The Wool Is About To Be Lifted!, page 1
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reply posted on 17-12-2009 @ 10:31 PM by redoubt
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The Wool Is About To Be Lifted!


I really love your optimism... seriously!

But like I said in that other thread... I don't think there is enough savior in Obama (or anyone alive today) to bring these two nations to the peace table until sometime after a good number of people have died on both sides and... elsewhere unfortunately.

Here's hoping your gloriously cynical prophesy comes true



reply posted on 17-12-2009 @ 11:09 PM by dolphinfan
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I could not disagree more. Nobody has the stones to deal with Iran but Israel. They will not do anything because we clearly can't help them now that we are in two wars already, despite the fact that Iraq is winding down. Iran will continue to push the envelope and the rest of the world will look to Obama to step in and guess what, he won't. Oh, he'll talk about sanctions, probably go to he UN and request them from the international community, such as it is. Everyone will nod their heads, go back home and violate those sanctions. Why? Because there is nothing he can do. He does not have the support of the country to enter yet another war. Iran knows it and they will develop full nuclear capability, inclusive of the ballistic weapons to carry them while Israel looks on wishing the US was not in a quagmire in Afganistan and that there was a President of the US who had a reasonable chance of getting popular support for a defensive act. The only thing that Obama has even the slightest grasp of is the left and he is losing them by his policy on Afganistan and his willingness to drop the single payer option in health care (underlined with his inability to get anything out of the climate summit). He is dead man walking. His presidency is over in terms of getting anything done and Israel will have to suck it up. Syria came out yesterday and said they would support Iran in a conflict. Look at the map and that tells you that with Lebanon that gives Israel a three front war.

We will have a nuclear Iran. In 20 years in the history books, it will not be scene as the fault of Obama to stop this from getting to a choke point. That blame will go to Clinton and Bush. He will get the blame for blowing his popularity so quickly so as not to be able to do anything about it when it became necessary to do something.

Who's loving this? Russia and China. This is a 20 year failure of US foreign policy comming home to roost


reply posted on 18-12-2009 @ 03:08 AM by Chett
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Nice story but you miss one important detail. Obama doesn't care if he has popular support or not. It doesn't seem like any of the American elected officials do.
In fact that is a very scary thing, when the gov. is no longer afraid of the people the people better be afraid of the gov.
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