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Urgent message to ATSers... I think I've discovered the location of our next false flag.

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posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 10:43 PM
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If you guys are aware of some of my previous threads... I have been calling for a Hollywood conspiracy forum for some time now.

Every big budget movie that is produced these days is filled with Masonic symbolism, Occult images, or a way to Desensitize the public for upcoming events.

Well, I'm not going to to presume I know for fact that this will happen in the future... But from what I've gathered from certain films in the post 9/11 world... It appears that NY will suffer another attack.

If you do not believe that the entertainment industry is a form of... how do I say this?... mind control, then please do not post here to make insults.

Let's start with Desensitization Examples...




The 2007 film I Am Legend shows the Brooklyn and Manhattan Bridges with their center spans destroyed. A flashback reveals they were hit by missiles to stop the exodus from a quarantined Manhattan.


Now you might say... so what it's just one movie?

Let's also remember that this film had numerous images of Quarantine, and troops on the streets.




The bridge is seen in the background of the movie Cloverfield as the monster attacks and destroys the Brooklyn Bridge. The character Hud later suggests to Rob that they try to leave Manhattan by the Manhattan Bridge.


This right here is a classic example of Desensitization... The movie makes you feel as if you are filming the situation of Chaos in NY city.

If the next false flag happens on those two bridges you might have a feeling as if you had seen that before... as if you know what it would feel like to be on that bridge when it's destroyed.

And let's not forget the images of military on the NY streets once again.

Let's move on to the next film which inspired me to make this thread in the first place.




I have never seen a movie with as many secret codes, Numbers, and subliminal images in this film my entire life... I believe this movie was made to pass information about dates/ times/ and locations of when the plan will go into effect.

*Also note that the movie ends with John Travolta (scientologist just like Will Smith) on the Manhattan Bridge.

Everywhere you look there is a number, or subliminal in the background.





Look, I know alot of people are going to just take this thread with a grain of salt... So let me remind you guys of a certain fact...


The 2003 plot
In 2003, truck driver Iyman Faris was sentenced to about 20 years in prison for providing material support to Al-Qaeda, after an earlier plot to destroy the bridge by cutting through its support wires with blowtorches was thwarted through information the National Security Agency uncovered through wiretapped phone conversations and interrogation of Al-Qaeda militants.[31]


en.wikipedia.org...





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posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 10:47 PM
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i always thought the industry used new york since it has the highest population (for a city) out of the states, and is known around the world.

sort of a mass appeal thing.



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 10:49 PM
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"In a time when the world is at unease, a small terrorist network is planning their next big example of destruction. Just outside of Rochester, MN a plot is hatching to......"

NYC just plays a little better, especially in worldwide release.



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 10:53 PM
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Every big budget movie that is produced these days is filled with Masonic symbolism, Occult images, or a way to Desensitize the public for upcoming events.



It could be the opposite...


I mean, if we are gonna go down this road, let's look at all avenues...how 'bout TPTB follow up a big blockbuster with a similar event - meaning, a big film comes out with moments of chaos that TPTB mimic.

This way there is no trail to follow - hollywoods imagination is the unknowing culprit...





posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 10:54 PM
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cool.

keep it up.


i dont see many of these films,
but i am always interested in the occult.
ive seen other connections to hollywood things before that really intrigued me.
hope you keep it up. thanks.
Peace



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 10:54 PM
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I can't say I subscribe to this theory, ....


However I wanted to point out that your first example was a Will Smith movie, ..... and pre 9/11 he came out with a movie called " Enemy of The State" with Gene Hackman, .... anyway, in the movie he has to punch in a code, and the director made it a special point to show it up close and make it stand out, .....

The Number you ask ???? 911



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 11:25 PM
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I liked 'I am Legend' quite a bit. The movie partially convinced me to get a German Shepherd Dog. She's a great dog--thanks the powers that be!


Best,
Skunknuts



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 11:29 PM
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New movies use masonic/occult symbolism because of the Dan Brown effect. If the DaVinci Code had never come out I don't think you would see as much of it. (I thought the book sucked so I personally don't know why you see any of it).

But nevertheless, people dig symbolic numbers etc because it lets them see connections and meaning where there is none, even if it is subconcious.

I think the disaster movies target New York because it is the city that the most English-speaking audience can identify with. If we were shooting a Chinese movie I'm sure it would be Bejing or Shinghai. Spanish movie- Mexico City or Denver. Arabic movie- Baghdad or Dearborn.

In my opinion there is no false-flag connection, other than the fact that a city like New York would be an obvious target for a false-flag attack.



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 11:32 PM
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Originally posted by happygolucky

This way there is no trail to follow - hollywoods imagination is the unknowing culprit...




OR - the KNOWING culprit....



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 11:35 PM
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Originally posted by skunknuts
I liked 'I am Legend' quite a bit. The movie partially convinced me to get a German Shepherd Dog. She's a great dog--thanks the powers that be!


Best,
Skunknuts


You should read the book. The movie skipped over the entire concept the author was trying to convey.

And German Shepards are great. I have two- Marx and Engels. Funny I named them back in college, before I started paying taxes and such and discovered what a horrible idea socialism is. They speak German though!



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 11:37 PM
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I don't know about the movies, but holding a trail there sure sets up rational for something big to happen there.
Here is hoping nobody lives there that I like



posted on Dec, 19 2009 @ 12:15 AM
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Hey, remember on 9-11, when building 7 was on fire at 920 in the morning, and people heard bombs going off, and that big x in the ground,the fire fighters were talking about that probably came from bombs in the basement or something.
and....
do you remember when those two trucks with israeli agents were pulled over, and their G.O.D. moving vans tested positive for explosives, and then they were deported.

They were pulled over on the bridge, one going in, and one going out.

Maybe that's what all the symbolism is about.
I mean if those G.O.D. moving vans had had explosives in them then the bridge would look like that.

Just a thought.....



posted on Dec, 19 2009 @ 12:52 AM
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We get a global pandemic of some kind usually around once or twice per century so fiction based on pandemic outbreaks is, well - to be expected is the best way I can put it.

Terrorism is based on a certain set of well used tactics and a growing set of "improvised warfare" incidents such as 9/11. There are basic characteristics involved in such incidents which will involve certain commonalities -

Since the goal of the terrorists is to create as much fear and as many casualties as possible using limited resources the incidents have usually involved large cities where the pool of victims is higher and more closely spaced, mass transit, office buildings, restaurants, shopping malls and so on.

The most effective methods use explosives, either traditional or improvised.

We have a proven history of past incidents and planned future ones using chemical, biological and radioactive agents which can create even more casualties and fear.

I know Alex Jones and a few others started this popular belief that media is used to "pre-sell" the public on false flag events but if you think about it the potential pool of methods and locations is somewhat limited. Any book, movie or TV show using terrorism as the subject will be pulling from that same limited set of potentials. While the odds are that future acts of terrorism will be found to match a past work of fiction I have yet to see any convincing proof pointing towards a conspiracy.

(An insider passing "ideas" on to screen writers is not what I consider to be a "conspiracy").

I've always found the possibility of real terrorists performing real acts of terror "enabled" by the political power structures to be far more realistic than a full blown "false flag" scenario.

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posted on Dec, 19 2009 @ 01:06 AM
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I've noticed that in the movies we often see the Eiffel Tower getting destroyed in some form. When the destruction is in America, it's usually the Statue of Liberty that goes down first, I think its just due to them being more iconic than anything.

I don't really understand the desensitization you claim, I guess I am desensitized enough that anything that happens in movies wouldn't shock me.. but it would be entirely different in a real life scenario. But maybe that wasn't what you meant.

When you are talking about the occult symbols, do you mean obvious use like in Angels & Demons, National Treasure, etc. or subtle/subliminal images appearing unrelated to the movie? I'm really interested in seeing some examples of it.

Thanks



posted on Dec, 19 2009 @ 01:32 AM
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This is a link to one of many short films on youtube that shows excellent symbolism in movies. Notice all these movies came out before 9-11 so if we look at movies made since and before 9-11 we may find clues to the next false flag. These symbols seem to me to be unrelated to the context of the film and are hard to spot if you are not looking.

www.youtube.com...



posted on Dec, 19 2009 @ 01:32 AM
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This is a link to one of many short films on youtube that shows excellent symbolism in movies. Notice all these movies came out before 9-11 so if we look at movies made since and before 9-11 we may find clues to the next false flag. These symbols seem to me to be unrelated to the context of the film and are hard to spot if you are not looking.

www.youtube.com...



posted on Dec, 19 2009 @ 01:52 AM
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New York City houses The United Nations, is multicultural, and incorporates many of the worlds largest banks (which we paid for).
If you read Chapter 18 of Revelation, it's clear that Mystery Babylon the Great is an actual city – it's a city that does big business (including ocean shipping), and is guilty of sexual immorality, and false religions – the label Whore of Babylon likely applies to numerous false gods / religions (not just one false god / religion).
Is the statue of liberty the great represent the whore in the water?Revelation 17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, "Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters: 2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication."
Revelation 17:15-18 - "...the waters you saw, where the prostitute was seated are peoples, multitudes, nations, and languages. The 10 horns you saw, and the beast, will hate the prostitute. They will make her desolate and naked, devour her flesh, and burn her up with fire. For God has put it into their hearts to carry out His plan by having one purpose, and to give their kingdom to the beast until God's words are accomplished. And the woman you saw is the great city that has an empire over the kings of the earth."



posted on Dec, 19 2009 @ 02:01 AM
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They've been making NYC disaster movies since flickery picture lanterns were invented. King Kong's perhaps the greatest example, but Orson Welles became notorious for the panic he caused a few years later with his "War of The Worlds" radio broadcast too.

People like to be scared & will pay top dollar for the privilege. If anything, the only de-sensitising going on here is that many people now couldn't give a toss about NYC's fate in any movie, it's just the same old tired scripts and unsympathetic characterisation re-hashed time and time again.

They're just movies, if you don't like them don't go see them, simple as.

ROAR !! Be amazed and pay homage to The Mighty Kong !




posted on Dec, 19 2009 @ 02:28 AM
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I don't know how to upload photo's so here is a link to a rather good picture considering this discussion:

www.impawards.com...


Look, it's not like people only make disaster films to help evil governments with their plots. New York was targeted on 9/11 for the same reasons movie makers choose the city for their disaster flicks. It's a great big symbol of everything American.

And any modern human habitat has numbers and letters all over the place. There are only ten digits....numbers like 911 or 666 or whatever will turn up all the time.

Any symbolism used by these perpetrators of global crimes (such as 911) is only to throw people off the important aspects of the event. While everyone is cr#pping on about the symbols and getting nowhere, the criminals are escaping out the back door. See, they got away while we were just talking...



posted on Dec, 19 2009 @ 02:36 AM
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Nah, those are all just for deflection. I think the next false flag will be in Vancouver, Canada during the 2010 Olympics.

Think of it..... The whole world will be watching.

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