* First Seal - Religious Conquest/False Prophets
* Second Seal - Conflict War, Red horse
* Third Seal - Famine & Drought, Black Horse
* Fourth Seal - Death, green or pale horse
* Fifth Seal - Vision of martyrdom or martyrs
* Sixth Seal - Cosmic Disturbances or Heavenly Signs and the marking of the 144,000
* Seventh Seal - Prelude To the 7 Trumpets of 7 Angels & the Final Judgement



Let’s go over them, 1 at a time, and see, between us, if we can really see if we are indeed entering "the end of days"

1.
False Prophet - I have been studying this for a while, and we were all told in various religious texts that a "false Prophet" the world would love, would appear in the final days.
Barack Obama ? The world does love him, could he be number 1 ? Thoughts please.

2.
Conflict War - No argument here, it’s happening, and it’s about to get worse.

3.
Famine & Drought - Again, it’s happening, moving on..........

4.
Death - It’s everywhere. Between war and virus's, (Swine Flu being the latest 1)...again, moving on.

5.
Vision of martyrdom or martyrs - I don’t get this one. Anyone ?

6.
Cosmic Disturbances - Planet x, 2012, nibiru, again very suggestive ?

7.
Prelude To The 7 Trumpets of 7 Angels & The Final Judgement - Armageddon . We can argue all day, all off the above are suggestive to this.


I hope I have not upset anyone here.
I am not a religious person in the sense of going to church, but I am spiritual, and believe in god on my terms. I try to stick to the 10 commandments, am good to people, and am a decent person.

Reading these 7 signs. It becomes very apparent, that we are indeed on the threshold of the end of the world.

Rumour and stupidity apart, the facts are STUNNINGLY right in front of us.

Thoughts please.



[edit on 18/12/2009 by shauny]

About twenty years ago I was on a school field trip on a day when some religious group had foretold Jesus was going to reappear. No one took it seriously, but all the media hype leading up to the event had it in the back of my head.

In my hometown, which is a tourist town, there was an outdoor drama about the Bible. As my school bus drove past, I happened to glance out the window.....and saw JESUS!

He was walking through a parking lot smoking a cigarette. Gave me quite a start, Im telling you.

I always think of that event whenever I read these types of posts.

I'm not trying to offend or attack you, please understand. But every single one of the signs you mentioned have been ongoing for centures, if not millenia.

There have always been wars, death, disease, cosmic disturbances, and charasmatic leaders. To say its worse at this moment in time is simply perspective.

Perhaps it is the end of the worls as we know it, perhaps not. What's important, though, is not that we live life fearing the end or worrying about possibilities. Instead, we should live life with laughter, joyous hearts, and chocolate.

That's just my opinion, and I hope it didn't come across as an attack.

Best wishes!

There has been no marking of the 144000 elect.

Without a doubt we are in the mix, but not very far along. Things will get much worse.

I think alot of these things are very vague.
Psychics and Seers, that actually have no paranormal influence or talent, often leave predictions vague. Your brain will automatically think of the things that it relates to, and forget the things that seemed irrelevant.

Saying that war will be prevalent, is an easy one. War has been a part/threat of every generation to walk this planet. Whether large in scale, or local.
The same with death, martydom, famines.
Even false prophets. Many grace The Bible itself. People thinking that they are the way, the savior, is not a new trend.

An interesting question: When the prophesies mention "the world", do they mean the middle east exclusively?
That was the known world at the time. While they traveled, they never made it to say, Canada.

This silliness has continued its tradition for over 2000 years.

I was wondering.... if you had never heard of the bible and didn't know of this story of the impending unpleasantness for mankind... would you be expecting it the way you are now, looking for the "signs", warning others about it....?

Let me see if i can find the text but, before the seals are broken certain world events must come into play. One of which is Israel becoming a country for the second time (1967). So it has begun but does it take 7,70,700 years for all to be to be fulfilled we dont know. Rome must also fall and Before the end of times there will be a one world government for example......que hysteria So none of the above signs have happened in a biblical text form yet.

Great topic though

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That is just a list of 7 things that are very vauge at best. The apocalypse is kind of like UFO disclosure it is always comming soon. People have been saying that the apocalypse was comming since it was written.

Yes even in the horror movies they always begin with "When the Jews return to Zion..."
So that's the very FIRST real sign I take it.

Just remember Revelation must be pieced together and compared to other books and verses on the last days. It's not chronological in all parts.

Originally posted by shauny




5.
Vision of martyrdom or martyrs - I don’t get this one. Anyone ?




[edit on 18/12/2009 by shauny]

NWO- Councering the world

I am anti-religious and I may be wrong, but I believe the Martyrs are the chosen 2 who will die and be reborn as per jesus. It is seen as a sign of the powers of the anti-christ as his/her miracle brings them back from the dead. (Mortal head wounds if I remember right?)

Please feel free to ammend, destroy and generally have a laugh if Im more than 2 miles off with this comment.


Respects