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Iran rejects reports of Iraqi oil well seizure as attempt to harm ties

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posted on Dec, 19 2009 @ 05:29 PM
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Originally posted by kwisatz
Its patently obvious Israel are now ready to move and are simply preparing the groundwork .
heads up guys , it`s here .





Oh brother.

Yeah it's patently obvious people spend way too much time on conspiracy sites.




posted on Dec, 19 2009 @ 05:40 PM
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Originally posted by Mek-Tech

Originally posted by kwisatz
Its patently obvious Israel are now ready to move and are simply preparing the groundwork .
heads up guys , it`s here .





Oh brother.

Yeah it's patently obvious people spend way too much time on conspiracy sites.

Get back to me on that one in ohhhhhhh say 30 days ..



posted on Dec, 20 2009 @ 09:39 AM
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I really don't see the issue here, seriously.

If Iran claims they are not Iranians who took over the well, then snipe all of em and go back to normal.

Since they are not Iranian's, they, of course, won't care if they are headshot and dipped in pigs blood.

See, problem over and no war was needed to end it.

Simple.



posted on Dec, 20 2009 @ 11:09 AM
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It was an Iranian flag that was raised. Hence, it is a pretty safe assumption that they are either Iranians or posing as Iranians.

However, according to this, the Iranian soldiers have already removed themselves from the oil field claiming a "misunderstanding" regarding the border.


Iranian troops have withdrawn partially from a disputed oil well in the border region with Iraq, the Iraqi government has said.

Ali al-Dabbagh, a government spokesman, said that a group of Iranian troops who had allegedly seized control of the well last week had pulled back in the early hours of Sunday morning.

"The Iranian flag has been lowered," Dabbagh told Al Jazeera. "The Iranian troops have pulled back 50 metres, but they have not gone back to where they were before."


Link: english.aljazeera.net...



posted on Dec, 20 2009 @ 12:40 PM
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So Iran claims their troops didn't seize the oil well, and nor Iraq claims they didn't either!

www.abc.net.au...

Now the story is that Iraq is massing troops along the border because of the mini Iranian invasion.

Kinda reminds me of the fictitious story about Iraq massing it's troops and armour along the Saudi border before the first Gulf War. Something else that was completely fictitious, yet was used as part of the propaganda to try and sell us all on the invasion.

Looks like someone, somewhere, is planting stories to try and escalate things a bit!



posted on Dec, 20 2009 @ 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
When Iran defended itself in a 10 year long bloody war instigated against it by Iraq that resulted in millions of casualties on both sides it was fought year after year with hundreds of thousands of men manning trenches on both sides of the front line, not a dozen men attempting to wage a war against a nation of tens upon tens of millions of people.


Why not stick to facts instead of fantasy Proty. In 1980 Iraq did invade Iran over a number of issues including border disputes and an attempt to take advantage of Iran's instability as well as Saddam's fear of a Shiite revolution spreading. By early 1982 Iraqi forces were repelled, Saddam conceded defeat. The West, Iraq, the Saudis offered Iran reparations to the tune of 60 billion or so.

Iran rejected any settlements, and decided it was time to launch their declared Holy War starting with a conquest of Iraq and moving West to Israel, Saudi Arabia, an onward. 6 years later, after a million deaths including tens of thousands of Iranian boys sent into battlefield, Iran decided it wasn't such a good idea.


Iran’s oil infrastructure is so crippled they can’t even produce enough oil to keep from having to import gasoline for domestic consumption. In part that’s why they desire nuclear energy. Decades of sanctions and trade restrictions have left their own oil infrastructure in little better shape than the Iraqis.


None of this is true. Iran produces more than sufficient oil for itself and as a major exporter. The Revolutionary Guard control or own private oil refineries outside Iran. So crude oil is channeled out the country and unnecessarily bought back as gasoline and other derivates by the central government.
This puts the country at great risk as they would lose a war within a week due to lack of fuel for tanks, planes, domestic cosumption

The oil infrastructure and other problems Iran faces are due to chronic bad management. The Ayatollahs failed to maintain and upgrade vital equipment, finance exploration, and prioritize their most vital source of revenue. Everything needs replacing now.

The cost of investment in domestic nuclear energy is far greater than what it would cost Iran if they just used their own refined oil derivatives.

Self-serving economic policies dictated by the Revolutionary Guard, opportunism by the likes of Rafsanjani and the new clerical eite, along with a huge non-productive military budget and sponsorships of external hostile programs have been pushing Iran towards almost inevitable economic collapse.



[edit on 20-12-2009 by mmiichael]



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