Originally posted by Happyfeet
OP, if you decide to move to the desert, would it be possible to allow a few of us to make provisions to hunker down there if we pay for our own
When I do get relocated out there, if someone was serious about wanting to also make the move, even if that person was a stranger to me I would have
to at least try
to help them.
Please make sure you pay attention to what some of the people in this thread are saying though, because it is a very serious decision to make.
I have been reading online for months now learning how to build and live in the desert and I am still hesitant to move there, especially to a rural or
country area like I plan to.
Something as simple as your car breaking down can cost you your life, but then again where I come from the same rules apply only you could freeze to
death instead of cooking. For me the MAIN reason why I am moving to the desert is out of concern for a family members health, everything else comes as
I am going to MAKE this work no matter what it takes, because of the fact that everything else is an afterthought to the health of someone I care
about. Your choices may be different. However I do honestly believe that it's a very good place to bug out to as well, anyone not prepared to cross
desert land will not live long enough to attack you and your family. For the ones who do they will most likely be in a weakened dehydrated state long
before they get to you, most likely the only people you would see are your neighbors, and chances are that unless you are both stupid you would work
together for survival. Afterall at least in theory you would both want to live, and see your families live, it would be in your best interest.
I was probably a little vague last time I was a little pressed for time.
I plan to build a passive solar earth sheltered home, which built correctly will actually have less dust inside than a house that is not in the
desert. I plan to have an air filtration system for obvious medical reasons to make sure the air quality is good. This could also be a total myth
(maybe someone here can shed some light on it) but I also read that an underground home creates a negative ionization field which does multiple things
to improve health, but I also read that the reasons for this aren't yet fully understood, which makes me cautious.
I intend to make everything as energy efficient as possible, use multiple solar collection methods from photovoltaic panels to thermal mass to solar
hot water etc. I have no problem building a small greenhouse and bringing in good soil, building large water collection systems etc. Just the passive
solar building techniques I have learned will reduce heating/cooling costs by 60-90% depending on exactly which methods I use, building an earth
sheltered home reduces those costs even more. Combined with lots of other things like "earth tubes" just as one example, can all help to reduce
heating cooling costs. I don't have the money to do it all at once but it will fall into place over time.
I have a good start at figuring most of this out, fully understand the hardships related to living in the desert and am willing to do all of this if
it means a better quality of life for my family member.
I also have heard that in the northern parts of Arizona and New Mexico there is actually some good hunting, it's a different type of deer than we
have here in the north, slightly smaller but rather abundant from what I have read.
I'm just hoping to find an ATS member who knows the area around New Mexico and may know for example that in "city a" there are almost always lots
of jobs because it's a retirement community and/or family area with lots of shopping etc.
Or another example would be if someone happened to know that there was an area with lots of cheap land an hour or two drive from a good sized city
Another good example: stay away from the nuclear waste dump in "city b"
Just hoping that anyone with knowledge of the area would hopefully share that information.
Like the advice about having a hard time growing tomatoes at higher altitudes, is worth it's weight in gold, thank you for telling me that.
Just a question though is it because of frost at night at higher altitudes that's giving you a hard time? If not, do you know why? Have you tried
bringing in outside soil?
Originally posted by Doc Holiday
I don't recall exactly where this was, although it was not more than 100 miles one way or the other of meteor crator......but the sign I was reading
while relieving myself "reality sign" was something crazy like $100-250 per acre, depending on amount purchased and area desired.
Information like that is priceless to me at a time like this, thank you very much and please guys keep it coming. Posting some information may not
seem like a major thing but it is a HUGE help to me in my situation. If I can find a place like that only an hour or two from a good sized city I'm
in business, and you just helped to improve the quality of life for someone.