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US won't stop Israeli strike on Iran: Obama

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posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 11:05 AM
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Originally posted by SLAYER69

Originally posted by ressiv
okay so iran seemed to have attacked an oilfield in irak...

here we go! :-(


I'd hardly call a dozen or so "Guards" temporarily taking control of a defunct oil facility an attack. still, Seems foolish to do so.


To me, it sounds like it's more than "a dozen or so Guards". Sounds like they mean to stay for a while. Here's a snip from the article that I found.
"The Iranian troops were digging in last night almost 24 hours after the incursion was launched. "They positioned tanks around it and dug trenches," General Zafer Nazmi, the head of the Border Police in Basra said. "They are still there, they raised the flag."
www.telegraph.co.uk...

You dig in and position tanks for a temporary lemonade stand. You do so because you mean business.




posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 11:15 AM
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Talk about your misleading headline "Obama won't stop Israeli Strike".

When of course what he actually said was the US CAN'T stop an Israeli strike.

It'll never happen - if only because the objectives are practically impossible to destroy with air strikes.



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 11:23 AM
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reply to post by herky187
 


The cheeky gits, I can't believe they would do this, what are the Iranians thinking?

Muppets!



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 11:26 AM
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They have an ace up their sleeve.............question is just what is it? The Iranians might be crazy..........but that doesn't mean they are stupid. Some of the most insane craziest dictators in the world were intelligent, cunning, and resourceful. While we are busy hiding behind predator drones the real enemy is making incursions into a country we just spent thousands of lives worth of blood, sweat and tears......."liberating". The Iraqi military with the support of the US military should have bombed these brazen Iranians back into the stone age.

I mean my god.............what the hell would the US military do if a foreign army pulled something like this on US soil? Talk to them? LMAO!



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 11:32 AM
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Originally posted by herky187

Originally posted by SLAYER69

Originally posted by ressiv
okay so iran seemed to have attacked an oilfield in irak...

here we go! :-(


I'd hardly call a dozen or so "Guards" temporarily taking control of a defunct oil facility an attack. still, Seems foolish to do so.


To me, it sounds like it's more than "a dozen or so Guards". Sounds like they mean to stay for a while. Here's a snip from the article that I found.
"The Iranian troops were digging in last night almost 24 hours after the incursion was launched. "They positioned tanks around it and dug trenches," General Zafer Nazmi, the head of the Border Police in Basra said. "They are still there, they raised the flag."
www.telegraph.co.uk...

You dig in and position tanks for a temporary lemonade stand. You do so because you mean business.


That's not a good move... since it would be one of those moment the opposition can say, look they really are the bad guys..

*shrugs shoulders* if they want war, they'll get their way, they always do..

**they being the elite on all sides



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 11:33 AM
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Iran is a good country, when Iraq attacked Iran with american chemical weapons and when Iraq Killed hunreds of thousands of Iranian soldiers then Iran attacks back, how the hell can Iran be wrong.

Now America is the biggest peadophile ring, child killing, woman raping, war mongoring scumbags in the world it pisses me off hearing fat Americans calling for war in a country where they can not even name the countrys that surrond it. Now come on people EVERY DAY children are being killed by America wheather by an American or by proxy of america.

America will never bring peace to the world and it is crazy to think that. America can't even have peace in their own country, where rape and violence against women is worse than any muslim country. The children of america are #ed up and are brainwashed to the max.

I hate bullys and i hate hypercrites even more, and thats why i don't like the majority of americans. America how can you think that the world would want to be like you, a load of fat, evil, lazy, ignorant, stupid, and the worst thing, the abusing of women and children.

I think the world needs to liberate the american people from this dictatorship and bomb the # out of them. Well if that is how you freed Iraq then that is how you will be freed.



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by Magpie82n
Iran is a good country, when Iraq attacked Iran with american chemical weapons and when Iraq Killed hunreds of thousands of Iranian soldiers then Iran attacks back, how the hell can Iran be wrong.


I love how everybody always leaves out the other countries who supplied Iraq with Chemical weapons and solely blames the US.

Chemical weapons suppliers
# United States of America
# Britain
# France
# China
# Netherlands
# Belgium
# Spain
Source



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 11:40 AM
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Originally posted by Common Good
More stuff to try to get us scared over.
YAWN.
When are the asteroids coming?



Give em a minute they are attracted to negative energy. The more negative energy the faster they will come.



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 11:49 AM
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Originally posted by SLAYER69

Originally posted by Magpie82n
Iran is a good country, when Iraq attacked Iran with american chemical weapons and when Iraq Killed hunreds of thousands of Iranian soldiers then Iran attacks back, how the hell can Iran be wrong.


I love how everybody always leaves out the other countries who supplied Iraq with Chemical weapons and solely blames the US.

Chemical weapons suppliers
# United States of America
# Britain
# France
# China
# Netherlands
# Belgium
# Spain
Source



Because America pushed Iraq to attack Iran or have you forgot that part of history, yes all these countries did you are right so they should be brought to justice but these countries are not going around the world saying you eather with us or your dead. Trust me mate America is the bottom of the barrel when in comes to morals.

But thanks for your reply and your insight on this issue and should know that Iran is 100% in the right.

Cool



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by Magpie82n
Iran is a good country, when Iraq attacked Iran with american chemical weapons and when Iraq Killed hunreds of thousands of Iranian soldiers then Iran attacks back, how the hell can Iran be wrong.

Now America is the biggest peadophile ring, child killing, woman raping, war mongoring scumbags in the world it pisses me off hearing fat Americans calling for war in a country where they can not even name the countrys that surrond it. Now come on people EVERY DAY children are being killed by America wheather by an American or by proxy of america.

America will never bring peace to the world and it is crazy to think that. America can't even have peace in their own country, where rape and violence against women is worse than any muslim country. The children of america are #ed up and are brainwashed to the max.

I hate bullys and i hate hypercrites even more, and thats why i don't like the majority of americans. America how can you think that the world would want to be like you, a load of fat, evil, lazy, ignorant, stupid, and the worst thing, the abusing of women and children.

I think the world needs to liberate the american people from this dictatorship and bomb the # out of them. Well if that is how you freed Iraq then that is how you will be freed.




How much of your brain did you use to write that?

Anyway, maybe we are seeding out these areas of the world, to be able to advance as a world. I mean realistically if you look, these countries would be the ones to not go along with everyone else. Maybe that's why the focus is on them.

Some countries of that region seem to have everyone on pins and needles when it comes to trust. We don't know what they are going to do day in and day out. The world powers around that region are very nervous about what these particular countries get their hands on. I would be as well if I lived next door.

The countries under fire normally are the ones who just haven't caught up with the rest of the world, and they don't want to.



[edit on 18-12-2009 by OpenYourHead]



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 12:04 PM
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Well i only used a little bit of my brain it's called memory and you should use it once in a while, now you bumb fool, you are of course one of those ignorant ones who are only on this site becaue of UFO's.

American is the epicentre of all that is wrong with the world, and that is just the facts, now it was the British,French and the spanish before the USA.
Now it is only the USA and Israel that threatens the world and it is now on a path to bring the world in to ww3, don't you think it's funny America has been in a war every decade since ww2. The USA is as worse that Nazi germany, because people finally see through their bull #, but the USA has fooled the world and can get away with genocide. That is the fact, there is no other fact apart from that. The American regime are no different than hitler and the nazi party.



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 12:11 PM
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When America (If America) invades Iran, that will be World War III.

Reason being, China and Russia are Iranian oil clients.

If USA invades Iran, that is basically like USA invading China and Russia, and that says it all.

If you ever hear that America invades Iran, Saudi Arabia, or Nigeria then pack your bags and run to the hills! (Honest, whistle blower spilled the beans).



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 12:16 PM
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Magpie what you are saying isn't entirely wrong, but nobody will grasp your points with that tone.

America is evil, or is it?
The evils in america are the elected officials that represent less than 1% of the country.

There are plenty of americans that are fully against the funding of Israel so it can continue it's genocide and apartheid on palestine, war on lebanon or iran and maybe soon syria.

Americans give alot in charity and donations to the world, ALOT.

Read this, it's a song, the 3rd verse from a song called glory.
Study it's words please.

And You Gotta Respect the Position In Which Your Playing
Never Let Your Heart Reflect The Conditions In Which You're Staying
Even If Its Dark, And The Temperature Is The Same As Winters In The Ukraine
The Appendages Is In Chains
Have Forgiveness From The Start
Keep Maliciousness Restrained
Be Smart
Never indiscriminate In Your Aim
Cause Its Innocent Witnesses Oblivious To The Things To Come
The Ones The Hypnotists Keep Entertained
And You Cant Arc
Have Some Resilience In Your Frames
Stay Resistant And Committed To What Your Saying Cause'
They Could Flip It The Minute That You Refrain

Read The Book And The Lines And Literature In Between
You Gotta Be Educated When Going Against The Grain
Pay Attention, They Illegitimate In They Claims
They Assisted In The Killings And Pillaging In Addition To The Addiction
Sh1t Is Much Bigger Than Just Complains But...

Hope that helps



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 12:18 PM
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Originally posted by Magpie82n
reply to post by OpenYourHead
 



Well i only used a little bit of my brain it's called memory and you should use it once in a while, now you bumb fool, you are of course one of those ignorant ones who are only on this site becaue of UFO's.


Please keep your rages and personal threats out of here. You bring this type of attention to yourself by the tone of which you post. It's clearly illogical and you can't expect to get a rational response according to some of the posts you have made.


[edit on 18-12-2009 by OpenYourHead]



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 12:21 PM
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well lets jog your memory a little shall we...

January 1975 Iran sends 2 regiments into KDP-controlled areas of Iraq; war averted through Turkish, then Algerian, mediation.

March 6, 1975 Algiers accord - Iraq and Iran agree to first: carry out a final delineation of their land boundaries in accordance with the Constantinople Protocol of 1913 and the Proceedings of the Border Delimitation Commission of 1914. and to demarcate their river boundaries according to the thalweg (median river course) line. It was understood from this by Iraq that Iran would withdraw from certain border territories.

June 13, 1975 Iraq and Iran sign an agreement regulating their borders and water rights based on the Algiers accord.

Sept , 1980 Start of Iraq-Iran war - Iraq invades Iran after alleged Iranian artillery bombardment on Khonqin & Mandali (4 September), Iraqi abrogation of 1975 treaty ( 17Sept); Iraq quickly captures Khoramshahr (10 November) & Abadan. Both attack each others' oil facilities.

April 12, 1982 Under strong Iranian counterattack, despite flow of arms from SU & France & money from GCC to Iraq, Saddam Hussein offers to withdraw from Iran in order to end the conflict. Iran makes peace conditional on payment of reparations; and launches major offensive in the south ( from 29Apr ); but fails in bid in to take Basra (Jul) & Mandali (Oct).

February 1984 Iran & Iraq shell each others' cities; UN-mediated agreement to cease, with UN observers posted in Baghdad & Tehran to monitor (from 12Jun). Meanwhile, Iran captures Iraq's oil-rich Majnun islands. Iraq turns to attacking Kharg Island oil terminal & Iranian ships in the Gulf, using French-purchased Exocet missiles (27Mar). Iran retaliates with strikes on Saudi & Kuwaiti ships (13May). UN condemns the shipping war (1Jun); Saudi shoots down an Iranian jet fighter, allegedly in its airspace (5Jun).

March 1985 Iraq begins bombing Ahvaz & Bushahr; Iran responds with missiles on Baghdad, and then Iranian troops cross Tigris, closing Basra-Baghdad road (17Mar); unable to hold it, amd ceasefire arranged in the war of the cities (6 Apr).

Sept. 13, 1985 Iran received 508 US-made Tow missiles, as part of secret arms-for-hostages deal with US. 4000 more missiles authorised by Reagan on 17Jan86, supplied through Israel. US arrests 10 officials involved (22Apr86). The sales are finally revealed by al-Shira'a newspaper (Beirut) on 3Nov86, creating the international "Irangate" scandal.

Jan 17, 1986 4000 more missiles for Iran authorized by Reagan, supplied through Israel

Shall I go on or is my memory better than yours



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 12:25 PM
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, Let’s see, we abuse our women and children? don’t remember the last time I heard of an American mother or father strapping a bomb to their child’s chest and having them detonate it in another country with the intent to kill other women and children. I don’t remember seeing any reports of Americans stoning a man or women to death for adultery. It wasn’t Americans who were forcing young girls back into a burning building to die because they were not dressed properly to be seen in public. I can’t remember the last time our courts upheld a man’s right to marry a 10 yr old girl.

There is no place in the world today for the misogynistic , homophobic, xenophobic, intolerant, freedom hating, backward, theocratic, culture or religion espoused by Islamic radicals and their myrmidons such as yourself. IN America you have every right to spout the inane drivel of your post. Why don’t you try it in Iran!!!



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 12:27 PM
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My friend, don't fall for the hate of countries and governments. You and I both know that the problem is that concentrated corporate power is manipulating and controlling all governments. And, as you know, it is a global group that is behind the global corporations.

In Islam you have many global associations trying to openly control the Muslim world. Would you think that the other centers of religious or political influence of the world would be any different? Of course not. The only difference between the Islamic globalist agenda keepers and the Jewish or Christian or athiest globalists is the level of thier secrecy or organization that they maintain in their plotting and planning and manipulations.

The American people are not to blame, and neither are the Iranian people. War and politics are controlled by the few, not the many. It has, and always will, be this way. The propaganda and lies pervade all truths that we think that we know except God's truth.

The powers at be want to control the middle east oil supply, period. The middle east has valuable resources, and so, it will always be at war and under manipulation. The global elite want it all, it is just that America seems to be the major military arm of the globalists for now. One day that may change, but not until America changes. Then the globalists will use someone else's military forces to do their bidding.

Do you want to blame someone? Then blame the international bankers who operate private banks that people don't even know exist. Blame the corporate moguls, who manipulate as many governments as they can to operate their global business empires for ever increasing profits.

Are the people fat? Yes. Dumb? Obviously. But are they to blame? No. Not any more than any other common people from any other country are about what their governments do or don't do.

[edit on 18-12-2009 by Hot_Wings]



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 12:35 PM
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I fully understand what your saying and that song is great and i'll pass it on to others, but i can't stand people who are ignorant calling for war and in that process killing tens of thousands of people.

Now your gonna say how do i know there ignorant, well it's because there calling for war and at the same breath talk peace. War can never bring peace anywhere and never has. I fully know that the fast majority of Americans are aware of this and a good but they chooses to be silent and there not helping humanity. I just hope that the people calling for war will drowned out by the calling for peace.

All i think is that the people in America who are calling for peace should have there tin hats ready to go and fight, pratice what you preach, but no it will be the poor sons of bitches who have no money and no idea what the war is about and will die for nothing while some rich scumbag can feal powerfull. Like i said i hate bully's and hypercrites and that is how i see America, now i would have hated Nazi germany if i was around then, but that does not mean i hat all germans in the same way i don't hate all Americans but i hate what America is and that is a horrible and evil country and even the birth of America was created from the genocide of a nation of people and the ignorant people of America cellebrate that as it's something good IE Thanksgiving. Come on that should be a day of morning.

cool.



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 12:42 PM
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The people of America are not ignorant, we are just misinformed. Misleading and the outlandishly brainwashed media is the problem.

And comparing the people to Nazi Germany is horrendous this day and age, You should be ashamed!



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 12:48 PM
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You can't remember when Americans abused women and children, sorry but i think you must be rasict or ignorant because you can't even bring it to your self to look at all those Iraqi children killed and say hang on that's children being killed.

So yes America is a country of child killers, the biggest.

Somewhere in America, a woman is raped every 2 minutes, according to the U.S. Department of Justice.

Should America be invaded for this

or

Children are suffering from a hidden epidemic of child abuse and neglect. Over 3 million reports of child abuse are made every year in the United States; however, those reports can include multiple children. In 2007, approximately 5.8 million children were involved in an estimated 3.2 million child abuse reports and allegations.

Your country stinks and it is a disgrace that you have the cheek to say you liberating the women and children of Iraq and Afghanistan when your women and children are worse off.

Bloody hypercrites, i hate em and every one you peddles their bull#.








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