Originally posted by bargoose
The FALSE PROPHET, who wrought miracles before the world. I often wonder if the false prophet is not a person, but the world of science and technology, seducing everyone with the latest tech. Science telling us how the future will be, and that there is no god........False prophet.

False:
# not in accordance with the fact or reality or actuality; "gave false testimony under oath"; "false tales of bravery"
# arising from error; "a false assumption"; "a mistaken view of the situation"
# erroneous and usually accidental; "a false start"; "a false alarm"
# deliberately deceptive; "false pretenses"
# delusive: inappropriate to reality or facts; "delusive faith in a wonder drug"; "delusive expectations"; "false hopes"
# fake: not genuine or real; being an imitation of the genuine article; "it isn't fake anything; it's real synthetic fur"; "faux pearls"; "false teeth"; "decorated with imitation palm leaves"; "a purse of simulated alligator hide"

Prophet:
# an authoritative person who divines the future
# someone who speaks by divine inspiration; someone who is an interpreter of the will of God

People who witness to things that they haven't witnessed are "FALSE", as they are not in accordance with Fact or Reality.

Have you EVER IN YOU LIFE seen someone magically healed without some sort of Tech or Science involved? I'm talking bible miracles, like touching someones eyes who is blind and they can see, without any surgery? Or walk, or have a withered limb become whole in front of you? Have you ever seen someone walk on water, or break one piece of bread and have it feed 5000?

If your answer is no, Guess who the false prophet is?

I don't know if anyone mentioned...

The bible never says anything about the end of the world...

Armageddon is the end of an AGE... A new beginning.

The Rapture is more of a purification process, afterward 1000 years of peace.

I would like to help clear the air and explain a little about the things
you have discussed on this thread. You can go along with what I
say or not, it has to do with what you have been taught and raised
with. Besides, this forum is filled with believers and non-believers,
so pick your side of the fence. I happen to be a Christian that studies
the Bible quite a bit, but I am not completely knowledgeable about all
of it by any means.

First of all, the 7 year tribulation period that contains the 7 seals,
7 trumpets and 7 bowls or vials, will not happen until after the Rapture
has occurred. The first half of the Tribulation period, or 3 1/2 years,
someone will sign a peace treaty between Israel and the rest of the
world. This will be the Anti-Christ. Halfway into the Tribulation period,
the Anti-Christ will break that treaty and all hell will break loose on this
planet with the 7 trumpets and 7 bowls. There will be no doubt as to
who the Anti-Christ is at that time.

The people who have died and are in their graves who believed in Jesus
and accepted Him as their Savior, AND the true believers who are still
alive on the Earth at the time of the Rapture, will ascend into Heaven with Christ.
These people are referred to as the "Church" or the "Saints".

There will be a lot of people on the Earth who will be left behind after the
Rapture. Millions of people who were unbelievers or undecided will decide
to accept Christ as their Savior at that time. They will be thinking,
"Hey, this Rapture thing really happened, it's for real and I was left behind
and I now need to finally accept Christ as my ticket to Heaven". During this
horrific time on Earth, with all of the terrible things going on here, millions
of people will decide to be followers of Christ. They will decide that in no
way shape or form will they take the mark of the beast (Anti-Christ). The
beast will kill these people by the millions. They are what is referred to as
the "Martyrs". They will martyr themselves so they can have an eternity in
Heaven with Christ. When they are killed, they will immediately ascend into Heaven with Christ. At one point of time, almost all of the people who
have accepted Christ will be gone from the earth and only those who have taken the mark of the beast will be left. There will obviously be some
Christians who will somehow survive through all of the terror going on,
and won't be martyrs. But remember, no one will be able to sell or buy
anything, not even food during the tribulation without the mark of the beast. And most importantly, once a person has accepted the mark, it is
totally irreversible. Once you have decided to follow the beast just so you can be able to buy food, it is too late. You cannot at that time accept Christ
and expect to be saved. It clearly states in the Bible that once you do that,
you are doomed for an eternity in Hell. There are only two eternities. One
is in Heaven and the other is in Hell. Seems to me a fairly simple choice to
make.

When we hear of people talking about the 144,000,it means this. There are
12 tribes of Israel. There will be 12,000 from each tribe totalling 144,000,
who will be Evangelists ON EARTH during the Tribulation period. They will
go to all parts of the earth and teach the word of God and try to convince
people to change their ways and accept Christ. These are actually Jews who have also accepted Christ and are now teaching to the world what
they have accepted, and that is, Christ is the only way to get into Heaven.
Many if not all of these will eventually be martyred with the rest of the
people who have changed their ways and haven't taken the mark of the
beast. I hope I have explained a few things that might be unclear to those
who are interested in what the Bible says about these endtime things, for
it is all there for anyone to read. I am not trying to shove my beliefs and interests down anyone's throat. Not at all. This is my belief

Originally posted by endtimer
When we hear of people talking about the 144,000,it means this. There are
12 tribes of Israel. There will be 12,000 from each tribe totalling 144,000,
who will be Evangelists ON EARTH during the Tribulation period.

Well, if you actually take a look at Revelation, rather than having somebody paraphrase it for you, those 144,000 are very clearly and specifically said to all be JEWISH MALE VIRGINS. Not just random evangelists.

So unless you're a Jewish male virgin, it doesn't apply to you.

Blue shift,
Yes, you are absolutely right in what you said. They will be
virgin Jewish men who have somehow not submitted to the flesh.
They will not be evangelists just picked out at random. I did state
in my post that I don't claim to know the Bible inside out. And I
probably wasn't even paraphrasing. I was merely stating my beliefs.

Peace to you and God bless you.

I don't think its the end of times, but time to get along and work together. I am sure that is God's mantra for the Bible. It's real simple. Be a good person, one that your mother, father, children, neighbors, community, friends, etc... would be proud of. This creates productivity and stability in society.

first

give me ONE sign religion is real

thanks

Its been a while since I posted this.

Bad weather, new weather patterns, more earthquakes etc.

Anyone more "thinking I may be onto something" here ?

S

Thanks for the debate so far.
love this place.

Originally posted by shauny

Bad weather, new weather patterns,

And where is the description, in Revelation ch6, of bad weather and new weather patterns? If we're going to look for the various signs in this passage, why not stick more closely to what the chapter actually describes?

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Originally posted by Faiol
first

give me ONE sign religion is real

thanks

God isn't a "religion" - God is God - He has nothing to
do with "religion". Mankind is who created all of these "religions".

So no, I guess I can't give you any proof that "religion" is "real".

Originally posted by nomorecruelty

The Bible actually gives us three "generation" time frames. The 40, the 70 and the 120.

I would really be interested to reading the Chapter and verse for a generation equaling 120 years... Thanks in advance...


Regarding the video's... there are several and I do mean several that are saying the EXACT same thing... That has me worried, perhaps needlessly, seeing how everyone's getting their information from the same source... However, it almost feels like a setup. Saying something long enough to enough people and it becomes true type of thing. I have checked their quotes within the Bible and cross checked their facts, and they are accurate, so perhaps I see something that aint there... but I've never seen a setup like this one before. Well that's not true, I've just never seen this kind of a setup outside of a government Op before.


--Charles Marcello


love your avatar btw... classic!