainly because there is nothing you are going to be able to find that would verify anything, unless some "whistleblower" provides credible documentation to verify the claims.

Interesting report none-the-less, thanks again for posting.



posted on Dec, 19 2009 @ 08:51 PM
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This quote bothers me -

"Was later told this was due to the supposed inability of those in older age ranges to grasp the concept of alien life."

What is so hard about grasping the concept of alien life, regardless of ones age?



posted on Dec, 19 2009 @ 09:17 PM
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I get the feeling they are threatening to blow earth up if newcomer ETs interfere with the status quo down here



posted on Dec, 19 2009 @ 10:07 PM
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Originally posted by Chuck C
This quote bothers me -

"Was later told this was due to the supposed inability of those in older age ranges to grasp the concept of alien life."

What is so hard about grasping the concept of alien life, regardless of ones age?


It has something to do with religion amongst other things for some old folks. The presence of something like that would crumble their whole world and beliefs.

I think that's what he means.



posted on Dec, 19 2009 @ 11:56 PM
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If it is too good to be true....

On the following blog:

ufoview.posterous.com...

Larry Bryant has posted almost the very same thing under his own name on June 5th.

Also at this forum on June 4th:

ufomagazine.forumotion.com... by a guy called Dennis J. Wisnosky Jr

Here's the full article: www.aliensthetruth.com...



The only thing I ask, if I get whacked or die in any way before the age of 65, please, for me, and those that have died for you, scream FOUL as loud as you can. Regardless of the repercussions, come out of the shadows and don't be scared, use your true names and tell your stories. Shout them as loud as you can, or else our goal will never be realized, and my children, as well as yours will never be FREE!

LOL, please print this and tuck it away should I ever disappear or have an accident. I'm serious




This is from his Myspace blog:



I spent eight years in the United States Army as a Pathfinder and forward recon making me a aircraft and armor recognition specialist. I also am trained and have the chosen profession of the practice of law in support of the veterans of this great country.

On June 23, 2008 over Abingdon, VA at 10:08 PM, I witnessed a siting that in no way shape or form was Human. Over a one hour time period, I with multiple other witnesses, viewed one tube craft roughly 50 ft larger than a CH - 47 Chinook helicopter, two rectangles larger than football fields, and the last, leading me to the conclusion they are not ours, a Foo fighter like those described by the WW II aircraft crews roughly 25 to 30 meters in diameter.


[edit on 20-12-2009 by phrankie79]



posted on Dec, 20 2009 @ 12:41 AM
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I find this story quite intreasting and believe it to be real.This is my opinon as to why i believe it to be real.If the goverment knew the aliens that well and trusted them they would not need to train people about aliens and alien invasion at all.They would know these aliens would not suddenly up and turn on them at a momemts notice.The aliens do not need to invade earth anyway,they control the world anyway.What we have here is something different.We are not talking about the same aliens.With the aliens we are working with now we may trust them.What if another compleatly different aliens species decides to invade earth.This is proberly what the training is all about.I don't think for a minute the aliens invaders are after us to kill.They might invade earth searching out the reptillian or little gray aliens to kill.I would put my money on the reptillians.They might think they are in charge now but any time another more powerful alien race could turn up on our door looking for them.Some evil aliens would stop at nothing to get to the reptillians.If humans got in the way they would try to wipe us out too.You might say we would be the meat in the sandwitch.Of course some humans may join the evil alien side to fight the reptillians and some humans may join the reptillian side to fight the evil aliens.What side would you fight on?



posted on Dec, 20 2009 @ 12:48 AM
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Originally posted by karl 12
He proceeded to explain to us the fact that the government had a school at Nellis AFB that dealt with UFOs, interplanetary invasion, and what forces are to do, and where they are to go, on the planet… to regroup.


What is the plan? It would seem if we knew the details, it would go a long way in verifying the story. Members with military experience/knowledge would be able to tell us if it is in keeping with military protocol and procedures.



posted on Dec, 20 2009 @ 12:56 AM
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Im not saying this post isn't authentic. What I will say though is that anyone that has been in the military more then a min, KNOWS there is Zero privacy and If one person knows somthing within 20 min everyone does. I have spent over 4 1/2 years in the same BN and I can assure you that I have NEVER heard of anyone recieving this training.... EVER. Never even heard of it. SOOOOO going with my theory that everyone in the army has a big freakin mouth, I know this would have gotten around if somone would have. Dosn't fail. Sorry wish I could validate this but it kinda sounds like shinanigans.



posted on Dec, 20 2009 @ 06:34 AM
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Thanks for the replies.

It certainly is an interesting story although I do realise it is unsubstantiated and you do have to take these kind of accounts with a pinch of salt (a big one it looks like in this case).
I did find the remark about the USAF saying that 'aliens have been visiting the planet for thousands of years' interesting though - in the USAF Academy Textbook "Introductory Space science - Volume II, Department of Physics, Chapter XIII" it does make some very intriguing (and surprisingly non-dismissive) statements about the UFO subject - it also stresses the importance of students keeping an balanced,open mind on the subject.




33.6 CONCLUSION

From available information, the UFO phenomenon appears to have been global in nature for almost 50,000 years. The majority of known witnesses have been reliable people who have seen easily-explained natural phenomena, and there appears to be no overall possitive correlation with population density. The entire phenomenon could be psychological in nature but that is quite doubtful. However, psychological factors probably do enter the data picture as "noise." The phenomenon could also be entirely due to known and unknown phenomena (with some psychological "noise" added in) but that too is questionable in view of some of the available data.

This leaves us with the unpleasant possibility of alien visitors to our planet, or at least of alien controlled UFO's. However, the data are not well correlated, and what questionable data there are suggest the existence of at least three and maybe four differnet groups of aliens (possibly at different states of development). This too is difficult to accept. It implies the existence of intelligent life on a majority of the planets in our solar system, or a surprisingly strong interest in Earth by members of other solar systems.

A solution to the UFO problem may be obtained by the long and diligent effort of a large group of well financed and competent scientists, unfortunately there is no evidence suggesting that such an effort is going to be made. However, even if such an effort were made, there is no guarantee of success because of the isolated and sporatic nature of the sightings. Also, there may be nothing to find, and that would mean a long search with no profit at the end. The best thing to do is to keep an open and skeptical mind, and not take an extreme position on any side of the question.

www.abovetopsecret.com...


Cheers.



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